NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[utopianfuture]

But this thing about voting by action make a lot of sense. There is no actually voting system needed. At least for important things like alias trasfer.

That's what I'm talking about! Anything can be solved without monsterous mechanism like that. Some big aliases's holders wanna power to sell theri aliases? No problem. They ask some dev to implement that. And community agree/disagree with result by their own actions. I see no problem, I'll install such feature. Someone see problem? Well, he start his own Nxt or manages to live without it or even start to find support to disagreement of such dangerous (in his eyes) feature. And market'll decide.

I second this opinion. there has to be a lengthy debate, why we need voting.
did I read somewhere it was connected with the asset exchange!?

I disagree with this opinion. I think we need a voting system. Now how can we come to a consensus ?

[skytaper]

       For how much longer do we tolerate this ?!?!? I definitively moving out to forums.nxtcrypto.org - they have very nice slidebar. I'm sick of Graviton's puppet forum. Please don't call it official anymore.

[nxtgt]

you sorely underestimate the amount of time that me and those 3 other people are spending on the info/www/forums sites of nxtcrypto.org.

You just may not be aware of the resources you have available?  visit forums.nxtcrypt.org and start speaking out!

Perhaps I was being unclear. This has no bearing on your or any of the other developers continued efforts, and thank you for stepping up. I would contribute more if I could but I'm just not as technical as you.

What I was referring to with "time" is the time that outside interests have to spend looking for authoritative information on the topic. There is a LOT of trolling going around and it is my belief that a large part of the community views nextcoin.org as THE authoritative source on NXT outside of this thread, simply because it has the most activity. I say that strategically, de-centralization in this sense is a bad idea because misinformation is being disseminated and in my case, (the reason I'm getting very heated about all of this) useful information is being threatened for deletion because of a clear conflict of interest. This is  hurting NXT price discovery and serving as a barrier to entry for interested investors. This has no bearing on who Graviton is but the conflict exists nonetheless. Meanwhile, people who are trying to get involved or are, at the very least, interested in investing may not be getting quality information because of the lack of a clear, authentic source.

[NxtChg]

       For how much longer do we tolerate this ?!?!? I definitively moving out to forums.nxtcrypto.org - they have very nice slidebar. I'm sick of Graviton's puppet forum. Please don't call it official anymore.

LOL, that's our own Kim Jong-un

I always wonder about such dictators - how stupid do you have to be to believe that trying to hide a problem equals solving it?

[Jaguar0625]

I created a new thread for the bounty CFB announced so it's easy to see who's working on it and what needs to be done: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=404321.new#new. Please post there if you're interested in working on it.

Bounty announcement

100'000 NXT will be paid for working JavaScript code that signs and verifies signatures using NRS algo.

- The licence must allow to use the code in any application
- Sign/verify speed must be not lower than 100 signatures per second on a 1 GHz CPU (1 core)
- All the code must be in a single non-obfuscated well-formatted .js file
- Input/output values must be strings like "8302504e4e57c6c65335289879c6915a273d3aae7bd086058e403fcd2bc18341"

The bounty is valid till the 20th of January, 2014 12:00:00 UTC. The complete code must be published in this thread.

[swartzfeger]

I post a few days ago in nexcoin.org that aws.amazon.com cloud gives 1 year free micro t1 VPS
I have a windows one free and now I added onepaid both with slightly more than 600mb ram. It seems that the nxt nodes run ok on them. I don't have them hallmarked but I thought we run as many like them as we could to support the stability.

It costs 0 for 1 year.
Go make accounts in aws.amazon.com and set up a VPS with nxt node.
You need to modify the web.xml
         <param-name>myAddress</param-name>
         <param-value>PUT THE VPS IP HERE</param-value>

Don't put money to fogrge just run nxt client.

Just running nxt node (client) with 0 nxt in it will help the stability right?? or am I confused again!!!!

Bai,

I signed up and I'm at my console home page. How do I set up a VPS? Do I launch an EC2 instance? Which flavor (linux, windows) of Amazon Machine Image should I choose?

Also, has anyone confirmed that this will help nxt network stability?

Why am I doing this when I can't even get my client to run properly?

[nxtgt]

Also, this is confusing:

https://i.imgur.com/ghHUKBu.png

Is DGEX not part of the community? What makes the NXT community separate from DGEX? Are you referring to the forum? Does anyone else see what I'm getting at here or am I a complete lunatic?

[kunibopl]

I second this opinion (VS is unneccessary). there has to be a lengthy debate, why we need voting.
did I read somewhere it was connected with the asset exchange!?

I disagree with this opinion. I think we need a voting system. Now how can we come to a consensus ?

I use the client without voting and you the client with voting. the richer branch will dictate the blockchain.

[utopianfuture]

       For how much longer do we tolerate this ?!?!? I definitively moving out to forums.nxtcrypto.org - they have very nice slidebar. I'm sick of Graviton's puppet forum. Please don't call it official anymore.

We already established that Nextcoin is not NXT official forum. On that premise, I think it is reasonable that you show some respects to the host when you enter his house. That's what I am going to do if it is my forum too.

[skytaper]

Also, this is confusing:



Is DGEX not part of the community? What makes the NXT community separate from DGEX? Are you referring to the forum? Does anyone else see what I'm getting at here or am I a complete lunatic?

