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May 04, 2018, 09:36:48 AM |
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I am sad to see the calamity that befell you. I can feel the sadness you feel, you must be very sorry and disappointed with what you have done. on the other hand you should take this as a lesson so you are more careful in keeping your bitcoin dompen. I hope someone who has earned bitcoin from your wallet, he is willing to return it back to you.
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boty
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May 04, 2018, 09:45:26 AM |
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is it true 13 BTC is really horrible to save assets in ledger better store it directly in blockchain.info because the wallet is proved to have very high security. it's better to avoid the risk than to lose that much asset.
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May 04, 2018, 10:19:06 AM |
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.
NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.
Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.
At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.
Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.
Here is the transaction.
Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6
Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o
Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet. I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- @TheShillBilly Twitter
I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them Please return them! Please Please Please! RT to help...
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE----- 1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g= -----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.
If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.
theres nothing you can do about it... just accept the fact that you loss your money. better start again and be cafeful next time you open your wallet.. no one will give it back to you... thefts are greedy people..
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May 04, 2018, 10:29:27 AM |
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.
NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.
Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.
At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.
Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.
Here is the transaction.
Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6
Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o
Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet. I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- @TheShillBilly Twitter
I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them Please return them! Please Please Please! RT to help...
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE----- 1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g= -----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.
If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.
I don't understand, was your computer compromised, is that it? Are any of those wallets you use compromised?
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blockman
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May 04, 2018, 10:57:54 AM |
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is it true 13 BTC is really horrible to save assets in ledger better store it directly in blockchain.info because the wallet is proved to have very high security. it's better to avoid the risk than to lose that much asset.
What? are you sure with what you are suggesting and saying? Coming from you that hardware wallets are more vulnerable than a web wallet? You're wrong in here and you misunderstood on what happened with OP's condition of doing the fork thing.
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Maikl
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May 04, 2018, 11:09:15 AM |
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When I read these messages, my heart bleeds. I am truly sorry and please accept my condolences. It is necessary to carefully and responsibly approach the storage of your investment capital. I hope that you will not give up and will soon be able to return some of the savings.
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May 04, 2018, 11:23:43 AM |
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If it makes you feel any better, I blew 20 BTC on a hand of Seals poker. Of course, that was years ago and the coins were worth $200 or so. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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May 04, 2018, 01:33:36 PM |
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Extremely sad to hear what happened with you. ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) But can you or some one else please explain how exactly this happened?? So how exactly did this happen? I believe the point of compromise happened at one of two places. 1. Using the Ledger to connect to the one of the two BTCP/BTCD Electrum Wallets. The BTCP has an app on the Ledger. The BTCD does not. 2. I don’t recall doing this for my BTC seeds but I might have input them in my hand into the BTCP/BTCD wallets. That would mean a keylogger has compromised my setup. I’m not normally adventurous in downloading foreign software, generally, aside from rogue Bitcoin wallets (heh...). So I’m not blaming the BTCP or BTCD Electrum wallets outright as it could have been me inputting my BTC seeds. I don’t recall doing that with my BTC seeds but Indo remember doing that with the old seeds that’s had the BTC already moved. If anyone is familiar with the BTCP Electrum wallet off Github, that’s where I got it. I’ll have to confirm but I believe I also got the BTCD from there. I’m sorry if this is unclear. My head is spinning and I’m not sure on where I was compromised. It is a really devastating thread and I have read it with sinking heart. I too was extracting BCH and BTG from the BTC wallets and just thinking how easy it is to fall a victim if one is not very very cautious and thinking and rethinking what one does before actually doing it, well, it makes me sick. Probably you will not retrieve those founds and they are lost for you, but I hope that story will be a cold shower for some fork enthusiasts and will save somebody from doing those mistakes again. Thanks for sharing.
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May 04, 2018, 01:36:15 PM |
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Waw thats too much to lose it. And i think many people are like you too when they start it from a past year ago when it price is still not much.
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May 04, 2018, 01:47:21 PM |
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That was really huge amount of bitcoin, I'm sorry for your lose. From my view I think that it's impossible to get that bitcoin back. Next time be more careful and try to hold your bitcoin on Ledger wallet and don't share your btc seed. If it makes you feel any better, I blew 20 BTC on a hand of Seals poker. Of course, that was years ago and the coins were worth $200 or so. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I think that it's not the same to lose $4000 and $117 000.. btw. do you remember guy which pay 10,000 Bitcoins for pizza , how he feel now? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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May 04, 2018, 02:05:58 PM |
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.
NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.
Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.
At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.
Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.
Here is the transaction.
Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6
Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o
Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet. I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- @TheShillBilly Twitter
I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them Please return them! Please Please Please! RT to help...
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE----- 1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g= -----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.
If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.
