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February 06, 2014, 08:20:35 AM
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quote EU = "the West" = Obama's puppet?

and that isn't true?

It is. Does any one think that Merkel or Cameron has the power to even oppose Obama from his decisions?


maybe the last one who is trying to have indepentment  EU politics is Jacques Chirac

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February 06, 2014, 10:04:56 AM
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   Hi. I live in Ukraine and oppose Yanukovych. Whatever it was, but this does not give people the power to live. People are just trying to survive and exist. All financial flows are concentrated in their hands, corruption terrible police real bandits. Beggarly wages and pensions. I know that in Europe, too, is not sugar, but we live in this way can no longer.
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February 06, 2014, 10:44:44 AM
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   Hi. I live in Ukraine and oppose Yanukovych. Whatever it was, but this does not give people the power to live. People are just trying to survive and exist. All financial flows are concentrated in their hands, corruption terrible police real bandits. Beggarly wages and pensions. I know that in Europe, too, is not sugar, but we live in this way can no longer.
   We do not want war. We want to change. Support us please. PayPal MelnikSergiy@i.ua
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Do you think that everything will be fine once Ukraine is given the EU membership?
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February 06, 2014, 10:06:56 PM
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[T]he disclosure represents a potentially big breach in security, which had been tightened at U.S. embassies following the WikiLeaks disclosures of several years ago…

The leak appears to be a smear campaign aimed to split the EU and U.S., who have been critical of the Ukrainian government’s handling of the more than two months of anti-government protests. The tape is also likely to fuel Russia’s claims the U.S. and EU are manipulating and even funding the protest movement in Ukraine…

[The unknown YouTube user who uploaded the clip] posted a second audio clip that appeared on YouTube of a conversation in German presumably between Helga Schmid, deputy secretary general of the EU’s External Action Service (EAS), and EU Ambassador to Ukraine Jan Tombinski. The two voices discuss how the EU is seen by the U.S. as being “soft” on Ukraine.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSxaa-67yGM
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February 07, 2014, 01:02:50 AM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26072281

Things are getting clear....

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The alleged conversation between Ms Nuland and the US Ambassador to Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt, appeared on YouTube on Thursday. She says: "So that would be great, I think, to help glue this thing and have the UN help glue it and you know..." she then uses the graphic swear word about the EU. The male replies: "We've got to do something to make it stick together, because you can be pretty sure that if it does start to gain altitude the Russians will be working behind the scenes to try to torpedo it."

Are the Ukrainians too stupid to understand this?
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February 07, 2014, 10:53:33 AM
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Do you think that everything will be fine once Ukraine is given the EU membership?

   I took off my rose-colored glasses for a long time. Yanukovych is not pro-Russian or pro-European. He works for the Donetsk clan and oligarchy. Eastern regions voted for him in the elections. Now they regret it. He squeezes all the juice out of the people.
   The same standard of living in Russia are 2 times higher. In Ukraine, people simply surviving. I think that the movement of Ukraine towards Europe is proper. Whatever it was, get any worse.
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February 07, 2014, 01:17:45 PM
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Meanwhile in Ukraine... World Socialism(Democracy) overthrows the government. The Ukraine is becoming the Region of the New World Socialist Totalitarian Government.

Ukrainians are already taxed to death and complete slaves of the current government. Now the world socialist international(U.S, U.N.,E.U.) just wants to integrate the country into the world slavery at the international scale.

Know the truth:
http://www.hourofthetime.com/wordpresstest/?page_id=7576
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February 07, 2014, 03:47:05 PM
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   Hi. I live in Ukraine and oppose Yanukovych. Whatever it was, but this does not give people the power to live. People are just trying to survive and exist. All financial flows are concentrated in their hands, corruption terrible police real bandits. Beggarly wages and pensions. I know that in Europe, too, is not sugar, but we live in this way can no longer.
   We do not want war. We want to change. Support us please. PayPal MelnikSergiy@i.ua
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Do you think that everything will be fine once Ukraine is given the EU membership?

How about you take a holiday and go there and see how "fine" everybody is doing right now?

