Dwarf FPGA – the anti-ASIC

[Mike011]

This forum should have some kind of mechanism to protect the users from these scams. This way bitcointalk and it`s moderators are accomplices in the scam.

[dragonmike]

This forum should have some kind of mechanism to protect the users from these scams. This way bitcointalk and it`s moderators are accomplices in the scam.

I like that approach. Let's all get scammed and blame the forums for it! It's like a capital protected structured investment! What could possibly go wrong?

[MagicSmoker]

This forum should have some kind of mechanism to protect the users from these scams. This way bitcointalk and it`s moderators are accomplices in the scam.

The forum already does have a mechanism to protect against scams: the loud and frequent warnings from high ranked members who have seen this play out many times before. If you didn't heed their warnings, well, you can't say you weren't warned in the first place.

There is also a legal reason for not attempting to block /possible/ scams - if the forum is not 100% effective at blocking them they could be held liable for implicitly backing any that slipped through (because plaintiffs would argue they thought the scam was legit since the forum didn't get rid of it).

But, IANAL, so... don't rely on that one for your defense.

[Mike011]

This forum should have some kind of mechanism to protect the users from these scams. This way bitcointalk and it`s moderators are accomplices in the scam.

I like that approach. Let's all get scammed and blame the forums for it! It's like a capital protected structured investment! What could possibly go wrong?

You can play dumb if you like and keep that semi philosophical attitude. The truth is that people got scammed and this forum let (by taking no action - helped) that person scam others. If there is no sufficient proof of existence of said device, thread locked, person banned. What we have here is a 40+ pages scammy thread.

[suchmoon]

This forum should have some kind of mechanism to protect the users from these scams. This way bitcointalk and it`s moderators are accomplices in the scam.

I like that approach. Let's all get scammed and blame the forums for it! It's like a capital protected structured investment! What could possibly go wrong?

You can play dumb if you like and keep that semi philosophical attitude. The truth is that people got scammed and this forum let (by taking no action - helped) that person scam others. If there is no sufficient proof of existence of said device, thread locked, person banned. What we have here is a 40+ pages scammy thread.

And you're bumping this thread trying to deflect blame. The scammer scams, not the forum. There were plenty of warnings that a locked thread would have prevented from being posted. If someone decides to send money to crooks despite all the red flags and warnings and common sense - that's not really a problem with the forum. That's like blaming the post office for sending you the lottery win scams.

But if you would like to propose a solution (a real one, with implementation details and all) do it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=24.0

[oomurashin]

GAME OVER

[Dhino]

GAME OVER

Yes game over. A guy just become millionaire by doing a very small scam.

[cryptotore]

There is no point blaming the forum/others for our greed, man up and take it! 
Its not the forum admin's job to protect your money!

That being said, it would be nice if we tried to make it harder for the scammer to cash out.
Any point in releasing BTC addresses? I guess it isnt possible to report scams somewhere so that the exchanges can be aware of funds coming from X wallet?

[gvb]

You can play dumb if you like and keep that semi philosophical attitude. The truth is that people got scammed and this forum let (by taking no action - helped) that person scam others. If there is no sufficient proof of existence of said device, thread locked, person banned. What we have here is a 40+ pages scammy thread.

I don't think the forum can be held responsible for people willing to buy a cat in a bag even when being warned continiously.

On the other hand why would moderators put a lock on something that might still be something real since it's still in "production process"?
if it's real some will review it as valid hardware if not or if it doesn't arrive I guess they will lock it and mark it as scam.

[melpheos]

I don't think the forum can be held responsible for people willing to buy a cat in a bag even when being warned continiously.

On the other hand why would moderators put a lock on something that might still be something real since it's still in "production process"?
if it's real some will review it as valid hardware if not or if it doesn't arrive I guess they will lock it and mark it as scam.

Indeed, a one week period should be more than enough from now on to know exactly the situation "scam or not scam"
however : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz6buvT87nX-NuEkfcrNQGg
This channel does not exist...
Hmmm removing the videos is one thing, removing an empty channel is another...
Also ALL pictures hosted on mega plateform are now gone. This is also a pointless act if all of this was legit.

I just don't understand why they kept replying to email even after the sale was closed

[Mike011]

But if you would like to propose a solution (a real one, with implementation details and all) do it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=24.0

Sure, here it is - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4542153.0

[Hueristic]

This forum should have some kind of mechanism to protect the users from these scams. This way bitcointalk and it`s moderators are accomplices in the scam.

Yeah lets let the gov regulate it here that way we know we're safe.

[gvb]

I just don't understand why they kept replying to email even after the sale was closed

to keep the faith high?

I suggest you collect all info/evidence and put it in a file. if your toy never arrives file a complaint at your country's cyber crime unit.
They are obligated to investigate it (check out the domain name registration, mail headers, IP addresses etc)

If it will ever lead to a payback I don't know, it might reach a dead end soon if they used vpn's or other ways to hide actual IP info.
If you don't do it chances are even less.

[tomwrx]

It's so easy to scam you people. That's why scams will never end. With every successful scam, scammers are just encouraged to make a new one.
Stop making scammers rich and think with clear head for once. 

[melpheos]

It's so easy to scam you people. That's why scams will never end. With every successful scam, scammers are just encouraged to make a new one.
Stop making scammers rich and think with clear head for once.  

Oh well at least I should receive two BCU1525 in August, this should make up for this loss if the market doesn't continue to tumble down

[vapourminer]

Oh well at least I should receive two BCU1525 in August, this should make up for this loss if the market doesn't continue to tumble down

keyword: should.

thats if allminer/mineority isnt a scam too. not that i personally think it is but they could have supplyline problems, hardware/software delays, whatever. roi? who knows. maybe kiss 3.6k usd goodbye, maybe not. always dyor

full disclosure: i ordered a bcu1525/16gig. but this dwarfminer? geez, was not tempted in the slightest, stuff was so out of whack.

[gvb]

there's another thread about an fpga with similar price & specs as far as I could tell as the dwarf.

the price drop depending on orders sound logical but can be another lure to attract buyers.

if that is a real project or not, I don't know.

[Searing]

there's another thread about an fpga with similar price & specs as far as I could tell as the dwarf.

the price drop depending on orders sound logical but can be another lure to attract buyers.

if that is a real project or not, I don't know.

link...not that I'm going to believe them either without someone from the forum testing a unit... with a legit video

and demo to boot

[gvb]

@searing,

here you go...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3073933.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4493669.0

I only bumped on it today tho.

[arm_race]

@searing,

here you go...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3073933.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4493669.0

I only bumped on it today tho.

that's my threads 
we will send test boards to members for testing once available, keep my fingers crossed