-- The Riddle of the Twin Brothers - Who Were, Are and Will Rule the World!

[Gleb Gamow]

"I'll say it again, human, your research on Bitcoin won't be complete unless you include Team Robert Mercer within. Including Vlad was a good choice. Can I have an apple or are you forever gonna treat me like your puppet?"

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/27/the-reclusive-hedge-fund-tycoon-behind-the-trump-presidency

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[hornetsnest]

so you have no skin in the game but a never ending amount of glee watching people lose money so you gain what exactly?

why are you here exactly?

And BTW, most people are not losing "money".  They're losing paper profits which is not quite the same socially and economically speaking.  That "money" will be transferred to others just like it was once transferred to those losing it.  

Just like stocks, it's a zero sum game.  

And the writing has been on the wall a long time - people chose to assume the risk so they have to take the loss with the same grace they boasted about their easy "moon" profits.

Most will lose all their BTC.  It's getting too complex and unstable already.  It's just a simple reality people need to face and diversify according to their risk tolerance.

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........whatever BTC about to go to 20K biatches

[Vlad2Vlad]

"I'll say it again, human, your research on Bitcoin won't be complete unless you include Team Robert Mercer within. Including Vlad was a good choice. Can I have an apple or are you forever gonna treat me like your puppet?"

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/27/the-reclusive-hedge-fund-tycoon-behind-the-trump-presidency

Hahaha.  No, you're not a puppet, you get an apple.

Interesting read.  This part stood out to me for some reason. 


He first met Trump in the eighties. (“People said he was just a clown,” Caddell said. “But I’ve learned that you should always pay attention to successful ‘clowns.’ ”) .

[Vlad2Vlad]

Can you explain more clearly please?Are you saying this hard fork AKA bitcoin unlimited will defeat bitcoin in hashing power and kill it off this way so people who hold BTC will have their value depleted this way and lose in the end?

I think exchanges will allocate 1:1 to BTC holders if the BU is listed as part of conditions for listing so this will not happen.


Are you recommending people diversify into other coins?Why?.. because if BU gets listed then they will surely lose out on 1:1 swap because they would not be holding BTC at this time of listing of BU.

Can you elaborate on exactly what is going to happen as this riddle could have many variables and in turn many answers to suit the actual result something like having many preconceived answers to suit all possible outcomes.

Actually it would be namecoin in my humble opinion that is the twin.

Namecoin is a different codebase than Bitcoin.  Not a twin.

It depends on your risk tolerance and how btc you have. 

You can hold your btc and you will get an equal amount on the BU chain.  I think most will do that.

There is a risk with this.  This hardfork isn't that well planned and numerous bugs have been found in the BU code already.  Plus there will probably be an attack on Bitcoin (core) by BU miners which could stall that chain and force another split to a new PoW algo.

If you add these two possibilities then there is a good probability of a massive panic and price crash.  It will be difficult for most to think clearly in such a scenario and if panic selling ensues it could get really ugly really fast.

So again, it depends on your situation and how much risk can you stomach. 

If I had say 1,000 btc I'd probably cash out 200 now to have a lot of cash to buy with.  And then wait on the 800 btc and double it to 1600 post split and hope there's no crash and it's easy to pic a winner.

If I had only a few btc I'd probably just wait and see cause my wife [hopefully] wouldn't leave me over such a small loss, in the event I were to make the wrong call after the split.

Personally, I think the worst case scenario is gonna happen, there are going to be bugs, Bitcoin (core version) will get attacked and they'll be forced to fork again to a new PoW algo thus splicing Bitcoin 3 times.  This would create mass confusion and the price would probably plummet at which point it would be hard to figure out what's what.

I think all hell is about to break loose.  I expected it to happen last summer which was why I kept saying:  it's gonna be a HOT summer.

Good luck!

[hornetsnest]

Thank you for explanation Vlad.

[wiked1]

The first crypto to release to the public with SegWit will be the big winner. It may not be Bitcoin, or even Litecoin. If a group were to take the Bitcoin (or Litecoin) source, make a new coin, with SegWit built-in from the group up, call it Bitcoin2, or Litecoin2, start a brand new block chain with it, that entity will likely create many millionaires. And since they are starting a new coin, they could drop any code that deals with backward compatibility issues.

[Vlad2Vlad]

The first crypto to release to the public with SegWit will be the big winner. It may not be Bitcoin, or even Litecoin. If a group were to take the Bitcoin (or Litecoin) source, make a new coin, with SegWit built-in from the group up, call it Bitcoin2, or Litecoin2, start a brand new block chain with it, that entity will likely create many millionaires. And since they are starting a new coin, they could drop any code that deals with backward compatibility issues.

I'm pretty sure a few coins have already updated to segwit.  I remember reading about it on Reddit a couple weeks ago.

I think it needs to be a high profile coin or at least one which has the marketing to raise awareness.

[Vlad2Vlad]

Dr. Wright and I warned everyone a year ago.  Don't start crying when those steganographic messages start happening, one by one. 

