Bitmain launches the Z9 Equihash miner

[madmartyk]

I wonder how long they run them for testing.  Maybe a week, day, a few hours?

I don't know, most of mine have been clean and new/like new condition.  So I am pretty sure they aren't "testing" all of them in the manner people think, but clearly they are running and selling some of the miners as new that were clearly mining before they shipped them.  So we cannot generalize some examples to be proof that all are done this way.  

Running for few hours/days doesn't accumulate as much dust
At least, clean off the dust on product picture itself.
https://file.bitmain.com/shop-image-storage/product/2018/05/03/17/7dc1ee64-13ab-441d-8047-ca5b1603a0f8.png

You can tell the model, that could be an S7 (that were sold on Alibaba).  I bought some silverfish on Ali-Express that just dirty as hell when they arrived.

[heavyarms1912]

I wonder how long they run them for testing.  Maybe a week, day, a few hours?

I don't know, most of mine have been clean and new/like new condition.  So I am pretty sure they aren't "testing" all of them in the manner people think, but clearly they are running and selling some of the miners as new that were clearly mining before they shipped them.  So we cannot generalize some examples to be proof that all are done this way.  

Running for few hours/days doesn't accumulate as much dust
At least, clean off the dust on product picture itself.
https://file.bitmain.com/shop-image-storage/product/2018/05/03/17/7dc1ee64-13ab-441d-8047-ca5b1603a0f8.png

You can tell the model, that could be an S7 (that were sold on Alibaba).  I bought some silverfish on Ali-Express that just dirty as hell when they arrived.

I didn't get it. So Bitmain is posting a S7 pic on Z9 product page? The pic I posted is from Z9 product page.
https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020180503154806494uGcSyiu806FD

[madmartyk]

I wonder how long they run them for testing.  Maybe a week, day, a few hours?

I don't know, most of mine have been clean and new/like new condition.  So I am pretty sure they aren't "testing" all of them in the manner people think, but clearly they are running and selling some of the miners as new that were clearly mining before they shipped them.  So we cannot generalize some examples to be proof that all are done this way. 

Running for few hours/days doesn't accumulate as much dust
At least, clean off the dust on product picture itself.
https://file.bitmain.com/shop-image-storage/product/2018/05/03/17/7dc1ee64-13ab-441d-8047-ca5b1603a0f8.png

You can tell the model, that could be an S7 (that were sold on Alibaba).  I bought some silverfish on Ali-Express that just dirty as hell when they arrived.

I didn't get it. So Bitmain is posting a S7 pic on Z9 product page? The pic I posted is from Z9 product page.
https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020180503154806494uGcSyiu806FD

Sorry My bad.  Thought it was a random pic.

[Sandal_Hat]

Bitcoin gold just got attacked by 51%. Still think gpu is safe?

How's that even related to GPU?

GPU cannot secure the coin well enough, thats why need asics. It could easily be a bunch of asics that took over the coin lol. And if it is secured by GPU again, asics can easily take over it again. Asics are just too much stronger.

[hashtag_coin]

Sounds quite interesting. Looking forward to this.

[crypto-hype]

Bitcoin gold just got attacked by 51%. Still think gpu is safe?

How's that even related to GPU?

GPU cannot secure the coin well enough, thats why need asics. It could easily be a bunch of asics that took over the coin lol. And if it is secured by GPU again, asics can easily take over it again. Asics are just too much stronger.

just wait for ProgPOW algo

[dmwardjr]

Bitcoin gold just got attacked by 51%. Still think gpu is safe?

How's that even related to GPU?

GPU cannot secure the coin well enough, thats why need asics. It could easily be a bunch of asics that took over the coin lol. And if it is secured by GPU again, asics can easily take over it again. Asics are just too much stronger.

A normal misconception by newbies.

You fail to give developers of new algorithms enough credit.  You'll find out soon and have yourself a doorstop soon enough.  

Meet PROG Proof of Work:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6B-ZCyP6K8&t=3s

[NetfetMiningCompany]

For someone who claims to be so smart, you sure act like an idiot. I dont know how many times you can keep repeating the same bile, but its just beyond sad at this point. My 3 year old acts more mature then you do.

[dmwardjr]

For someone who claims to be so smart, you sure act like an idiot. I dont know how many times you can keep repeating the same bile, but its just beyond sad at this point.

As long as others keep repeating the same thing without reading previous posts.

[NetfetMiningCompany]

Im sure if you ask my 3 year old nicely, she can show you how to act like an adult.

[dmwardjr]

Im sure if you ask my 3 year old nicely, she can show you how to act like an adult.

You might want to ask her yourself.

IGNORED once again; seeing how you want to act like a 3 year old.

[NetfetMiningCompany]

lol. Such a child you are. Its cool though. I hope you actually do ignore me this time. You already proved you arent a man of your word. So I doubt you did.

