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April 15, 2013, 01:20:21 AM
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thanks.... Smiley
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April 15, 2013, 02:10:21 AM
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Reading the OP makes me think that BTC may be a catalyst for the IT industry to significantly up the security of various devices.

BTC for the win... again!
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April 15, 2013, 02:48:42 AM
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is mtgox reliable one?
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April 15, 2013, 03:54:49 AM
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Ugh. It was bound to happen. The irony of posting on the 'NEWB' board isn't lost upon me.

So, quick background. I'm a freelance finance journalist in Toronto and after a few days of lurking around, I decided to pull the trigger and purchase some BTC to go through the whole experience. Some friends in the office wanted some too--so we decided to go to LocalBitcoins.com and find someone willing to sell either live or via interac in Toronto. Counter party was user "Duckie" with a previous positive review. We texted back and forth--his number is +1 647 795 3222. Funds were accepted for 5 BTC and poof. A couple of hours later, a disconnected phone number and nothing, nada.

I have a header from the e-mail (his address is premiumbtc@gmail.com) he sent confirming receipt of funds and alleging transfer of BTC:

Received: by 10.50.185.232 with SMTP id ff8csp111908igc;
        Sun, 14 Apr 2013 18:00:12 -0700 (PDT)
X-Received: by 10.50.170.36 with SMTP id aj4mr3922913igc.67.1365987612880;
        Sun, 14 Apr 2013 18:00:12 -0700 (PDT)
Return-Path: <premiumbtc@gmail.com>
Received: from mail-ie0-x244.google.com (mail-ie0-x244.google.com [2607:f8b0:4001:c03::244])
        by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q9si7940887igl.58.2013.04.14.18.00.12
        (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128);
        Sun, 14 Apr 2013 18:00:12 -0700 (PDT)
Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of premiumbtc@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c03::244 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4001:c03::244;
Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;
       spf=pass (google.com: domain of premiumbtc@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c03::244 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=premiumbtc@gmail.com;
       dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com
Received: by mail-ie0-f196.google.com with SMTP id c10so2002039ieb.11
        for <max@XXXXXXXXX>; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 18:00:12 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
        d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
        h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id
         :subject:from:to:content-type;
        bh=6Lhw8K6z1lDJr46QdFjHKy4WVgUkie0pKug7HMz16qU=;
        b=A+d/SJwvgxuXzIrjTueh/OQvsyvVm6MyAoswOcOy4KclB8+LN+ZFTBHpGL4DXH0/13
         TglfiCyhQ13Xuz8H3F5RyLHY1yLCvjbsfqSQk2Tpuj3x3AlIQ02BGMwDITAQq9RDS571
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X-Received: by 10.50.192.138 with SMTP id hg10mr3823515igc.95.1365987612705;
 Sun, 14 Apr 2013 18:00:12 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.64.136.82 with HTTP; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 18:00:12 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <CAAPeHVTJv-rnLfg_J6b0Nib1H1hbNeo9wXQQZjfrAhqRgV4YgQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAPeHVTJv-rnLfg_J6b0Nib1H1hbNeo9wXQQZjfrAhqRgV4YgQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 21:00:12 -0400
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Subject: Re: 5 BTC - makksik
From: Premium Btc <premiumbtc@gmail.com>

Any advice?

This was my first transaction and I just feel so deluded and let down. Really grossed out.

Thanks,
Makksik
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April 15, 2013, 04:01:32 AM
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agree on
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April 15, 2013, 04:11:29 AM
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Thanks!
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April 15, 2013, 05:53:48 AM
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Thanks a lot of the suggestion. I guess I may really need to have multiple accounts for security purpose.
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April 15, 2013, 05:57:02 AM
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The inernet has always scared me about using PID, bitcoin has made the possiblility of being scammed out of somehting more than just 'doxxing' and that is real money. I have spend a good deal of time in in #bitcoin-otr and have seen some painful scams people have endured. I have been very careful about stuff as a result.
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April 15, 2013, 06:36:46 AM
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Sounds kinda terrible for a newbie like me. How can it be if it wanna replace real life currency?
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April 15, 2013, 06:56:18 AM
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I do find it amusing there are a 100 pages of posts saying "thanks" and "great advice!" Here's another one.
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April 15, 2013, 07:26:15 AM
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I'd like to put out a 5 BTC bounty for whomever can reveal the person behind premiumBTC@gmail.com--they gave me a lovely welcome to the btc world---and I'd love to thank them for it in as public a way as possible...

P.S. Sorry for trolling 5 posts to get by the no trolling limits--I do have more specific discussions to get to....
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April 15, 2013, 08:01:17 AM
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ok guys, this is cool!
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April 15, 2013, 08:04:58 AM
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good advice
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April 15, 2013, 08:16:55 AM
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No body trust newbies. Even when they have been lurking since the last bubble burst.
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April 15, 2013, 11:11:32 AM
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I'd like to put out a 5 BTC bounty for whomever can reveal the person behind premiumBTC@gmail.com--they gave me a lovely welcome to the btc world---and I'd love to thank them for it in as public a way as possible...
The fact that he uses a GMail account should have been your first clue.
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April 15, 2013, 01:55:50 PM
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Dammit- now I'm even more truamatised...
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April 16, 2013, 02:52:54 AM
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What happened to the 5 btc guy?  Did he scam you?
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April 16, 2013, 03:37:40 AM
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 Huh
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April 16, 2013, 09:16:23 PM
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I'd like to put out a 5 BTC bounty for whomever can reveal the person behind premiumBTC@gmail.com--they gave me a lovely welcome to the btc world---and I'd love to thank them for it in as public a way as possible...
The fact that he uses a GMail account should have been your first clue.


Actually we were texting his number is/was +1 647 795 3222. Number appears to be disconnected now...

Only got an e-mail after payment was sent. Unfortunately headers were scrambled on that e-mail so there's not someone with my relative lack of sophistication can do...

Wtvs life goes on... Now I will always use escrow and be more careful of encryption with wallets etc... Tough intro to the world but I'm certain that my complacency would have been more painful in the future...

Best,
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April 16, 2013, 09:16:56 PM
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What happened to the 5 btc guy?  Did he scam you?

Yes indeed. See ^
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