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To any who wonder where the original ANN thread went and why we have this one in its place, there is a very simple way to put it.
Bitcointalk threads are pretty much centralized. There is no means by which a thread is started, ended or controlled by consensus.
This new thread has a stronger consensus from the Ravencoin Project community members. The other one lost that consensus.
This speaks as to the more truly decentralized nature of the Ravencoin Project. There is no 'official Ravencoin' this or that. It is code that has been released into the wild to take root and to extend its shoots where it finds fertile ground.
It is NOT a potted plant and it is most certainly not a plastic plant.
I do not know exactly how or why the original ANN thread was deleted. Perhaps the BCT member who started it decided to do so. If that is the case, then I want express my thanks for that act.
Learn about Ravencoin, the manner in which it was released, the mindsets of those that initially conceived and coded it, the possibilities for this project that are not likely to be visible with just a cursory glance, and the spirit of the community that has formed around it in a grass roots manner.
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I think a lot of people want it both ways. Decentralized when it benefits them but regulated when it is to their advantage for it to be so.
The devs have publicly stated they control nothing but the code and will not change that without community backing or a few pre-planed upgrades. They are not interested or worried about exchanges in the least at this time.
There is no one with "authority" to do anything about anything which gives the community all the advantages of decentralization.
However, that does leave the door open to scams and people with selfish intent.
Exchanges will get hacked, pools will vanish without paying out, people will try and find glitches to make money off them, people will attack pools and the network. There is no central authority to whine to and "get the bad guys in trouble." We all have to use our best judgement where we mine and where we store our coins. There are no "cops" to call when we feel we have been wronged. It is what it is and is a big part of what decentralized truly means.
The person running this or the previous ANN is not an "official" of ravencoin. No one is an official. The guy running this thread could put in the first post that McDonalds is the official fast food of Ravencoin. Does that make it the official fast food? Nope, only if the community as a whole believes it to be so. And even then it could change in a week. It is only what the majority of people in the community believe it to be. Doing anything involves risk.
I was mining on 3eyed, getting payouts. When I noticed the payouts were late and the first response was posted on the ANN about the person that could fix it being out of town I moved my rigs to another pool. I had just a little under 300 coins showing on the pool site that have since vanished. I have not gotten a payout for them and at this point I do not expect to as it seems the total of the coins pool had gotten were split to those who kept mining. Do I think it is fair? Nope. Is there anything I can do that will change it now? Nope. That is life in crypto. Bad crap happens. It isnt the fault or in control of the devs or the coin itself that someone made a decision that had a negative impact on me. I have simply moved on and written it off as a loss that happens in crypto where there are no regulators to complain to. In fact I do not want there to be regulators to complain to.
Wait until one day if cryptobridge gets hacked, someone makes off with all the coins, and the exchange goes under. How many people are storing all their coins there and not in their wallet? How many will come here and whine and demand their coins back from an imaginary central figure? Guess what? Thats a risk you take keeping coins on an exchange and not in your secure wallet.
Guess my point is there are always bad actors around. The decision on who each of us trust with our mining hash and where we store our coins is ours to make. If you get burned by trusting the wrong entity that is on you. Approach everything as if people want to take your coins and make decisions accordingly and you will be much happier in the end. This goes for all coins not just Raven.
Bashing the coin and filling up 30+ pages of the thread with complaints does nothing but make the community look bad. Not to mention Brian just released a better AMD miner and I almost missed it not wanting to read through 10 pages of complaints.
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April 14, 2018, 04:35:57 PM |
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Hi everyone, I recently had a generous person donate a RX580 to me, and thus was able to give the AMD side some love by making some x16r optimizations for AMD. After around a week of work, I've made numerous optimizations to the x16r / x16s kernels, and with preliminary testing I'm getting around +10% over ace's sgminer, or around 7.5 MH/s on my RX580 (without much hardware tuning). People on the Discord server seem to have good results with it as well. As with Nevermore (which is for Nvidia cards), Avermore (for AMD) has a 1% devfee to support continued work on the miner. I look forward to hearing your feedback about this new release! Avermore releasesAvermore source codeGithub wiki pagesGetting Started guideTroubleshooting guideOptimizing Hashrate guideThank you for your work. I'm gonna try your miner.
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Hi everyone, I recently had a generous person donate a RX580 to me, and thus was able to give the AMD side some love by making some x16r optimizations for AMD. After around a week of work, I've made numerous optimizations to the x16r / x16s kernels, and with preliminary testing I'm getting around +10% over ace's sgminer, or around 7.5 MH/s on my RX580 (without much hardware tuning). People on the Discord server seem to have good results with it as well. As with Nevermore (which is for Nvidia cards), Avermore (for AMD) has a 1% devfee to support continued work on the miner. I look forward to hearing your feedback about this new release! Avermore releasesAvermore source codeGithub wiki pagesGetting Started guideTroubleshooting guideOptimizing Hashrate guideThis is working great for both x16r (Raven) and x16s (Pigeon) on RX560 GPU's. Tested mining on Cryptopool.party, Ravenminer.com and Blockcruncher.com pools.