 I guess pinarello is trying to underline that "Nextcoin community portal" nextcoin.org (ex-self-appointed "official portal") is not "the NXT community". Unfortunately, some people still think that it is most "official" website and dgex is the only exchange platform in universe.

[utopianfuture]

I second this opinion (VS is unneccessary). there has to be a lengthy debate, why we need voting.
did I read somewhere it was connected with the asset exchange!?

I disagree with this opinion. I think we need a voting system. Now how can we come to a consensus ?

I use the client without voting and you the client with voting. the richer branch will dictate the blockchain.

That is my thought too. We have no disagreement at all.

[slothbag]

Nxt full source code (decompiled 0.5.2).

https://github.com/slothbag/nxt-decompiled

donations: 6683387465452189666

[utopianfuture]

Also, this is confusing:



Is DGEX not part of the community? What makes the NXT community separate from DGEX? Are you referring to the forum? Does anyone else see what I'm getting at here or am I a complete lunatic?

DGEX is a part of NXT community, just not official in any capacity. Pin is also not a official voice of NXT community.

[dzarmush]

Also, this is confusing:



Is DGEX not part of the community? What makes the NXT community separate from DGEX? Are you referring to the forum? Does anyone else see what I'm getting at here or am I a complete lunatic?

It's not just confusing, it's total bullshit. Graviton made for the community more than most of us. If someone doesn't like fees, then remember how much money did you make on Dgex or outside it but because there was such thing as Dgex. If there was no Dgex and nextcoin.org we'd still have Nxt around 0.000001 Btc and one thread here on bitcointalk.

[mrnxtuser]

What's with nextcoin.org spreading FUD. Although the value of nxt doesn't really matter right now as all of you are working very hard on development and marketing of nxt and we are pretty much still in Beta, the value attracts new people. And the constant downtrend will either attract new buyers or current holders will just panic sell like noobs. Although my nxt are currently being held hostage in dgex people are discrediting dgex and graviton way too much which makes new buyers scared and current holders panic sell .... i think he did a pretty good job with dgex and still does

I wan't to send my NXT to the client but i'm afraid to get hacked, i'm unsure of what security measures besides a 100 character + password i should implement for my computer. I'm not sure what ports to open and close or even how to even do them LOL ...can someone guide me on the ports? how to open/close them

[skytaper]

       For how much longer do we tolerate this ?!?!? I definitively moving out to forums.nxtcrypto.org - they have very nice slidebar. I'm sick of Graviton's puppet forum. Please don't call it official anymore.

We already established that Nextcoin is not NXT official forum. On that premise, I think it is reasonable that you show some respects to the host when you enter his house. That's what I am going to do if it is my forum too.

 nxtgt did not mention anything really negative about dgex and Graviton want him what? Not to mention that dgex have some fees and it take some time to withdraw and deposit funds... It is not the first time the nextcoin founder censor some exchange-related topics there.  

[opticalcarrier]

LOL, that's our own Kim Jong-un
I always wonder about such dictators - how stupid do you have to be to believe that trying to hide a problem equals solving it?

guys.  hes running a BUSINESS (the DGEX exchange).  He really has no other choice in the matter; Im sure his business partners supports what hes doing.  He not just some asshole trying to be a dictator, he simply must follow good business practice.  If his business is sponsoring an exchange and forums then they just cannot allow the exchange to be portrayed in a negative light.  Im starting to understand why he was unable to allow his forums asset become a part of the NXT Foundation.

[utopianfuture]

       For how much longer do we tolerate this ?!?!? I definitively moving out to forums.nxtcrypto.org - they have very nice slidebar. I'm sick of Graviton's puppet forum. Please don't call it official anymore.

We already established that Nextcoin is not NXT official forum. On that premise, I think it is reasonable that you show some respects to the host when you enter his house. That's what I am going to do if it is my forum too.

 nxtgt did not mention anything really negative about dgex and Graviton want him what? Not to mention that dgex have some fees and it take some time to withdraw and deposit funds... It is not the first time the nextcoin founder censor some exchange-related topics there.  

Honestly, I think Graviton already acted in a reasonably good faith by allowing competing business open in his own forum. If you want an independent forum, please go to nxtcrypto. There would be no censor there.

[NxtChg]

guys.  hes running a BUSINESS (the DGEX exchange).  He really has no other choice in the matter; Im sure his team supports what hes doing.  He not trying to be a dictator, he simply must follow good business practice.  If his business is sponsoring an exchange and forums then they just cannot allow the exchange to be portrayed in a negative light.  Im starting to understand why he was unable to allow his forums asset become a part of the NXT Foundation.

That's where you go wrong.

Good business is doing 140,000 vehicles recall, not beating up a newspaper reporter who found out about the broken steering wheel.

[xyzzyx]

...
At first it might need someone to make a market to get the trades going. I would be more than happy to do that, as that is kind of my day job. Anybody can place orders in the orderbook, just need to select the NXT/USD or NXT/BTC pair.
...

I have many XRP
And some btc and usd @Stamp..

I purchased about 1.3k of NXT on the Peercover BTC/NXT orderbook a few hours ago, but it's kinda sparse:



I look forward to seeing more people trading there soon.