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February 07, 2014, 04:00:17 PM
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Vladimir Bukovsky: EU = USSR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m41Tdl5mvdg
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February 07, 2014, 04:08:53 PM
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Vladimir Bukovsky: EU = USSR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m41Tdl5mvdg

Yeah right =)))))
The EU is feared by both russia on one side and the US and their pissboys the uk on the other, listening to their puppets it's a waste of time.



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February 09, 2014, 06:05:23 PM
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Ukraine is at the level of the African countries in many respects. It should not be so.
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February 09, 2014, 06:19:09 PM
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The Ukraine should adopt American principles of year 1775: Constitution Republic with the Bill of Rights. When the people will be armed (2nd Amendment) the government would never ever grow to the point of Yanukovich dictatorship.
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February 10, 2014, 11:42:32 AM
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   Hi. I live in Ukraine and oppose Yanukovych. Whatever it was, but this does not give people the power to live. People are just trying to survive and exist. All financial flows are concentrated in their hands, corruption terrible police real bandits. Beggarly wages and pensions. I know that in Europe, too, is not sugar, but we live in this way can no longer.
   We do not want war. We want to change. Support us please. PayPal MelnikSergiy@i.ua
My page on facebook www.facebook.com/sergiy.melnik.75 Thank you.

Do you think that everything will be fine once Ukraine is given the EU membership?

How about you take a holiday and go there and see how "fine" everybody is doing right now?

I visited Greece and Cyprus last year. I know about the pleasures EU brought to those nations.
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February 10, 2014, 11:56:47 AM
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   Hi. I live in Ukraine and oppose Yanukovych. Whatever it was, but this does not give people the power to live. People are just trying to survive and exist. All financial flows are concentrated in their hands, corruption terrible police real bandits. Beggarly wages and pensions. I know that in Europe, too, is not sugar, but we live in this way can no longer.
   We do not want war. We want to change. Support us please. PayPal MelnikSergiy@i.ua
My page on facebook www.facebook.com/sergiy.melnik.75 Thank you.

Do you think that everything will be fine once Ukraine is given the EU membership?

How about you take a holiday and go there and see how "fine" everybody is doing right now?

I visited Greece and Cyprus last year. I know about the pleasures EU brought to those nations.

Greece?  lols ,
We're talking about a country who is in permanent debt for over two centuries ? How many times did this country went bankrupt?
How much money did they receive form the EU and they just wasted around like they always do?

How about you compare Poland or the Czech Republic , before/after the help from the EU.

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February 10, 2014, 12:33:30 PM
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What's the current situation in Ukraine? Have things gotten more stable or is it still raging in there?
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February 10, 2014, 12:37:09 PM
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What's the current situation in Ukraine? Have things gotten more stable or is it still raging in there?

Not even close to stable.
But also I don't think it will escalate to something worse.

It's currently a standstill and those with more perseverance will probably win.

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February 10, 2014, 07:46:30 PM
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The government does not want to make concessions, we do not want to leave. The standoff continues.
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February 11, 2014, 05:04:57 AM
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The government does not want to make concessions, we do not want to leave. The standoff continues.

Meanwhile the economy collapses and millions lose their jobs. No one gains.
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February 11, 2014, 10:38:08 AM
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The government does not want to make concessions, we do not want to leave. The standoff continues.

Meanwhile the economy collapses and millions lose their jobs. No one gains.

I see from your post that you're a bit , a bit too much pro russian.
Most of the persons that protest have nothing to lose , the collapse you're talking about already happened years ago and the way Ukraine is governed , nothing better will come out of it, only worse.

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February 11, 2014, 11:04:05 AM
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The government does not want to make concessions, we do not want to leave. The standoff continues.

Meanwhile the economy collapses and millions lose their jobs. No one gains.

I see from your post that you're a bit , a bit too much pro russian.
Most of the persons that protest have nothing to lose , the collapse you're talking about already happened years ago and the way Ukraine is governed , nothing better will come out of it, only worse.
Joining a pro EU protest would not make this any better...
Remember: EU is just a slave of the US.

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