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March 28, 2014, 12:45:31 PM
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He's probably one of the better candidates for Ukrainian presidency.

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March 29, 2014, 06:07:05 PM
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A very informative, large and comprehensive analytical interview with Foreign Minister Lavrov:

http://rt.com/news/lavrov-interview-ukraine-russia-065/

It's a must read, if one wants to know the Russian position from the source, and not as it is re-told by the Western outlets.

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March 29, 2014, 07:14:03 PM
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Nearly 100,000 Russian forces have massed on Ukraine’s border, a top Ukrainian defense official told an American audience Thursday, giving a number far higher than US military estimates.

“Almost 100,000 soldiers are stationed on the borders of Ukraine and in the direction … of Kharkiv, Donetsk, “ Andriy Parubiy, chairman of Ukraine’s national security council, said via a webcast from Kiev.

“Russian troops are not in Crimea only, they are along all Ukrainian borders. They’re in the south, they’re in the east and in the north,” Parubiy said.

After its intervention in the Crimean peninsula, Russia is plotting to foment separatist sentiment elsewhere and Kiev fears a possible incursion in the country’s east, he told the Atlantic Council, a Washington think tank.

Parubiy said Ukraine was braced for invasion any day now.

http://www.france24.com/en/20140327-ukraine-claims-100000-russian-troops-near-border/

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Nearly 100,000 Russian forces have massed on Ukraine’s border, a top Ukrainian defense official told an American audience Thursday, giving a number far higher than US military estimates.

“Almost 100,000 soldiers are stationed on the borders of Ukraine and in the direction … of Kharkiv, Donetsk, “ Andriy Parubiy, chairman of Ukraine’s national security council, said via a webcast from Kiev.

“Russian troops are not in Crimea only, they are along all Ukrainian borders. They’re in the south, they’re in the east and in the north,” Parubiy said.

After its intervention in the Crimean peninsula, Russia is plotting to foment separatist sentiment elsewhere and Kiev fears a possible incursion in the country’s east, he told the Atlantic Council, a Washington think tank.

Parubiy said Ukraine was braced for invasion any day now.

http://www.france24.com/en/20140327-ukraine-claims-100000-russian-troops-near-border/

Pray for peace, prepare for Hell.

As I said in my earlier response to that quote, it's nothing but fearmongering.

Russia has its forces station along most of its border in approximately the same density.

Interestingly, US also has its forces stationed along Russian borders:


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March 29, 2014, 08:49:54 PM
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During the "cold war" USA provided less than 50% of total NATO budget. Now more than 70% of NATO spendings are handled by USA.

NATO already passed a peak of power a long time ago, now it's nothing more than paper tiger with dropped jaw. A corrupt organization with many controversies behind a veil, and already proven inability to work on the direct purpose.
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March 30, 2014, 01:28:11 AM
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'Darth Vader' runs for president of Ukraine


http://news.yahoo.com/darth-vader-runs-president-ukraine-172730691.html;_ylt=AwrBEiI5FjdTmB8Aq0bQtDMD




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March 30, 2014, 02:05:27 AM
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During the "cold war" USA provided less than 50% of total NATO budget. Now more than 70% of NATO spendings are handled by USA.

NATO already passed a peak of power a long time ago, now it's nothing more than paper tiger with dropped jaw. A corrupt organization with many controversies behind a veil, and already proven inability to work on the direct purpose.


USA spends over 70% and there are more countries with membership?  Huh

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March 30, 2014, 12:52:31 PM
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During the "cold war" USA provided less than 50% of total NATO budget. Now more than 70% of NATO spendings are handled by USA.

With the Eu nations yet to fully recover from the recession, that is not surprising. And the only country which has gained from the NATO (i.e other than the US itself) is Turkey.
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March 30, 2014, 03:29:44 PM
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With the Eu nations yet to fully recover from the recession, that is not surprising. And the only country which has gained from the NATO (i.e other than the US itself) is Turkey.

The Turkish population is rapidly growing. In the near future, Turkey will become no.2 in the NATO, replacing the UK, Germany and France.

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March 30, 2014, 04:29:45 PM
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Russia threatened several Eastern European and Central Asian states with retaliation if they voted in favor of a United Nations General Assembly resolution this week declaring invalid Crimea’s referendum on seceding from Ukraine, U.N. diplomats said.

The disclosures about Russian threats came after Moscow accused Western countries of using “shameless pressure, up to the point of political blackmail and economic threats,” in an attempt to coerce the United Nations’ 193 member states to join it in supporting the non-binding resolution on the Ukraine crisis.

