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April 14, 2014, 02:53:49 PM
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i am not a commie lol
simply you doge my point that poor(unemployed) ppl in the west cant live without a job also they dont own any assets only liabilities if they dont get a job they are fucked and they dont have any land to grow some potatoes

Oh... don't care. One of the easiest way to run away from an argument is name calling. Doesn't matter whether you are a communist or not. Since the pro-Americans have branded you as a Commie, then you must be one.  Grin
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April 14, 2014, 03:26:10 PM
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have branded you as a Commie, then you must be one.  Grin
Not so fast... If you wish to join the CPRF, then you have to prepare to do some public work for the party. Cheesy
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April 14, 2014, 03:51:16 PM
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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c89_1397344888 guns and roses Grin

edit: oh and thats a good one! http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e3d_1397221564 Cheesy
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April 14, 2014, 03:59:58 PM
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Not so fast... If you wish to join the CPRF, then you have to prepare to do some public work for the party. Cheesy

May be. But that does not hides the fact that the KPRF of today is much less left-wing, when compared to the mainstream European parties such as the Labour Party of the UK or the SPD of Germany. Oh... and I forgot the French Socialist Party which recently imposed a 75% income tax.
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April 14, 2014, 04:07:56 PM
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socialism is the worst thing ever. its the base for nazism. im from france and i despise those incompetent fucktards with their inhuman ideology and those fools who bites that crap.
its far more worse than communism if i may say because at least communists dont hide their actions.
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April 14, 2014, 04:09:23 PM
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Not so fast... If you wish to join the CPRF, then you have to prepare to do some public work for the party. Cheesy

May be. But that does not hides the fact that the KPRF of today is much less left-wing, when compared to the mainstream European parties such as the Labour Party of the UK or the SPD of Germany. Oh... and I forgot the French Socialist Party which recently imposed a 75% income tax.
Left orientation usually means shifting economy in favor of public sector.

Extensive increasing of taxes it's not a sign of far-left orientation. It's nothing more than a sign of deadlock, any party could face with that and will act using the same strategy. Party is afraid of lazyness migrants, so they are increasing social payments to prevent maidan in their country. This deadlock could be resolved through using a system of mandatory employment.

socialism is the worst thing ever. its the base for nazism.
What a load of BS...  Huh That's roughly the same as to say "ass is the basis for the face".
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April 14, 2014, 04:12:46 PM
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socialism is the worst thing ever. its the base for nazism.
What?!  Shocked

yup dude, thats right. may i suggest that hitler's party is leftwing socialism before it all got outta control and got labelled extreme right by those same vicious socialist that couldnt face their shitty ideology and so they could discredit their oponents? does national-socialism ring any bell? where do you think all those SS or SA brainwashed fucktard germans came from in majority if not from labor population?
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April 14, 2014, 04:19:59 PM
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Regarding this video, I posted the following (I think it's staged):


Here's my take on this video. (I talked to a friend who served in the army, and he told me that when they did field exercises with blank rounds, that the large amount of fire coming of nozzles was very characteristic):

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This video (or at least the events) might be staged. Here is what talks for it: 1. From another angle  the older men who try to stop the camouflaged people present themselves as former Afghan soldier, and say that everything is under control, yet the guys with weapons press on. The real protesters would not have done so. 2. Journalists are already in place as if they were warned. 3. Journalists and the majority of the present act completely cool when shooting starts. 4. Shooting is most probably is done with BLANK ROUNDS - there is too much fire coming out of nozzles - someone who was in the military told me that blanks tend to do that. 5. The squad strikes several heroic press-ready poses, shoot a lot, but do not move into the building.

Again, this seems to be staged by Kiev coup government to sell to the Western press. This will soon make rounds on BBC, CNN and Faux-News near you, mark my word.

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April 14, 2014, 04:26:34 PM
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socialism is the worst thing ever. its the base for nazism. im from france and i despise those incompetent fucktards with their inhuman ideology and those fools who bites that crap.

I know what happened in France.

Stage I: It all began in the 1960s. France received millions of Arab migrants from Algeria, Morocco.etc. With the plentiful cheap labour, the ethnic French became lazy and depended entirely on the migrant population for blue-collar work. This cheap labour also bought in plenty of tax money, as corporates moved in to France to take advantage of that.

Stage II: Rich with tax money, the ruling parties began bribing the ethnic French, turning them even more lazier. For example, 35-hours a week maximum limit was imposed in white-collar jobs. In the 1990s, an average French worker worked for less than half the time compared to an American worker.

Stage III: As parties began fighting over the votes, bribes were extended to the blue-collar workers, turning them lazy as well. Corporates and manufacturers began moving out of France, as unions became too strong.

Stage IV: Decline in tax money. The French government can't tell the people to work hard. Because the people are used to not working. So they select the least numerous group. The wealthy elite. A tax of 75% is imposed, to fill the treasury.

Stage V (In future): Wealthy people move out of France due to insane tax laws. No revenue for the government. Civil riots. Failure of the government and civil war.
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April 14, 2014, 04:32:28 PM
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socialism is the worst thing ever. its the base for nazism. im from france and i despise those incompetent fucktards with their inhuman ideology and those fools who bites that crap.

I know what happened in France.

Stage I: It all began in the 1960s. France received millions of Arab migrants from Algeria, Morocco.etc. With the plentiful cheap labour, the ethnic French became lazy and depended entirely on the migrant population for blue-collar work. This cheap labour also bought in plenty of tax money, as corporates moved in to France to take advantage of that.

