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January 19, 2014, 10:32:09 PM
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Reminder....  every time you post something like this on the NEX thread... you'll get the same on your thread.

Keep things civil folks.

Just because you got competition, doesn't mean you have to freak out.

 
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January 19, 2014, 10:32:29 PM
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Is this coin 100% premined "seed coins" and dev just waiting someone to buy coins, or are they all premined coins give away for free?
Or how this works?  Cool
NXT is already distributed you can purchase NXT here www.bter.com www.dgex.com www.nxtchg.com
Thank you for info. But I actually asking is dev give away all coins or how many they keep them self?
If I understand right this is 100% premined coin and every coin will get POS on future.
How many coins are behind dev growing stake = How much is dev premining and keep coins them self? All? 1%, 10% 100% or..?
I dont mind if they make profits from nothing... or from noobs pocket Smiley
but just want to know how many coins there is for dumping by dev?
Its important info for investors.

If dev premining amount is even < 1% I may download wallet and look that POS coin.

I believe there are several early investors who are not devs that hold very large amounts of coins that have not participated in bounty programs and are presumably waiting to dump.  So your concerns are sort of valid.  Some of the devs might dump if they get annoyed, but I don't think they hold more than the other early investors.  I don't know the distribution numbers off the top of my head though.
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January 19, 2014, 10:32:50 PM
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Is this coin 100% premined "seed coins" and dev just waiting someone to buy coins, or are they all premined coins give away for free?
Or how this works?  Cool
NXT is already distributed you can purchase NXT here www.bter.com www.dgex.com www.nxtchg.com
Thank you for info. But I actually asking is dev give away all coins or how many they keep them self?
If I understand right this is 100% premined coin and every coin will get POS on future.
How may coins are behind dev growing stake = How much is dev premining and keep coins them self? All? 1%, 10% 100% or..?
I dont mind if they make profits from nothing... or from noobs pocket Smiley
but just want to know how many coins there is for dumping by dev?
Its important info for investors.


Are you sure you are in the right thread?
Serious question.

Nxt has been around since november and is up and running.
Maybe you are confused with NEX, NOX, NEXX, NEM, ME.TOO or FRX?
Those are all new since yesterday?

I repeat, I mean this question seriously.
Oh it's 100% mined second ripple Shocked
Yes I ignore this automatic. This was first time I stop look it.
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January 19, 2014, 10:33:38 PM
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Is there anyone here that knows objective c/ applescript that can help me complete my torrent application?

Right now it can upload files in base64>hex format with identifiers, i need a way to pull the messages from the blockchain and recombine them...
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January 19, 2014, 10:35:49 PM
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Reminder....  every time you post something like this on the NEX thread... you'll get the same on your thread.

Who cares?

Just because you got competition, doesn't mean you have to freak out.

You are no competition, Mr. Delusion. There is not even a single byte coming from you that could be recognized as competition.

You truly crack me up
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January 19, 2014, 10:37:56 PM
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Reminder....  every time you post something like this on the NEX thread... you'll get the same on your thread.

Who cares?

Just because you got competition, doesn't mean you have to freak out.

You are no competition, Mr. Delusion. There is not even a single byte coming from you that could be recognized as competition.

You truly crack me up

Well then, quit spamming the NEX thread!

 
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January 19, 2014, 10:38:47 PM
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Is this coin 100% premined "seed coins" and dev just waiting someone to buy coins, or are they all premined coins give away for free?
Or how this works?  Cool
NXT is already distributed you can purchase NXT here www.bter.com www.dgex.com www.nxtchg.com
Thank you for info. But I actually asking is dev give away all coins or how many they keep them self?
If I understand right this is 100% premined coin and every coin will get POS on future.
How may coins are behind dev growing stake = How much is dev premining and keep coins them self? All? 1%, 10% 100% or..?
I dont mind if they make profits from nothing... or from noobs pocket Smiley
but just want to know how many coins there is for dumping by dev?
Its important info for investors.


Are you sure you are in the right thread?
Serious question.

