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April 14, 2014, 03:10:10 AM
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Ukrainian Police Special Forces are switching sides and go pro-russian.

Even yesterday a lot of soldiers were defecting near Slavyansk.
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April 14, 2014, 03:15:57 AM
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USA has never been an empire...

If you include all of the puppet Gov's, the USA is one of the largest empires the world has ever seen.

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April 14, 2014, 06:16:05 AM
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What for "pro-russian"?
They are Russians, citizens of Ukraine, and they are for federalization of unitarian State.

I agree that terminology correction is in order. We are falling into Western media propaganda trap. Evasive actions!

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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April 14, 2014, 07:18:58 AM
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It's funny to see multiculture & unitarian state in 21 century, it's like a showpiece from the museum. I wonder, why this archaic monster didn't collapsed 20 years before.
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April 14, 2014, 08:00:57 AM
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In recent news (calm before the storm):

Kiev must stop war on Ukrainians – Churkin
http://rt.com/news/security-council-ukraine-violence-312/
Vitaly Churkin makes the last, and rather strong-worded plea in UN to the West to call of their Kiev lapdogs and to not escalate make war on Ukrainians. I think this is the last try at diplomacy and US is not listening.

Kiev coup enacts the state of "Special Operaion" in Donetsk:
http://www.interfax.ru/world/371377

Protester in in the East of Ukrain refuse to accept the conditions of the ultimatum.
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/04/14/n_6081293.shtml
They say that far from accepting, more and more people come to the streets, joining them. Christian Orthodox clerics also joined them, giving their blessings.

And the West escalates Russophobia:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-13/putin-21-year-quest-to-be-guardian-of-russians-began-in-estonia.html

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April 14, 2014, 08:17:27 AM
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Ukrainian Police Special Forces are switching sides and go pro-russian.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEdkulVmDG8

Nice propaganda, does we need to recall that all weapons used by pro-russian are given by Russia ?
Since when using Gun is democratic ?

The most funny is ... what will think all poor russians citizen living in russia with no work and living ... seeing billions going to crimea to help them this so called russian community ??
Russia want to cut Gaz.. ok ... cut it .... Russia with no selling Gaz ... country will go back in early 90'
Hoo and does Russia has paid something to all boat/weapons seized in crimea ?
Russia has nothing to care about russian citizen ....

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April 14, 2014, 08:27:52 AM
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Since when using Gun is democratic ?
Ask maidummies, since when using guns, molotov cocktails or tear gas is democratic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCmaZ2wSNi8

Ask them, since when freedom of speech is forbidden in the parliament.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlKMVFtPsFI#t=49

Or you prefer to ignore some inconvenient moments, recalling them only when it's convenient? Well, it's called doublethink. Smiley
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April 14, 2014, 08:38:40 AM
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The most funny is ... what will think all poor russians citizen living in russia with no work and living....

Have you been to Russia?
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April 14, 2014, 09:02:14 AM
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The most funny is ... what will think all poor russians citizen living in russia with no work and living....

Have you been to Russia?

Yes and i remember having seen only rich people there .... no poor and all happy citizen.
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April 14, 2014, 09:06:37 AM
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Do I see a tiny little warning here?
http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20140414/1003816481.html

Russia conducted successful test of a new intercontinental ballistic rocket, which was shot from Plesetsk and arrive in Kamchatka, hitting the designated target.

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“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
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April 14, 2014, 09:11:07 AM
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^about the poor people on the eastern europe and so on

most of them are labelled poor because they have 0 income on a bank account on the other hand most of them live on the rural parts and they got 1 cow, 2 pigs, 20 or so chickens 1 horse some sheep some land and cover the food needs by working the field and cut wood to heat their homes hand make some clothes from sheep wool etc tec basically if they can work they live from their work

on the other hand poor people on the west they have a flat they need to pay all the bills (mortgage) buy all the food and if they have 0 income they need to ask for charity food or starve so if nobody employ them they cant work and cant have a decent life



The most funny is ... what will think all poor russians citizen living in russia with no work and living....

Have you been to Russia?

Yes and i remember having seen only rich people there .... no poor and all happy citizen.


Los desesperados publican que lo inventó el rey que rabió, porque todo son en el rabias y mas rabias, disgustos y mas disgustos, pezares y mas pezares; si el que compra algunas partidas vé que baxan, rabia de haver comprado; si suben, rabia de que no compró mas; si compra, suben, vende, gana y buelan aun á mas alto precio del que ha vendido; rabia de que vendió por menor precio: si no compra ni vende y ván subiendo, rabia de que haviendo tenido impulsos de comprar, no llegó á lograr los impulsos; si van baxando, rabia de que, haviendo tenido amagos de vender, no se resolvió á gozar los amagos; si le dan algun consejo y acierta, rabia de que no se lo dieron antes; si yerra, rabia de que se lo dieron; con que todo son inquietudes, todo arrepentimientos, tododelirios, luchando siempre lo insufrible con lo feliz, lo indomito con lo tranquilo y lo rabioso con lo deleytable.
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April 14, 2014, 09:43:21 AM
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^about the poor people on the eastern europe and so on

most of them are labelled poor because they have 0 income on a bank account on the other hand most of them live on the rural parts and they got 1 cow, 2 pigs, 20 or so chickens 1 horse some sheep some land and cover the food needs by working the field and cut wood to heat their homes hand make some clothes from sheep wool etc tec basically if they can work they live from their work

on the other hand poor people on the west they have a flat they need to pay all the bills (mortgage) buy all the food and if they have 0 income they need to ask for charity food or starve so if nobody employ them they cant work and cant have a decent life



The most funny is ... what will think all poor russians citizen living in russia with no work and living....

Have you been to Russia?