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April 14, 2018, 06:54:58 PM |
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anyone has enemy 1.06 downlink?
If it exists, Enemy did not pin it in Discord.
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April 14, 2018, 07:10:35 PM |
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When will this coin get listed on a (at least) mid-size exchange? (something like cryptopia) It already has a bigger&more active community than many alts out there. Why are exchanges still ignoring this project? ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) I remember I asked a question about exchanges ignoring this coin. I guess I found the answer: they ask for things like an NDA and a legal opinion that a coin is not a security. Obviously no one is going to sign something like that.
"Ravencoin" will sign whatever papers "Bitcoin" signed which is zero. No one has any authority to sign anything or enter into any agreement for Ravencoin or on behalf of Ravencoin. So they are adding more and more centralized scams just because they have a "leader" and ignoring open-source projects like this because you know, it is open-source. No leader. No CEO. W E W. I wonder why are they still letting us to trade bitcoin pairs...
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April 14, 2018, 07:23:51 PM |
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SuperNova is having Payout issues:
"We are investingating issues in the backend. Your shares and hashrate are safe and we will fix things ASAP.
PPLNS payout disabled, round credit transactions are delayed"
Is any pool safe???
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April 14, 2018, 07:52:01 PM |
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SuperNova is having Payout issues:
"We are investingating issues in the backend. Your shares and hashrate are safe and we will fix things ASAP.
PPLNS payout disabled, round credit transactions are delayed"
Is any pool safe???
Can someone explain what is this mean? should i stop mining or i will get coins after they fix it?
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April 14, 2018, 08:05:08 PM |
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i have a same situation with supernova i have no aideia wotes ia go and on
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April 14, 2018, 08:15:40 PM |
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Maybe a stupid question, but I can't find any info. Does Ravenminer pool support worker names? I'd like to switch to it, but I have for computers for mining so if some od them goes offline, I'd like to know which one is it without having to connect to each one of them.
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April 14, 2018, 08:39:29 PM |
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The difficulty is continuing to go up. You're not going to keep getting the same gains. You should stick with one of the bigger pools. That's either Ravenminer or Suprnova. Personally, I try to not use Suprnova. I never get good hashrates there and I feel like I'm underpaid compared to other pools. Their reporting is shitty and sometimes doesn't update.
As far as I know in my short mining experience, difficulty goes up or down depending on number of miners present...I have seen significant drops in miner count when market revives or RVN price goes down and vice versa...and more often I have seen drop in revenue, but very seldom any noticeable increase when diff goes down...I think pools turn out to be biggest skimmers and there is no way to prove it ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ...I mean pools in general...
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April 14, 2018, 09:45:58 PM |
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SuperNova is having Payout issues:
"We are investingating issues in the backend. Your shares and hashrate are safe and we will fix things ASAP.
PPLNS payout disabled, round credit transactions are delayed"
Is any pool safe???
Can someone explain what is this mean? should i stop mining or i will get coins after they fix it? I've got my last auto payment from Suprnova ravencoin pool 6 min ago. No problem at all with payments or hashrate in the last 6 days for me. I've been mining at Suprnova for years without problems.
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April 14, 2018, 10:12:26 PM |
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The difficulty is continuing to go up. You're not going to keep getting the same gains. You should stick with one of the bigger pools. That's either Ravenminer or Suprnova. Personally, I try to not use Suprnova. I never get good hashrates there and I feel like I'm underpaid compared to other pools. Their reporting is shitty and sometimes doesn't update.
As far as I know in my short mining experience, difficulty goes up or down depending on number of miners present...I have seen significant drops in miner count when market revives or RVN price goes down and vice versa...and more often I have seen drop in revenue, but very seldom any noticeable increase when diff goes down...I think pools turn out to be biggest skimmers and there is no way to prove it ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ...I mean pools in general... With 11K+ workers and they are solving a blocks within minutes. They are distributing the same 5k block reward to more people. Suprnova is my goto for reliability - saying that now seems silly just after the pigeon found the announcement above :-) Block rewards : see times. More people same block rewards. If they get any faster they will have all the blocks ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) 169113 04/15/2018 09:49:09 anonymous 22905.2876 5000.00 114.39 169107 04/15/2018 09:44:42 anonymous 22905.2876 5000.00 87.69 169101 04/15/2018 09:41:23 anonymous 22905.2876 5000.00 2.14 169100 04/15/2018 09:41:05 maradonalopez 22905.2876 5000.00 521.74 169082 04/15/2018 09:21:27 anonymous 22905.2876 5000.00 130.94 It is so reliable it gets a bit boring (I need to check things) so I've found a pool that is a bit more fun I'm not going to mention it as I don't want to draw attention. I've even mashed together other peoples hard work and got my own miner going - I've been logging the connections and don't see any hidden dev fee's going out. ...except for one but that used my address and my user so not sure what that was all about. I'm no master coder so that got a bit hard.