Nxt has been around since november and is up and running.
Maybe you are confused with NEX, NOX, NEXX, NEM, ME.TOO or FRX?
Those are all new since yesterday?

I repeat, I mean this question seriously.
Oh it's 100% mined second ripple Shocked
Yes I ignore this automatic. This was first time I stop look it.

if you want to call it that with (probably) no research, go ahead.
I f you want to know more, please take a look at our wiki: http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/Main_Page

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January 19, 2014, 10:39:52 PM
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Reminder....  every time you post something like this on the NEX thread... you'll get the same on your thread.

Who cares?

Just because you got competition, doesn't mean you have to freak out.

You are no competition, Mr. Delusion. There is not even a single byte coming from you that could be recognized as competition.

You truly crack me up

Well then, quit spamming the NEX thread!

All I did in your thread was to debunk your impudent lie about the source code, don't be angry. Grin
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January 19, 2014, 10:40:08 PM
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Well then, quit spamming the NEX thread!

Quit taking the actions of one community member as a representation of the whole Smiley

if you'd read a few pages back, people are actually rather nice about your initiative.

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January 19, 2014, 10:41:06 PM
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Is there anyone here that knows objective c/ applescript that can help me complete my torrent application?

Right now it can upload files in base64>hex format with identifiers, i need a way to pull the messages from the blockchain and recombine them...


i know objective c
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January 19, 2014, 10:41:08 PM
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bug with desynced wallet on a fork?
not mine picture:

http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=14153379593221795136
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January 19, 2014, 10:42:45 PM
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I understand that "Decentralized Asset Exchange / Colored Coins" has been completed but does anyone know when this feature be implemented in NXT?
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January 19, 2014, 10:44:53 PM
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Is this coin 100% premined "seed coins" and dev just waiting someone to buy coins, or are they all premined coins give away for free?
Or how this works?  Cool
Nxt is completely IPO with many different stages:

Original IPO: (1 NXT = 2 Satoshi)
IPO 2: First week (1 NXT = 100 Satoshi)
IPO 3: Second week (1 NXT = 400-2000 Satoshi) - first exchange
IPO 4: Next month (1 NXT = 3000-6000 Satoshi) - aliases, messages
IPO 5: February (?) – distributed exchanges, stock exchanges, client (?)
IPO 6: March (?) – transparent forging (?)
Release: April (?) – colored coins (?)
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January 19, 2014, 10:50:03 PM
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Well, I faced a moral dilemma and would like to ask for an advice...

FrictionlessCoin created a thread dedicated to NEX (descendant of NXT). I had a lot of fun reading that thread but I suspect some people took NEX seriously. The problem is that if FC waits till April when Nxt source code becomes completely open, he still won't be able to generate a valid genesis block, coz Nxt uses a crypto algo modified by BCNext (this is why we collected 10 BTC for the audit). I support all cryptocurrencies and would like to help him to create a new genesis block, competition is good for the whole crypto-community. But this could look not very good to guys who own NXTs...

What would u do?

is this is a serious question?
Frictionslesscoin has done NOTHING constructive. critisism can be constructive, but his is not.
his copycoin can't be taken seriously. what would be the sense of creating an nearly exact copy?
competition? you don't believe that yourself.

NXT: 5231236538923913892
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January 19, 2014, 10:53:31 PM
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Well, I faced a moral dilemma and would like to ask for an advice...

FrictionlessCoin created a thread dedicated to NEX (descendant of NXT). I had a lot of fun reading that thread but I suspect some people took NEX seriously. The problem is that if FC waits till April when Nxt source code becomes completely open, he still won't be able to generate a valid genesis block, coz Nxt uses a crypto algo modified by BCNext (this is why we collected 10 BTC for the audit). I support all cryptocurrencies and would like to help him to create a new genesis block, competition is good for the whole crypto-community. But this could look not very good to guys who own NXTs...

What would u do?

Either open the source completely and assist with genesis block creation, or don't open the source completely and don't assist with genesis block creation. Doing one and not the other is simply mean.