[dmwardjr]

Hate to say it, but my opinion is formed because the main players dont even see it as revolutionary right now. They want other things. Its just not as a big as people want it to be. Maybe in a few years. This is why Bitmain dominates. There just isnt enough interest from other companies. Its funny how others perceive me as this ASIC pushing shill when all im speaking is the truth. Amazing isnt it . I just dont understand the thought that GPU will take over. There still only 2 companies designing architecture for video cards where ASIC chips are being developed by more companies every day. All of the other GPU manufacturers outside of AMD and Nvidia are sitting on their hands waiting to buy the next schematic. How can this possibly sustain mining. Its just been Polaris and Pascal for years. Its a clear sign that the industry is shifting. One could say the ASIC designers like Texas Instruments are the true pioneers of the industry creating machines designed for the purpose. There is literally no one else aside from the few ASIC pioneers that are pushing the mining side of design forward. These chips are marvels of engineering.

So, more or less, you are "implying," surrender to Sir BITMAIN {Giving them full control of mining and trading speculation as a result} because they supposedly "care about crypto" and it's going somewhere?  Since, AMD and NVIDIA may not publicly support crypto in your eyes?  That's FAR from the truth!  I prefer de-centralized mining not controlled by one manufacturer.

Was on break.  Going back downstairs to the mining room remodel.

Later...

[NetfetMiningCompany]

LOL. So you didnt ignore me.....again.....Such integrity you have. Man of your word you are.

[dmwardjr]

1 btc ^ this post is something ridiculous and completely off the point. Cant see it because its ignored  Roll Eyes Even though this guy said I was an idiot and ignored me LOL.  I thought you ignored me buddy. I dont think hes capable of having a civil conversation anymore. You really need help man. If you were a respected community member here, you clearly dont act like it now. Pity. Enjoy ranting to no one. IT must suck to have people block and ban you all the time when you try and express yourself. Id like to stay and chat but you're a total dick DM. I wish everyone else a good night.

I unignored you when you calmed down and finally began to communicate.  Is there a problem?  Have I not been civil?  What's the problem now?  We've been sitting here having some communication gains; I make one comment [You may or may not be able to refute] and this is how you respond back? "I thought you ignored me?"  Instead of answering a simple question?

Quote:  "So, more or less, you are "implying," surrender to Sir BITMAIN {Giving them full control of mining and trading speculation as a result} because they supposedly "care about crypto" and it's going somewhere?  Since, AMD and NVIDIA may not publicly support crypto in your eyes?  That's FAR from the truth!  I prefer de-centralized mining not controlled by one manufacturer."

Have you now decided I've made a valid point and you cannot refute it so now back to "personal" stuff?  I hope I don't have to click ignore AGAIN and come back in a while and "un-ignore" to see if you have calmed down.

Yup, he edits his post [Which I quoted] and resorts to name calling cause he cannot refute my last comment; doesn't even want to attempt to answer it.  ROFL... Back to ignore....  Geeeeeeez

Actually, Zcash Forum was the first sight EVER to ban me.   EVER...  And "unjustly" I might add.  My Wife and I both were banned and she did absolutely nothing wrong.  They assumed her account was me when in fact it wasn't.  She was pissed what "root" (moderator) did to me and wanted to create an account to talk to him about POS in order to trap him in his own folly.  However, he stopped answering her questions cause he may have seen where it was leading; which was to prove his folly.  We were both banned simply because we were laying down many truth bombs and exposing the conflict of interest on Zooko's part.

Also, if you want to imply you are "Nobody," go right ahead.


Later....

[NetfetMiningCompany]

Still waiting for you to hit that ignore button like you said you are going to.

[dmwardjr]

Because the logical approach to finding a resolution is to just fork, fork, fork, fork, fork.Damn a new machine? fork fork fork.....So they going to fork again after the next machine? Maybe? 3rd....Nope. Its a waste of money and time and pointless venture. People CANNOT stop evolution of the computer.

Come on now, Net... Really bro?  Let's THINK through this logically how about it?

Several PoW coins are actively researching PROG PoW RIGHT NOW as we speak.  I "KNOW" this because I'm in direct communication with developers:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6B-ZCyP6K8&t=1s

It's not logical to draw conclusions without gathering EVERYTHING on a subject first.  No?  So, please don't assume the worst and simply give up.

What you FAIL to point out is there is also an EVOLUTION IN SOFTWARE:  Same video to point out "evolution"  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6B-ZCyP6K8&t=1s

[NetfetMiningCompany]

lol...So sad. I dont know how anyone could have any respect for what you have to say.

[dmwardjr]

Every industry that gets popular gets dominated by the major players. Crypto is no different. If a coin is GPU only, then people will just fill up warehouses with GPU. This whole idea that one type of computer over the other causes a centralization issue, is a far fetch argument. Its not like all major GPU coins dont have 1000s of gpus pointed to it by a single person. A FB admin in a group im in produces a few hundred k a month with his properties. All GPU. How is he not centralizing things? There really isnt a difference. The people with money own every industry. Bitmain doesnt own all of the hash power for every coin they make machines for.

When a manufacturer can earn more by not selling the product they manufacture, they will sell only as much hardware as they cannot put into service for themselves (or whatever they need for momentary cash flow). That is their greatest incentive - and the monopolizing tendency is relentless.

The large-scale miner’s incentive aligns best with profit, and that’s only a shallow alignment to the broader goals of the Zcash project.

So, you prefer to compete with BITMAIN and its ASIC's rather than a few large DISTRIBUTED GPU farms here and there?

[NetfetMiningCompany]

So you are just going to increase your post history by spamming your already said posts? Such an adult you are! Still waiting on that ignore like you said you are going to do.