Yes and i remember having seen only rich people there .... no poor and all happy citizen.


If you;re going to tell me that poor people in russia are living better than the rest of the western world I think you really need to get over that kgb brainwashing Smiley


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April 14, 2014, 10:15:51 AM
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Russia conducted successful test of a new intercontinental ballistic rocket, which was shot from Plesetsk and arrive in Kamchatka, hitting the designated target.

The NATO has already stated that their much publicized missile shield is incapable of stopping the sophisticated Russian ICBMs. Now this development will again add to their insecurities. 
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April 14, 2014, 10:21:35 AM
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Russian Minister of Foreign Affairs Lavrov asks for an explanation from the US regarding CIA chief's visit to Kiev.
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/04/14/n_6081745.shtml

Turchinov said that he is not against an all-Ukrainian referendum regarding the organisation of the state, and in the same time hopes the citizens of Donbass will cooperate with Kiev in disbanding the protesting citizens of Donbass.
http://rbcdaily.ru/world/562949991164253

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April 14, 2014, 11:59:34 AM
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If you;re going to tell me that poor people in russia are living better than the rest of the western world I think you really need to get over that kgb brainwashing Smiley

atm I live on spain, you ?

also the better term is relative, living from charity food is not better because it mean dependence 

Los desesperados publican que lo inventó el rey que rabió, porque todo son en el rabias y mas rabias, disgustos y mas disgustos, pezares y mas pezares; si el que compra algunas partidas vé que baxan, rabia de haver comprado; si suben, rabia de que no compró mas; si compra, suben, vende, gana y buelan aun á mas alto precio del que ha vendido; rabia de que vendió por menor precio: si no compra ni vende y ván subiendo, rabia de que haviendo tenido impulsos de comprar, no llegó á lograr los impulsos; si van baxando, rabia de que, haviendo tenido amagos de vender, no se resolvió á gozar los amagos; si le dan algun consejo y acierta, rabia de que no se lo dieron antes; si yerra, rabia de que se lo dieron; con que todo son inquietudes, todo arrepentimientos, tododelirios, luchando siempre lo insufrible con lo feliz, lo indomito con lo tranquilo y lo rabioso con lo deleytable.
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April 14, 2014, 12:02:19 PM
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If you;re going to tell me that poor people in russia are living better than the rest of the western world I think you really need to get over that kgb brainwashing Smiley

atm I live on spain, you ?

Romania and i've been to both spain and russia. And in Russia case both before the 90 and after 2000

And you can still live in spain and be a commie Smiley. Look at bryant here , he's from south asia and he is taking so much stance in this Smiley


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April 14, 2014, 12:36:59 PM
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And you can still live in spain and be a commie Smiley. Look at bryant here , he's from south asia and he is taking so much stance in this Smiley

The current EU / US governments are more leftist and pro-banker, compared to the Putin regime in Russia. So I should be calling you the Commie. And the Communist Party of the Soviet Union was disbanded decades ago. The KPRF is very different compared to the Soviet Commie Party.
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April 14, 2014, 12:57:02 PM
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And you can still live in spain and be a commie Smiley. Look at bryant here , he's from south asia and he is taking so much stance in this Smiley

The current EU / US governments are more leftist and pro-banker, compared to the Putin regime in Russia. So I should be calling you the Commie. And the Communist Party of the Soviet Union was disbanded decades ago. The KPRF is very different compared to the Soviet Commie Party.

Somebody is not a commie if he lives in a communist country. When he talks like a commie , he's a commie Smiley.
I live in a country which is rulled by a party with deep connections to the former secret police before the 89'. So i think we're more communist than north korea under this aspect.

Btw , i love how you say those things so freely , like you have been there and lived in those countries and times for decades.

Even god is not that sure about those things. That's why we have such a messy bible.


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April 14, 2014, 02:22:18 PM
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And you can still live in spain and be a commie Smiley
i am not a commie lol

simply you doge my point that poor(unemployed) ppl in the west cant live without a job also they dont own any assets only liabilities if they dont get a job they are fucked and they dont have any land to grow some potatoes

the old romanian say apply to this "cand stai la bloc tai mata in loc de porc"

Los desesperados publican que lo inventó el rey que rabió, porque todo son en el rabias y mas rabias, disgustos y mas disgustos, pezares y mas pezares; si el que compra algunas partidas vé que baxan, rabia de haver comprado; si suben, rabia de que no compró mas; si compra, suben, vende, gana y buelan aun á mas alto precio del que ha vendido; rabia de que vendió por menor precio: si no compra ni vende y ván subiendo, rabia de que haviendo tenido impulsos de comprar, no llegó á lograr los impulsos; si van baxando, rabia de que, haviendo tenido amagos de vender, no se resolvió á gozar los amagos; si le dan algun consejo y acierta, rabia de que no se lo dieron antes; si yerra, rabia de que se lo dieron; con que todo son inquietudes, todo arrepentimientos, tododelirios, luchando siempre lo insufrible con lo feliz, lo indomito con lo tranquilo y lo rabioso con lo deleytable.
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April 14, 2014, 02:25:34 PM
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And you can still live in spain and be a commie Smiley
i am not a commie lol

simply you doge my point that poor(unemployed) ppl in the west cant live without a job also they dont own any assets only liabilities if they dont get a job they are fucked and they dont have any land to grow some potatoes

the old romanian say apply to this "cand stai la bloc tai mata in loc de porc"

Sorry but you got it wrong:). And no way in hell i'm going to write down the full and correct version.


Besides the countryside in both .ro and .ru is not what it used to be. There are bills there also for gas for electricity for water..
If you want to go and live in the woods and wash yourself in the river.. be my guest.

I prefer searching for a job in a country with 20% unemployment and rely on my skills and knowledge.


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