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January 19, 2014, 11:00:58 PM
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Well, I faced a moral dilemma and would like to ask for an advice...

FrictionlessCoin created a thread dedicated to NEX (descendant of NXT). I had a lot of fun reading that thread but I suspect some people took NEX seriously. The problem is that if FC waits till April when Nxt source code becomes completely open, he still won't be able to generate a valid genesis block, coz Nxt uses a crypto algo modified by BCNext (this is why we collected 10 BTC for the audit). I support all cryptocurrencies and would like to help him to create a new genesis block, competition is good for the whole crypto-community. But this could look not very good to guys who own NXTs...

What would u do?
Either open the source completely and assist with genesis block creation, or don't open the source completely and don't assist with genesis block creation. Doing one and not the other is simply mean.

This seems an unnecessarily hard distinction to me.
If he asks, that is a different story, of course.

But if he gets all the tools, that's great, too, isn't it?
If I give someone a saw, hammer and nails, it isn't mean if I don't help to create a wardrobe.

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Last edit: January 19, 2014, 11:16:10 PM by ferment
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1. I agree that nodes could stay on JVM. But installations for general public have to be download + double click (with or without JVM). We need to find out what Oracle has to say about packaging JRE.


I wonder if this would work? http://www.jwrapper.com

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2. Have not seen the user instructions yet, but I doubt users will understand the whole concept of using local software via their browser. Name one common product that does this, except router config?
    If eventually we stay with Java, then let's at least implement JavaFX or Swing interface. Then we will also solve this browser cashing issues with GET instead of POST.

This is possible now to write a Java or (other language) front-end that calls NRS via http behind the scenes. There are a bunch of solutions to building cross-platform apps using HTML5 + Javascript + CSS3 to build native desktop and mobile apps. Many of them allow for a hybrid approach to call native code which would be handy for signing in NXT without a JS crypto implementation.

So, download a native app bundled with NRS server and JRE. Then download the client of your choice or use a hosted page that calls NRS local or just does signing local and gets blockchain from a server (like blockchain.info's wallet or Electrum). These two apps (server and client) could be bundled as well.

All of these solutions are doable and not very complicated.

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January 19, 2014, 11:14:19 PM
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i know objective c

PICTURE

(Hey, it's Sunday night, can't I have a bit of fun...)

don't understand sorry :S he ask if someone knows Obj-c and i answered that... i don't think it's funny
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January 19, 2014, 11:15:35 PM
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A new video, a new article, a new guerilla whatever is not enough.

Go to big news sites, go to big bitcoin shows, go to big names to talk about NXT.

Does no-one realize that we had enough of videos and articles?

We are already sending people to the biggest Bitcoin conferences and might even get a stand and speaker position at these events, but hey we got zero NXT to do it with, so we pay from our own wallet. Isn't that nice and fair?
The guys who do all the work has to pay for it too Smiley

You and Niffy could ask for a fund reserved specially for people going to conferences and promote NXT. This could be separated from salsacz's efforts

Devise a plan with funding details, all the conferences and cost. I will support this effort.
Me too.
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January 19, 2014, 11:21:47 PM
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Either open the source completely and assist with genesis block creation, or don't open the source completely and don't assist with genesis block creation. Doing one and not the other is simply mean.

This seems an unnecessarily hard distinction to me.
If he asks, that is a different story, of course.

But if he gets all the tools, that's great, too, isn't it?
If I give someone a saw, hammer and nails, it isn't mean if I don't help to create a wardrobe.

Ah, perhaps I should rephrase. I certainly don't think CFB should feel obligated to work for free on creating a genesis block for NEX!

But if genesis block creation needs some secret sauce that isn't clear to a competent individual with access to the full Java source code, then that's a form of concealment that doesn't agree fully with the open source movement. We're either open, or we're not open. In April when the full source is released, it should include whatever information is required to allow someone to replicate the coin, including genesis block creation (but not necessarily hand holding).

The market will then decide whether Frictionless's 'fair' distribution makes it a more valuable coin.


Anyway, this is all academic, I already know the exact date that the NEX genesis block will come into existence.

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