That was too sad that you've lost 13 BTC? wow!! That's a too big amount of yours and now you've just lost it. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) It's too hard to move on on that amount because that is a too huge amount for me. You can already make your own business in that amount but someone stole your own money with your own wallet. WOW! Maybe you have a friend that knows your private password or private keys and get all your BTC in your wallet.
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May 04, 2018, 02:19:46 PM |
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Cautionary Tale: I messed up. Big time. Please don’t pile on harder as I’m already sick to my stomach.
NEVER EXPOSE YOUR BTC KEYS/Seed to an forked wallet.
Two days ago, I attempted to split my BTC Diamond and BTC Private. I could not get it.
At some point, I exposed my Ledger Nano with my BTC on it, to each of their Electrum Wallets.
Last night, my wallet was emptied of ALL my BTC, 13+ coins.
Here is the transaction.
Transaction Identifier: d96a7dcd9775456e36938ed2cb84e9d0cac46fad14b8c95008ed77d08f9f8de6
Went to: 3LsvHPBGuEVLZZDUiUuNdNi33T7zmTBC7o
Here’s a signed message so you know I HAD controller of the wallet. I’m not scamming, just utterly sick to my stomach for losing 13+ BTC.
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- @TheShillBilly Twitter
I've lost all my coins. Please help ANYONE. If you stole them Please return them! Please Please Please! RT to help...
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE----- 1QFFas4xGSy1p1Kj2ghyD6BJhVDmwWmyKb H744TwI8rhqMHinDQdTtYiw3JGie9oC/p6XaUcPz25pzUcEoK0cakF0p1mBPZehnJk1PP8JgtEgte2OvDZXAr3g= -----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
It appears that I have now lost my entire life savings. I’m not begging for a handout but rather attempting to warn anyone new to the space. I’m sick to my stomach with the loss and my only hope is to gain the attention of the culprit.
If you have any space in your heart, please return the BTC. I’d accept a fraction of what was stolen. Please don’t completely bankrupt me.
I don't understand, was your computer compromised, is that it? Are any of those wallets you use compromised? He exposed his private key while trying to claim his coins through a malicious wallet. I'm sorry for your brother, many of the older members have lost a lot more btc in the past, you have to try to see past it at some point and keep at it.
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May 04, 2018, 02:21:41 PM |
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Ouch. I only hold my Bitcoin wallet dat on my flash disks with Electrum software. I would avoid all forks since many are scams.
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May 04, 2018, 02:22:57 PM |
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it is very unfortunate in losing 13btc even i lost 7 BTC in an Ponzi trading program when i brought btc it is 1000 dollars and when i lost BTC was 6000 dollars you can imagine the pain I went through
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May 04, 2018, 02:23:06 PM |
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13 Bitcoin is very huge amount of money, sorry for the loss man, everythings gonna be alright not now but very soon, hope this experience gives you a lesson and become verycareful, better to watch and read about the security of the cryptowallet. Dont loss hope.
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May 04, 2018, 02:25:09 PM |
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That was really huge amount of bitcoin, I'm sorry for your lose. From my view I think that it's impossible to get that bitcoin back. Next time be more careful and try to hold your bitcoin on Ledger wallet and don't share your btc seed. If it makes you feel any better, I blew 20 BTC on a hand of Seals poker. Of course, that was years ago and the coins were worth $200 or so. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I think that it's not the same to lose $4000 and $117 000.. btw. do you remember guy which pay 10,000 Bitcoins for pizza , how he feel now? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Lol yeah if you feel bad about it, and you probably should be because that amount in btc by far is not a laughing matter, there are people who've lost way more in the past. I don't think there's a way to retrieve those so take it a life lesson. Just don't let that discourage you in getting into bitcoin since you can very well earn that again.
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May 04, 2018, 02:31:23 PM |
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do you keep it in 1 same purse? it should be the worst you have anticipated by dividing your assets on some wallets or exchange, or you sell some of your bitcoin on fiat money and keep it in your account, I'm more secure
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May 04, 2018, 02:33:36 PM |
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Wow thats horrible. That is the nightmare scenario for any crypto user...make a mistake and get hacked and lose all your money. Sorry it happened to the OP.
I wouldn't even bother with all these forks for a while. They aren't worth much and if you have your coins in long term storage there's no reason to bother with that small extra amount of money. May as well keep them and when at some later time you are moving your coins to sell them then bother with trying to get the forks.
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thecodebear
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May 04, 2018, 02:36:16 PM |
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How could this be prevented?
It seems like his problem was he didn't move his BTC first right? If he had moved his Bitcoin to a different wallet first, then he could have safely used the private key on the previous wallet to get the forked coins since that BTC wallet would be empty at that point. Is my logic correct on that?
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May 04, 2018, 02:44:56 PM |
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aww ...that's really bad...but if someone stole this he is not going to give you .You should realise that.
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