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Ravencoin (RVN) Decentralised: RHE9Pys8aQ47G28PYhC2umaT7ouNvtpXkU Hanacoin (HANA) Centralised: HJzbjF8YUcETVB6K23o84aRY7wBirzJNrr Both can work
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April 14, 2018, 11:29:55 PM |
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SuperNova is having Payout issues:
"We are investingating issues in the backend. Your shares and hashrate are safe and we will fix things ASAP.
PPLNS payout disabled, round credit transactions are delayed"
Is any pool safe???
Can someone explain what is this mean? should i stop mining or i will get coins after they fix it? payouts going again
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Visit these links for more info on the people and parties behind ravencoin! Not as community centered as they'd have you guys believe! But thats ok, transparency is coming soon, and there's no reason it should be feared or FUDed! http://www.mediciventures.com/http://www.chainstonelabs.com/and the hourly paid community leaders/mods/admins from https://www.overstock.com/And the political arm of Ravencoin: https://www.fsp.org/More docs and a fun disclosure of the stuff going on behind the scenes coming soon. AMA that will include 3i info, the otc shutdown info, cryptobridge info, rubberchicken scamming bruce fenton doc, and lots more. Feel free to ask the community in discord! But they're mostly overstock employees and corporate/poltical friends, so don't worry if they end up getting weird. Remember these companies work for the community, not the other way around! Miss you RubberChicken, why'd you scam Bruce? JK. We can address that later! No reason to keep this stuff secret anymore! The cypherpunk manifesto clearly outlines the difference bewteen secrecy and privacy! Great coin, great devs, great community, but corporate controlling interest is very real. Be mindful going forward RVNfam, long live Ravencoin, long live miners! A lot of this was already known to some of us - I had hinted towards that in the other thread - but one thing that completely slipped by me: FSP the "political arm" of Ravencoin? Clear to explain that? Great question. Bruce Fenton himself is a free stater, libertarian. He moved to my state last november. The OTHER half of the planted community in Ravencoin are libertarian kids (FSP kids) from my state and beyond (hence their coordinated trolling efforts with the Overstock crew). Ravencoin was actually announced at the Free State Digital Assets Conference in December 2017, a Bruce Fenton/Chainstone lead event in New Hampshire, USA. I am not of any of these groups, so very simple (and legal, mind you) moves by me to keep these groups from holding power in the Ravencoin "community" are met with massive trolling/spin efforts. You may have already seen how disproportionate/ineffective their efforts are. But dont worry. The silent majority are true blockchain/Ravencoin fans! These people are just the most vocal, and aim to garner support by demonizing me and my efforts for the community at large (bad move, lol). Many have already turned over in their interest while never being truly informed of the attacks on me and special interest moves. I aim to change that! Well, already have ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Thanks for your question! The controllers of this project are removing and deactivating Discord links around the net and harassing the fine staff of Btctalk to get my account removed. They are scared. They are cowards. Good people of the crypto world. Why do they fear you? Shiggidy (also a planted Discord admin, alongside Linky, server owner) if not on the payroll and acting in the interest of the community as he promised, will rectify this. If not, consider this a further admission of guilt by all parties I mentioned above, and further proof of their fear of you, the larger crypto community. They fear you. They fear Anonymous acts. Call for transparency, as the controllers of Ravencoin use acts of secrecy and justify them as privacy. They don't have much time left, and they don't want you to see what they don't want you to see. Listen to yourself, not others. Ask questions, never stop. Make them let you into ALL of OUR community platforms (for THEY own NOTHING) or consider it a measure of secrecy and a continued admission of their guilt & proof of their nature as controllers. They want to get in front of their mistakes & missteps. That will never happen. I assure you They work for us. The community is not their secrecy shield. They will fix the links, or they admit guilt by not doing so. Carry on good people.
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a friend of mine wants to buy rvn. it will be there first crypto purchase and have no btc, just $$$. ...
... The, go to GDAX (CoinBase) to buy bitcoin with $$ https://www.gdax.com/trade/BTC-USD.. Just be informed that Coinbase holds the purchased crypto a week prior to releasing them to your account. If you buy with a debit card it goes through instant.
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April 15, 2018, 06:06:53 AM |
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Maybe a stupid question, but I can't find any info. Does Ravenminer pool support worker names? I'd like to switch to it, but I have for computers for mining so if some od them goes offline, I'd like to know which one is it without having to connect to each one of them.
Not possible to use worker names as far as I know. What I do is define a different difficulty for each rig with: -p d=1
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April 15, 2018, 06:13:56 AM |
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Maybe a stupid question, but I can't find any info. Does Ravenminer pool support worker names? I'd like to switch to it, but I have for computers for mining so if some od them goes offline, I'd like to know which one is it without having to connect to each one of them.
Not possible to use worker names as far as I know. What I do is define a different difficulty for each rig with: -p d=1 Actually, it is possible. Just got the answer on the Discord. Just enter -p WorkerName after the wallet address. I tried and it's working ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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April 15, 2018, 11:36:27 AM |
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Looking forward to stage 2 in this project ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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