sparta_cuss
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February 04, 2014, 12:11:14 AM |
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Can someone explain (or point me to a page that explains for the non-programmers) what trustless mixing is? My understanding of the mixing services of Fedora is that it is not trustless, i.e., people who run nodes that do the mixing can potentially have access to the transaction trails of any incoming-outgoing coins. They are, therefore, a location of potential compromise. How can we know that only "the good guys" will be hosting mixing nodes?
The mixing services that Zerocoin and others have been working on do not have such a point of access. Even those running mixing nodes would not be able to trace transactions.
I do not know whether artos's proposed mixing service is trustless or not.
Can someone with more knowledge please respond to these hypotheses?
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Catswold
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February 04, 2014, 01:37:22 AM |
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Artos actually dropped by the forums last night . . . he left all kinds of information--NOT! No update, no "Hi guys" . . . nothing.
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aimnano
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February 04, 2014, 04:01:57 AM |
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orddie
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February 04, 2014, 02:20:16 PM |
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Trying to mine with stratum-pool to the wallet and getting the following error. ANy idea? 2014-02-04 08:36:04,705 ERROR template_registry # [Failure instance: Traceback: <class 'struct.error'>: unpack requires a string argument of length 1 /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/twisted/internet/defer.py:1095:gotResult /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/twisted/internet/defer.py:1082:_inlineCallbacks /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/twisted/internet/defer.py:362:callback /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/twisted/internet/defer.py:458:_startRunCallbacks --- <exception caught here> --- /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/twisted/internet/defer.py:545:_runCallbacks stratum-mining/lib/template_registry.py:142:_update_block stratum-mining/lib/block_template.py:79:fill_from_rpc stratum-mining/lib/halfnode.py:194:deserialize stratum-mining/lib/util.py:11:deser_string
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orddie
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February 05, 2014, 09:56:25 PM |
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Trying to mine with stratum-pool to the wallet and getting the following error. ANy idea? 2014-02-04 08:36:04,705 ERROR template_registry # [Failure instance: Traceback: <class 'struct.error'>: unpack requires a string argument of length 1 /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/twisted/internet/defer.py:1095:gotResult /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/twisted/internet/defer.py:1082:_inlineCallbacks /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/twisted/internet/defer.py:362:callback /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/twisted/internet/defer.py:458:_startRunCallbacks --- <exception caught here> --- /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/twisted/internet/defer.py:545:_runCallbacks stratum-mining/lib/template_registry.py:142:_update_block stratum-mining/lib/block_template.py:79:fill_from_rpc stratum-mining/lib/halfnode.py:194:deserialize stratum-mining/lib/util.py:11:deser_string fixed with setting COINDAEMON_TX = 'no'
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aimnano
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February 08, 2014, 03:35:23 AM |
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- RonPaulCoin - port 3335
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February 08, 2014, 04:44:57 PM |
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this coin is dead.
RIP stablecoin
thanks artos!
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Ximp
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February 08, 2014, 06:32:06 PM |
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this coin is dead.
RIP stablecoin
thanks artos!
Haha pretty much.
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CryptoBassman
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February 09, 2014, 04:41:55 AM |
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I'd like to point out that if Artos doesn't return, we have developers who have already volunteered to step up and further development of the coin.
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Ximp
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February 09, 2014, 05:18:32 AM |
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I'd like to point out that if Artos doesn't return, we have developers who have already volunteered to step up and further development of the coin.
Really? Who? I haven't seen anybody post that.
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February 09, 2014, 06:54:03 AM |
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Recently? Invisibel said that he would put in his (TIPS) version of the mixing service if Artos doesn't return. I also know that before that there were other people chiming in as well.
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February 09, 2014, 12:20:35 PM Last edit: February 09, 2014, 06:50:16 PM by instacash |
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It is pretty much dead (at least for the moment) indeed.
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haggis
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February 09, 2014, 01:06:24 PM |
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Looking at this chart makes me kind of proud because I sold at 0.00065000 But unfortunately bought back at 0.00058000 lol
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Catswold
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February 09, 2014, 02:04:58 PM |
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I don't know, maybe I'll be the guy turning out the lights, but I haven't completely given up on artos, yet. I'll only note that, for all the hoopla and crowing, the TIPS mixing service remains not ready for prime-time. It appears that in execution, the principle is not as simple as in theory.
Artos seemed quite confident that it was a relatively simple thing to do, yet here we are still awaiting word of a beta, and invisibel's system is still on IRC and they still appear to be stumbling around in the dark on that forum thread.
I see no reason to sell out now, and if the price drops more, I may pick up a few k more. Even if TIPS works out, I'm not convinced that an SBC with a mixing service won't remain viable.
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CryptoBassman
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February 09, 2014, 06:47:31 PM |
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Well Catswold, I'm with you. I still think something will come of it as well. Also, the community is as important for a coin to succeed as the developer is.
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StealthyCactus
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February 09, 2014, 08:56:51 PM |
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Yeah i really hope this gets pulled off. I mean without word from Artos, its very hard to get anywhere with the mixing service, time will tell i guess
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February 10, 2014, 12:39:01 AM |
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Guys/gals... thinking about shutting down the block explorer @ sbc.blockexplorer.io.
I'm not alone in thinking @artos has singlehandedly birthed and doomed this coin. The best hope for this coin is also its worst enemy.
Having mined LTC and a select few other 'alt coins' for years, I had high hopes for this coin -- even following the inexplicable disappearance and return of @artos from God knows where...
The market value of the coin has dropped many fold and the perceived value has hit rock bottom. Many of us stuck with the coin through the hard times due to the announcement of a ground-breaking privacy angle (mixing service) that would help set the coin apart from the sea of virtual copy-coins.
I've given up hope. Where is @artos? Where is the plan? Where is the mixing service? I guess it doesn't matter because "we've" been beaten to the punch.
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Catswold
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February 10, 2014, 01:21:27 AM |
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Do what you think you must. As I said, I haven't given up yet.
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Cryptedge
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February 10, 2014, 02:43:49 AM |
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I haven't given up either. I believe in what I see.
Artos is still occasionally checking in. He doesn't respond, but he told us he would be unable to respond, and that he was specifically only working on the coin.
If he can't work on it anymore, he'll call for another dev team. He invited us to compete with him, in fact.
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Marec4
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February 10, 2014, 06:51:49 AM |
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Recently? Invisibel said that he would put in his (TIPS) version of the mixing service if Artos doesn't return. I also know that before that there were other people chiming in as well.
I believe R-T-B is also working on StableCoin mixing service.
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