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July 28, 2018, 09:42:24 PM |
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No what they are referring to is the network difficulty increases.
They ste currently swinging largely due to nicehash, and a few more exploitative raven miners.
This is the same thing that happened with Bcash when It forked. At high diff they disappear as profitability is low, then when whoever is left does the heavy lifting to bring the diff down, they all come back and collect as much as they can.
Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
The problem has become worse since being listed on profit switching pools and nicehash
That is, do you think that they are making a mistake or are they doing everything correctly considering the development of mining? In the first paragraph i fully agree with you.
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July 29, 2018, 01:31:57 AM |
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That is, do you think that they are making a mistake or are they doing everything correctly considering the development of mining? In the first paragraph i fully agree with you.
The fluctuation in network hashrate have little to do with the coin itself. The multi algo pools and nicehash see the opportunity to having most coins and algos available to draw in as many miners as possible. The fluctuations are mostly from miners who cash out and aren't holding any coins for the future, so they go where they can earn the most fiat equivalent at that moment.
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nur1labs
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July 29, 2018, 03:12:15 AM |
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That is, do you think that they are making a mistake or are they doing everything correctly considering the development of mining? In the first paragraph i fully agree with you.
The fluctuation in network hashrate have little to do with the coin itself. The multi algo pools and nicehash see the opportunity to having most coins and algos available to draw in as many miners as possible. The fluctuations are mostly from miners who cash out and aren't holding any coins for the future, so they go where they can earn the most fiat equivalent at that moment. well because multi mining them used second option algo in PoW. but they need re-configure diff i think. just do implemented LWMA2. there see them good like btcdark do.
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July 29, 2018, 12:51:52 PM |
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@Dagamus, you're totally missing the point. We talk about difficulty and retargeting.
I understand that. Hash rate was mentioned in the statement about fluctuation. How often does retargeting happen with RVN anyhow? It would be nice if it was adjusted as those on nicehash and other algo swappers are messing everything up for those of us sticking to a single pool. Looks like pickaxe is doing maintenance or something. All of mine are on my failover at cryptopool.party.
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nur1labs
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July 29, 2018, 01:52:37 PM |
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@Dagamus, you're totally missing the point. We talk about difficulty and retargeting.
I understand that. Hash rate was mentioned in the statement about fluctuation. How often does retargeting happen with RVN anyhow? It would be nice if it was adjusted as those on nicehash and other algo swappers are messing everything up for those of us sticking to a single pool. Looks like pickaxe is doing maintenance or something. All of mine are on my failover at cryptopool.party. they need rebuild algo or costumes so nice hash cannot attack. well that pay on crypto and something like blockchain sources.
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July 29, 2018, 02:55:18 PM |
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Yeah so now difficulty falls and hashrate skyrockets. This is stupid. This is how you mess up mining.
Nicehash has to be fought back somehow. DEEEEEVs help us out here. We're the ones backing you up 24/7.
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July 29, 2018, 04:15:11 PM |
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How often does retargeting happen with RVN anyhow? It would be nice if it was adjusted as those on nicehash and other algo swappers are messing everything up for those of us sticking to a single pool.
Only way is to set diff retargeting after every block, like ZCash do for example. Now is something like 2000 blocks (more or less few hundreds).
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July 29, 2018, 06:46:32 PM |
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How often does retargeting happen with RVN anyhow? It would be nice if it was adjusted as those on nicehash and other algo swappers are messing everything up for those of us sticking to a single pool.
Only way is to set diff retargeting after every block, like ZCash do for example. Now is something like 2000 blocks (more or less few hundreds). Now it's 2016 blocks.
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July 29, 2018, 06:56:06 PM |
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There was today chat in Discord group about this and developers would definitely do something about difficulty issue. It just need time, can't be done in few days...
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July 29, 2018, 06:58:26 PM |
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@Dagamus, you're totally missing the point. We talk about difficulty and retargeting.
