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June 26, 2018, 09:50:42 PM
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Yeah, you only had to pay 50% to get a batch-1 order submitted: but you needed to pay the other 50% before they'd ship it to you. Those long-tail people probably only sent half as a deposit... so had to go scrape up more BTC as soon as they saw other people were getting shipping notifications.
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June 26, 2018, 10:01:07 PM
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Yeah, you only had to pay 50% to get a batch-1 order submitted: but you needed to pay the other 50% before they'd ship it to you. Those long-tail people probably only sent half as a deposit... so had to go scrape up more BTC as soon as they saw other people were getting shipping notifications.

No, batch #1 customers were expeceted to pay in full. They probably honored a few orders that weren't paid in full right away, but the 50% option was not offered until batch #2.
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June 26, 2018, 10:32:01 PM
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Based on what I am seeing on my Z9 so far I am not that hopeful at this point it is going to ROI.  There must be some secret place everyone else is mining that is getting them great numbers.  So far I haven't seen it.  Just hoping it will keep earning like this for some time or there is no way to get ROI.  Bitmain tossing some crappy coupons at us was an insult.
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June 26, 2018, 10:53:56 PM
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Based on what I am seeing on my Z9 so far I am not that hopeful at this point it is going to ROI.  There must be some secret place everyone else is mining that is getting them great numbers.  So far I haven't seen it.  Just hoping it will keep earning like this for some time or there is no way to get ROI.  Bitmain tossing some crappy coupons at us was an insult.

Ya, the market is taking another dump today....in theory if prices rebound you'll be fine, if not, hey we bought when BTC was ~$9200/btc so consider the real price to be 35% less or about $1350 LOL - assuming you didn't have the btc on hand of course....otherwise prolly not gonna ROI.  I'm cool with a hard crash now, get lots of cheap cyrpto over the summer in time for another Dec swing.
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June 26, 2018, 11:14:36 PM
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Based on what I am seeing on my Z9 so far I am not that hopeful at this point it is going to ROI.  There must be some secret place everyone else is mining that is getting them great numbers.  So far I haven't seen it.  Just hoping it will keep earning like this for some time or there is no way to get ROI.  Bitmain tossing some crappy coupons at us was an insult.

I'm not sure what results you are getting but if I can sell my mined ZEC at .025 (lower than current price) then based on how much ZEC I mined in the last 24 hours (0.17894627) I only need 50 days to make back the 0.21924398 BTC that the miner cost.  I know all of those variables will look worse over time but starting at a 50 day ROI is pretty spectacular in today's hardware market.  I strongly suspect that even a very pessimistic view of prices and hashrate increase should still yield at least a break even.
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June 26, 2018, 11:43:25 PM
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Based on what I am seeing on my Z9 so far I am not that hopeful at this point it is going to ROI.  There must be some secret place everyone else is mining that is getting them great numbers.  So far I haven't seen it.  Just hoping it will keep earning like this for some time or there is no way to get ROI.  Bitmain tossing some crappy coupons at us was an insult.

I'm not sure what results you are getting but if I can sell my mined ZEC at .025 (lower than current price) then based on how much ZEC I mined in the last 24 hours (0.17894627) I only need 50 days to make back the 0.21924398 BTC that the miner cost.  I know all of those variables will look worse over time but starting at a 50 day ROI is pretty spectacular in today's hardware market.  I strongly suspect that even a very pessimistic view of prices and hashrate increase should still yield at least a break even.

Agreed.
Unless you were paying fiat, or planning on converting from BTC to fiat, then you need to consider ROI of the .21 BTC it cost back in batch 1. Not explicitly $2,000 in today's market.

In any case, I am all-in on ZENcash. Very cheap at the moment for a previously consistent rank #80 - #99 CMC.
1 * Z9 overclocked = 1.5-1.8 ZEN per day it seems.
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June 26, 2018, 11:49:20 PM
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No.  None of those are likely to be actual batch two orders.  As I pointed out in a previous post an hour or so ago, the one where I linked to that list in the first place, those are probably just batch one orders where the transaction did not get confirmed until recently which means someone didn't include enough fee so they were stuck in the mempool.  There's no indication that they are batch two orders.

They are announcing as "latest rounds" on their new Twitter. Orders are first paid, first shipped and they will ship out early if available. My batch 2 order was paid and confirmed on June 5. Others buying batch 2 may have only done the 50% down, which doesn't guarantee you any shipping until fully paid. I highly doubt there were over 100 orders that were waiting over 4 weeks to confirm after batch 1 was sold out. Guess I'll find out soon enough. Getting my batch 2 early would be nice since I got fucked on batch 1.
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June 27, 2018, 12:03:53 AM
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No.  None of those are likely to be actual batch two orders.  As I pointed out in a previous post an hour or so ago, the one where I linked to that list in the first place, those are probably just batch one orders where the transaction did not get confirmed until recently which means someone didn't include enough fee so they were stuck in the mempool.  There's no indication that they are batch two orders.

They are announcing as "latest rounds" on their new Twitter. Orders are first paid, first shipped and they will ship out early if available. My batch 2 order was paid and confirmed on June 5. Others buying batch 2 may have only done the 50% down, which doesn't guarantee you any shipping until fully paid. I highly doubt there were over 100 orders that were waiting over 4 weeks to confirm after batch 1 was sold out. Guess I'll find out soon enough. Getting my batch 2 early would be nice since I got fucked on batch 1.