According to interviews with U.N. diplomats, most of whom preferred to speak on condition of anonymity for fear of angering Moscow, the targets of Russian threats included Moldova, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan as well as a number of African countries.

A spokesman for Russia’s Mission to the U.N. denied that Moscow threatened any country with retaliation if it supported the resolution, saying: “We never threaten anyone. We just explain the situation.”

http://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-russia-threatened-countries-ahead-un-vote-ukraine-221945820.html

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March 30, 2014, 04:34:43 PM
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Lavrov: If West accepts coup-appointed Kiev govt, it must accept a Russian Crimea

'Ukraine needs end of violence, constitutional reform and federalization'

http://rt.com/news/lavrov-crimea-ukraine-west-181/

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Uhaha I see "Gayropean union" on the poster, that was funny Cheesy
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Russia threatened several Eastern European and Central Asian states with retaliation if they voted in favor of a United Nations General Assembly resolution this week declaring invalid Crimea’s referendum on seceding from Ukraine, U.N. diplomats said.

BS. It is the US which always bullies the less powerful nations, not Russia.

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Uhaha I see "Gayropean union" on the poster, that was funny Cheesy

What I find special with the picture, is that there's a guy with the Ukrainian flag, and everything is rather peaceful. Wink


In the meantime, the horses for the Ukrainian race are selected:

http://rt.com/news/ukraine-presidential-candidates-bids-197/

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Funny thing is that no country gets to choose the people they vote for.The horses of the race are already prearanged to choose from.Nobody ever gets to pick the horse they want to run.
 
correct and I know everyone would agree that the list would look a lot different if WE did the choosing

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Looking at this list, Darth Vader actually sounds good.
 
I was thinking the same thing.

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What a bloody farce. The US and Europe know no shame.
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LOL - what a bunch of self proclaimed "kings". Is there any one else in prison to submit bid? We can all start a pool who will win - my bet is a billionaire - he can buy more votes than anyone else.

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Russia threatened several Eastern European and Central Asian states with retaliation if they voted in favor of a United Nations General Assembly resolution this week declaring invalid Crimea’s referendum on seceding from Ukraine, U.N. diplomats said.

BS. It is the US which always bullies the less powerful nations, not Russia.

I'd be inclined to agree, RT's saying more or less the exact opposite of that report. Impossible to trust any source now though, the first casualty in war is the truth :/

RT simply relayed the interview with the Russian Minister of Foreign Affairs, Lavrov. It all boils down to who's word one prepares to take, and the time will tell. It always does. It's quite revealing watching some of the interviews with retired CIA officers, shedding some light about, for example, the defamatory information war that US was waging, while USSR had its troops in Afghanistan.

Any significant state would try to sway less powerful states, and Russia is no exception. The action itself can be called many things. Persuasion, diplomacy, threat, trade agreements, military bases, bribery. Take your pick. Smiley The one who is more successful at it and uses it the most will get the most votes.  Tongue

PS: Hmmm:
http://rt.com/news/ukraine-nationalists-attack-cars-137/

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I liked when the RT anchorwoman quit (on air live) a couple weeks ago.

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I liked when the RT anchorwoman quit (on air live) a couple weeks ago.
Yep, that was funny. She've got some popularity in exchange for her professional reputation. Cheesy

http://thecolbertreport.cc.com/videos/i7q6ld/vladimir-putin-s-propaganda-machine---russia-today---liz-wahl

I wonder to know what she will do with her career a couple of years later. Roll Eyes Highly recommended to view.

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I liked when the RT anchorwoman quit (on air live) a couple weeks ago.
Yep, that was funny. She've got some popularity in exchange for her professional reputation. Cheesy

http://thecolbertreport.cc.com/videos/i7q6ld/vladimir-putin-s-propaganda-machine---russia-today---liz-wahl

I wonder to know what she will do with her career a couple of years later. Roll Eyes Highly recommended to view.

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http://rt.com/news/obama-crimea-iraq-invasion-565/

It seems that new meds aren't working.

Regarding this, "Obama says 'bigger nations cannot simply bully smaller ones'. Wait... what?" don't forget that the whole reason he won the election in the first place is because the majority of people here believed that bigger nations shouldn't bully smaller ones, and Obama heavily campaigned on and supported that idea. G W Bush was the guy who invaded Afghanistan and Iraq. Obama was picked to get US the hell out of there, so I'm not sure you can hang that mess around his head (unless you believe US should have remained in Iraq to provide "security."
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March 31, 2014, 04:17:53 AM
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I'm no political stratagist but I suspect this issue is going to lead to alot of trouble for the worlds population.  Russia supported Iran and Syria and now look what is on there doorstep...
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