I understand that. Hash rate was mentioned in the statement about fluctuation. How often does retargeting happen with RVN anyhow? It would be nice if it was adjusted as those on nicehash and other algo swappers are messing everything up for those of us sticking to a single pool. Looks like pickaxe is doing maintenance or something. All of mine are on my failover at cryptopool.party. they need rebuild algo or costumes so nice hash cannot attack. well that pay on crypto and something like blockchain sources. This sounds difficult, but it can be tried to get better results. So it's better to make something new to get a good guarantee it's very important. I am very supportive.
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July 29, 2018, 07:50:50 PM |
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Nicehash must die!!!
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July 29, 2018, 08:39:18 PM |
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My god 3.13TH going up
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JohnDoe3490
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July 29, 2018, 10:02:22 PM |
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New users Nd power users really want this coin badly then
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July 30, 2018, 02:26:15 AM |
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Diff is godlike
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nur1labs
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July 30, 2018, 02:55:53 AM |
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Diff is godlike
report to the ajust diff like lwma2 or constumes diff. and make like on blockchain if hashnumber > device_support block = enable else block = disable end if
device support[amd_support, nvidia_support];
like that
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July 30, 2018, 05:15:45 AM |
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New users Nd power users really want this coin badly then
Also we "old" miners won't mine this coin anymore. Nicehash destroys it completely... Please Devs. Do something, that nicehash isn't working on RVN!
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esprit577
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July 30, 2018, 05:22:58 AM |
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The fluctuations come from the algorithm itself. If you the algorithm is mostly fast components then your hash rate will be much higher than when you have a bunch of slow components to the algorithm.
Yes it changes every minute but you will have some periods of time where it is real high, real low, or something inbetween.
Maybe that's what makes the RVN algorithm strange, and it's always been the case, although it's been upgraded many times for mining tools, and if the value of RVN is enough to attract investment from ASIC, it may become more stable in the future.
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July 30, 2018, 06:29:39 AM |
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New users Nd power users really want this coin badly then
Also we "old" miners won't mine this coin anymore. Nicehash destroys it completely... Please Devs. Do something, that nicehash isn't working on RVN! There's no reason to make it unavailable to nicehash (don't know if it can be made unavailable), just make the difficulty adjust 4 times faster and all will be well. Going from 2016 block (2016 minutes aprox so every 33 hours idealy) to 504 (every 8 hours and the impact from nicehash will go away or at least be greatly reduced.
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July 30, 2018, 06:40:44 AM |
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Hy Jesser ,wen I start your miner ever new run.bat the page scramble very fast flick flick, same try for 2.2 2.3 2.5 2.6 really your miner was good 3 4 month ago, now can not get to work, any help
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pengi
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New users Nd power users really want this coin badly then
Also we "old" miners won't mine this coin anymore. Nicehash destroys it completely... Please Devs. Do something, that nicehash isn't working on RVN! There's no reason to make it unavailable to nicehash (don't know if it can be made unavailable), just make the difficulty adjust 4 times faster and all will be well. Going from 2016 block (2016 minutes aprox so every 33 hours idealy) to 504 (every 8 hours and the impact from nicehash will go away or at least be greatly reduced. It's the difficulty of finding blocks, which makes it harder. Yesterday the 2000 blocks were hit in about 13 hours, because with the lowered difficulty and increased hashrate ~3 blocks were found every minute. Last difficulty change when it was 23k, the average time per block was less than 0.5 blocks every minute, so those 2000 blocks took way longer then the 33 hours. Now the difficulty is 33k, meaning that we miners will spend 3 days finding all 2000 blocks within this difficulty round. Afterwards the diff drops again to sub 13k levels and nicehash will come and f*ck things up again in few hours. This is cancer and as you say the intervals between diff change needs to be adjusted (much shorter intervals), otherwise I am not wasting electricity on Raven anymore and I really like the coin which I am mining since march.
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