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March 26, 2013, 10:25:33 AM
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Thanks for all the helpful tips! Don't even trust yourself 
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March 26, 2013, 10:31:47 AM
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Thanks for all the helpful tips!
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March 26, 2013, 10:35:48 AM
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Very Good .
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March 26, 2013, 10:38:43 AM
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All good advice, thanks
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March 26, 2013, 02:06:05 PM
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Good discussion. Perhaps a security idea is some form of dual factor authentication for your wallet (i.e. - signing in with a password, then getting a call/txt/email with a pin. Perhaps that could be incorporated into the locally hosted wallet software as some form of optional enhanced service (for a minor fee to support the tech).

Just a crazy thought, but I am sure someone has thought about it before in the bitcoin space.
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March 26, 2013, 03:00:30 PM
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I'm so paranoid I'm finding it extremely hard to get BTC, why do the exchanges want so much personal info?
What do you mean? At least in Europe when doing SEPA transactions you don't need to give any additional info. Naturally they do see your name when looking at the bank transaction.
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March 26, 2013, 07:44:29 PM
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Thank you!
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March 26, 2013, 08:34:29 PM
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Thanks for the help.
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March 26, 2013, 11:07:23 PM
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Thanks for the info but from what I can see it all comes down to common sense.  If it is to good to be true it probably is and if it feels wrong don't do it lol.

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March 26, 2013, 11:09:07 PM
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Thanks
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March 27, 2013, 01:14:12 AM
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Good info, worth the read.
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March 27, 2013, 01:34:03 AM
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My standard password + My throwaway password (backwards, all caps) + &#$%@ + First two sentences of first paragraph of page 19 of my favorite book (include all capitalization and punctuation) + My wife's mother's middle name + My son's favorite superhero + My favorite number times 8734 + food my wife hates (backwards, all caps) + 9-digit number stored with my paper will + 10-character password stored in my safety deposit box + . . . .

Seriously? Is this sticky still relevant? If this is the recommended security procedure then bitcoin will never get adopted widely.
And if it's not still relevant, change the sticky, you'll scare newbies away.


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March 27, 2013, 06:03:53 AM
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Interesting stuff, thanks for the info.
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March 27, 2013, 07:14:53 AM
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My standard password + My throwaway password (backwards, all caps) + &#$%@ + First two sentences of first paragraph of page 19 of my favorite book (include all capitalization and punctuation) + My wife's mother's middle name + My son's favorite superhero + My favorite number times 8734 + food my wife hates (backwards, all caps) + 9-digit number stored with my paper will + 10-character password stored in my safety deposit box + . . . .

Seriously? Is this sticky still relevant? If this is the recommended security procedure then bitcoin will never get adopted widely.
And if it's not still relevant, change the sticky, you'll scare newbies away.




More relevant than ever. Don't be flippant about security of anything regarding money -- especially bank logins or bitcoin wallet details.
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March 27, 2013, 09:18:04 AM
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Interesting stuff, thanks for the info.

I am also very interested in these security comments. Anyone interested in my interest?
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March 27, 2013, 03:31:14 PM
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I've been banking online for years, with proper 2 and 3 factor authentication, never once had a problem, can't see how BTC can be any different.

The only time I've been burned was when the DOJ pulled the plug on Full Tilt Poker, and even then, eventually, us ROW players got paid out, one can only hope that our American mates get paid out soon and convert some of their winnings to BTC.

You want to be really paranoid, go and sit at a poker table, where EVERYONE is out to steal your chips.
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March 27, 2013, 03:37:43 PM
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I've been banking online for years, with proper 2 and 3 factor authentication, never once had a problem, can't see how BTC can be any different.

The only time I've been burned was when the DOJ pulled the plug on Full Tilt Poker, and even then, eventually, us ROW players got paid out, one can only hope that our American mates get paid out soon and convert some of their winnings to BTC.

You want to be really paranoid, go and sit at a poker table, where EVERYONE is out to steal your chips.

It is surprising though how many organizations don't offer 2 factor authentication. Some use site key images however I think that isn't enough, and don't truly count it.
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March 27, 2013, 03:46:05 PM
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Its hard to trust anyone this is true... Maybe a solution to this age old problem will be solved by some new talents in the bitcoin community.
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March 27, 2013, 05:12:41 PM
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Trust yourself though. If you think you know when something stinks irl, it's safe bet you'll get the "scent" online too - you just need solid info, so try to fish it and then rationalize how good info it is. After that it's more likely it's you scamming yourself if you fall for  tricks.

I've only met one solid scam attempt towards me in the net and as much as I wanted to believe it true, something seemed off. So I had to spread some water and there it was.

And understanding people helps. There are people that are greedy. Some of them are stupid, some of them not, but all of them will tell you stories and try to play you however they can. That does not mean the world is full of people trying to scam you, that's how a scammer sees the world. I believe trusting in people is important and contains a lot of possibilities. But then, I come from small circles.

It does not mean I don't agree with OP.

About the passwords, I think it's a good skill to learn how to memorize over 8 character random passwords or at least "fork" one over and over with something only you would know and mix it with the context you're in. I have a different password in every service, but I only need memorize the "root" random password which I then personalize to match the service- So, if I forget the service password, I can deduct it.

My bitcoin wallet though, 18 digits, memorized and tested every now and then.

If you want to make your passwords out of words, you could always make your passwords with some language you don't understand. Hell, use two. Make intentional typos.
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March 27, 2013, 08:20:04 PM
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thanks for the advices

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