I bought a batch two with the coupon.  My paid date\time is 2018-06-05 23:52:57 which would have placed it inside the dates on that last list of shipped miners.  So if they were really shipping batch two, I would have been in that list and I wasn't (sounds like you would have been too).  My specific date\time is not in the list and I didn't get any email saying it had shipped.  Whatever the reason those people had such delayed paid date\time I think we can be pretty certain they are all still batch 1 orders.
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June 27, 2018, 02:54:56 AM
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Screw Bitmain...this is how you get a 2 in 1 miner by yourself Cheesy

Might have some fun stuff for you guys soon (I figured out the voltage controller which is how I hit 800mhz stable btw).


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FutureBit Moonlander 2 USB Scrypt Stick Miner: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2125643.0
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June 27, 2018, 03:57:52 AM
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(I figured out the voltage controller which is how I hit 800mhz stable btw).


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June 27, 2018, 02:51:39 PM
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No.  None of those are likely to be actual batch two orders.  As I pointed out in a previous post an hour or so ago, the one where I linked to that list in the first place, those are probably just batch one orders where the transaction did not get confirmed until recently which means someone didn't include enough fee so they were stuck in the mempool.  There's no indication that they are batch two orders.

They are announcing as "latest rounds" on their new Twitter. Orders are first paid, first shipped and they will ship out early if available. My batch 2 order was paid and confirmed on June 5. Others buying batch 2 may have only done the 50% down, which doesn't guarantee you any shipping until fully paid. I highly doubt there were over 100 orders that were waiting over 4 weeks to confirm after batch 1 was sold out. Guess I'll find out soon enough. Getting my batch 2 early would be nice since I got fucked on batch 1.

I bought a batch two with the coupon.  My paid date\time is 2018-06-05 23:52:57 which would have placed it inside the dates on that last list of shipped miners.  So if they were really shipping batch two, I would have been in that list and I wasn't (sounds like you would have been too).  My specific date\time is not in the list and I didn't get any email saying it had shipped.  Whatever the reason those people had such delayed paid date\time I think we can be pretty certain they are all still batch 1 orders.

They addressed this specifically on twitter: https://twitter.com/Antminer_main
All batch 1 so far.
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June 27, 2018, 02:58:16 PM
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If I had a couple $350 or $400 coupons I would get a couple mini's.  But I want more then the $250s they gave us.

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June 27, 2018, 06:44:16 PM
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whats the best way to power this z9 miner? I have a apw3++ and I can plug it to 120 volt or 240 volt.  Which one is best with just one z9 mini?  The z9 mini does not use much power so the power efficiency drops off fast if your running below 50 percent of the apw3++ capacity.

  Would 120 volt be better since it maxes out at 1000 watts? 240 volt is 1800 watts and using a z9 mini makes it way below efficiency curve? is this correct way of thinking or no?

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June 27, 2018, 06:49:10 PM
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whats the best way to power this z9 miner? I have a apw3++ and I can plug it to 120 volt or 240 volt.  Which one is best with just one z9 mini?  The z9 mini does not use much power so the power efficiency drops off fast if your running below 50 percent of the apw3++ capacity.

  Would 120 volt be better since it maxes out at 1000 watts? 240 volt is 1800 watts and using a z9 mini makes it way below efficiency curve? is this correct way of thinking or no?



120v is fine.   

Elec companies bill you based on watts used, not volts.   There is very little difference between watts used at 120v vs 240v.   Doubt you could even measure the difference it would be almost identical.



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June 27, 2018, 06:50:23 PM
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230v is more efficient it seems.



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June 27, 2018, 06:52:13 PM
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What does the efficiency number indicate?

I run tons of stuff on 120v and 240v, don't notice much of a difference in efficiency in anything.
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June 27, 2018, 06:57:18 PM
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What does the efficiency number indicate?

I run tons of stuff on 120v and 240v, don't notice much of a difference in efficiency in anything.
Hi there!
That curve tells that to generate as an example 360w(30A) @ 12v, the PSU will consume ~397w at 230v Line, or 404w @ 110v.

230v: 360 / 0.905 = ~397w
110v: 360 / 0.891 = ~404w

Small difference, but its still more efficient :-)

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June 27, 2018, 07:17:16 PM
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Based on what I am seeing on my Z9 so far I am not that hopeful at this point it is going to ROI.  There must be some secret place everyone else is mining that is getting them great numbers.  So far I haven't seen it.  Just hoping it will keep earning like this for some time or there is no way to get ROI.  Bitmain tossing some crappy coupons at us was an insult.

I'm not sure what results you are getting but if I can sell my mined ZEC at .025 (lower than current price) then based on how much ZEC I mined in the last 24 hours (0.17894627) I only need 50 days to make back the 0.21924398 BTC that the miner cost.  I know all of those variables will look worse over time but starting at a 50 day ROI is pretty spectacular in today's hardware market.  I strongly suspect that even a very pessimistic view of prices and hashrate increase should still yield at least a break even.

I am on flypool and not getting that kind of number.  Where are you mining?
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June 27, 2018, 11:47:27 PM
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How can you find the “public” IP of your Z9? I need it to change the payout threshold on Flypool.
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June 27, 2018, 11:56:50 PM
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How can you find the “public” IP of your Z9? I need it to change the payout threshold on Flypool.

It's your IP address.

whatismyip.com
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