...Counter move @Dr_Wright!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H0K54hZnDMM

[kiklo]

The first crypto to release to the public with SegWit will be the big winner. It may not be Bitcoin, or even Litecoin. If a group were to take the Bitcoin (or Litecoin) source, make a new coin, with SegWit built-in from the group up, call it Bitcoin2, or Litecoin2, start a brand new block chain with it, that entity will likely create many millionaires. And since they are starting a new coin, they could drop any code that deals with backward compatibility issues.

I'm pretty sure a few coins have already updated to segwit.  I remember reading about it on Reddit a couple weeks ago.

I think it needs to be a high profile coin or at least one which has the marketing to raise awareness.

Groestlcoin was the 1st activated segwit with a hard fork, (No one seems to care.)

The others that allowed voting like vertcoin, the miners have not activated.

Woodcoin claims activation, but I not sure they are a real coin.  


 

FYI:
Blockstream is so desperate now, they are threatening to move BTC to a New PoW Algo. 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1835392.msg18273281#msg18273281

[Vlad2Vlad]

Groestlcoin was the 1st activated segwit with a hard fork, (No one seems to care.)

The others that allowed voting like vertcoin, the miners have not activated.

Woodcoin claims activation, but I not sure they are a real coin.  


 

FYI:
Blockstream is so desperate now, they are threatening to move BTC to a New PoW Algo. 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1835392.msg18273281#msg18273281

They don't have a choice unless they compromise and they won't. 

And they won't do it unless they're attacked first so we'll get 3 chains, not two.  Core says BU will be a premined alt so what will that make their fork which will also have a new PoW algo?

If that's the case we'll have 2 alts and a dead chain.  So [technically] no more Bitcoin. 

That's gonna be interesting to watch unfold.

[Vlad2Vlad]

Leakers gotta leak!

Reuters et al are still trying to dig up info on Dr. Wright. 

[Vlad2Vlad]

Good video with Dr. Wright from 2014 which I've never seen before.  Very informative. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PtAqNpEm7w

[PoolMinor]

Good video with Dr. Wright from 2014 which I've never seen before.  Very informative.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PtAqNpEm7w

Those other people in the video just cannot grasp what is being said at all. They only wait to speak to what they already think they know, while disregarding any new information. It reminds me of this forum very much.

Penvt Fgrira Jevtug vf Fngbfuv Anxnzbgb

[Gleb Gamow]

Good video with Dr. Wright from 2014 which I've never seen before.  Very informative. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PtAqNpEm7w

Those other people in the video just cannot grasp what is being said at all. They only wait to speak to what they already think they know while disregarding any new information. It reminds me of this forum very much.

Penvt Fgrira Jevtug vf Fngbfuv Anxnzbgb

Oops, Satoshi did it again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0thnCDgRJfM&feature=youtu.be&t=266

[Vlad2Vlad]

Good video with Dr. Wright from 2014 which I've never seen before.  Very informative.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PtAqNpEm7w

Those other people in the video just cannot grasp what is being said at all. They only wait to speak to what they already think they know, while disregarding any new information. It reminds me of this forum very much.

Penvt Fgrira Jevtug vf Fngbfuv Anxnzbgb

Was that a jab at me?   

I totally agree, in fact that's exactly what I was telling Dr. Wright after I saw that video.

[Vlad2Vlad]

Blockstream/Core just got Rekt!

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Wangchun, Co-founder of F2Pool: "There is no malicious miners, only haughty developers."

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The split is a guarantee at this point!!!

[TheBitcoinDoco]

Good video with Dr. Wright from 2014 which I've never seen before.  Very informative.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PtAqNpEm7w

Those other people in the video just cannot grasp what is being said at all. They only wait to speak to what they already think they know, while disregarding any new information. It reminds me of this forum very much.

Penvt Fgrira Jevtug vf Fngbfuv Anxnzbgb

Was that a jab at me?  

I totally agree, in fact that's exactly what I was telling Dr. Wright after I saw that video.

Here is the second part which I didn't release because "They only wait to speak to what they already think they know". Craig's response to the brain wallet is about the only part worth listening to, and very Craig... has proven true.

https://vimeo.com/187434325

There was a table of Australian and national federal police at this event. They were quiet most of the conference and declined my invitation to be interviewed, would have loved to have heard what they had to say.

[Vlad2Vlad]

Here is the second part which I didn't release because "They only wait to speak to what they already think they know". Craig's response to the brain wallet is about the only part worth listening to, and very Craig... has proven true.

https://vimeo.com/187434325

There was a table of Australian and national federal police at this event. They were quiet most of the conference and declined my invitation to be interviewed, would have loved to have heard what they had to say.

Thanks.  Were you involved in the Bitcoin documentary?

[TheBitcoinDoco]

Here is the second part which I didn't release because "They only wait to speak to what they already think they know". Craig's response to the brain wallet is about the only part worth listening to, and very Craig... has proven true.

https://vimeo.com/187434325

There was a table of Australian and national federal police at this event. They were quiet most of the conference and declined my invitation to be interviewed, would have loved to have heard what they had to say.

Thanks.  Were you involved in the Bitcoin documentary?

Yes, it' s my project.

[55Domains]

So after some time reading this thread.... i have now hit the 100% confusion level.

Can anyone just sum it up and tell me which coin to buy and where... lol.