Stage II: Rich with tax money, the ruling parties began bribing the ethnic French, turning them even more lazier. For example, 35-hours a week maximum limit was imposed in white-collar jobs. In the 1990s, an average French worker worked for less than half the time compared to an American worker.

Stage III: As parties began fighting over the votes, bribes were extended to the blue-collar workers, turning them lazy as well. Corporates and manufacturers began moving out of France, as unions became too strong.

Stage IV: Decline in tax money. The French government can't tell the people to work hard. Because the people are used to not working. So they select the least numerous group. The wealthy elite. A tax of 75% is imposed, to fill the treasury.

Stage V (In future): Wealthy people move out of France due to insane tax laws. No revenue for the government. Civil riots. Failure of the government and civil war.

yup thats pretty it. i really fear for my country and cant do shit about it. so sad. such a beautiful country and rich culture (and one of the best geostrategical position on earth with our coastlines, etc we should be one of the most powerful country in the world if it was not for that crappy EU we got stuck in...).
we got fucked deep by socialists. i hate them  Angry
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April 14, 2014, 04:36:02 PM
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A small blunder by Yatsenjuk:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/04/14/swiss-president-greeted-with-danish-flag-in-ukraine/
Denmark and Switzerland are easily confused...

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April 14, 2014, 04:36:18 PM
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we got fucked deep by socialists. i hate them  Angry

Sarkozy is no different. Vote for the FN next month.  Grin
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April 14, 2014, 04:38:25 PM
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we got fucked deep by socialists. i hate them  Angry

Sarkozy is no different. Vote for the FN next month.  Grin

i know Grin

but i fear FN is not the solution too. but at some point i guess the only question is: whats worst?
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April 14, 2014, 04:43:08 PM
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And you can still live in spain and be a commie Smiley
i am not a commie lol

simply you doge my point that poor(unemployed) ppl in the west cant live without a job also they dont own any assets only liabilities if they dont get a job they are fucked and they dont have any land to grow some potatoes

the old romanian say apply to this "cand stai la bloc tai mata in loc de porc"

The poor(unemployed) ppl in the USA cannot live without a job?
What?
They get an insane amount of Gov aide and that will not change until we have a complete collapse.

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April 14, 2014, 04:57:13 PM
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i know Grin
but i fear FN is not the solution too. but at some point i guess the only question is: whats worst?

In democracy, you vote for the least evil of the choices.
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April 14, 2014, 05:01:00 PM
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hdbuck

does national-socialism ring any bell?
According to Hitler's race theory, german race should be placed on the top of the pyramid. Imperfect races (estonians, romanians, lithuanians, ..., ending with jews and asian people) were supposed to be placed on the buttom levels and work for higher levels. This is the basic idea of so-called "national-socialism", and it's is a direct opposition for socialism itself. The term "national-socialism" is an oxymoron.

may i suggest that hitler's party was leftwing socialism before it all got outta control?
Sorry, but you can suggest that Hitler was a martian spy and it will look similar. I can't imagine where you've found this nonsense. Hitler's party always was far-right, it was started as far-right motion from the beginning.

Advice for the future, try to read something about the subject before discussing it. Socialism is inter-nacionalist motion by definition. You can agree or disagree with it, but it doesn't mean that we should mislead people by posting such incredible nonsense.

You have to learn a party program before judging anything. Hitler wasn't the only example of using the name to get some additional points. Just one example for the better understanding, LDPR (Liberal-Democratic Party of Russia) has nothing in common with liberal democracy, they're far-right nationalists. Don't see the headlines, watch the content.

Epilogue.

Speaking of socialism, you have to remind that just as liberalism, the socialist movement has many directions. Some of them are:

  • Marxist socialism;
  • Democratic socialism (variation of marxist theory);
  • Vedic socialism ;
  • Christian socialism;
  • African socialism;
  • Arab Socialism;
  • Agrarian socialism;
  • Ecosocialism;
  • Socialism of the XXI century.

If somebody said that his party has a socialist program, this doesn't mean anything. Maybe it's a marxist party, a typical western social-democratic party with crazy taxes or even christian party, who knows?
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April 14, 2014, 05:19:11 PM
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i know Grin
but i fear FN is not the solution too. but at some point i guess the only question is: whats worst?

In democracy, you vote for the least evil of the choices.

well, sarkozy is an evil europeist that will sell our country to banksters and NWO vampires and hollande is an evil incompetent socialist. guess FN is the only one left that actually has some concern regarding my country and its legacy.

@balthazar hitler's race theory got introduced way after his socialist program. its an ideology, not a program. i can assure you that his program is 100% socialist. afterall, when you look at germany's economical catastrophic situation after WW1, he build all of his party and got democratically elected for his socialist program. not for being a delusional racist.

in france, now, socialists are enhancing the hate for romanians, muslims etc... looks like we are going somewhere...  Roll Eyes
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April 14, 2014, 05:26:04 PM
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@balthazar hitler's race theory got introduced way after his socialist program. its an ideology, not a program. i can assure you that his program is 100% socialist. afterall, when you look at germany's economical catastrophic situation after WW1, he build all of his party and got democratically elected for his socialist program. not for being a delusional racist.

May be he used Socialism to come to power. Once he got the power, he dumped Socialism and turned (more) to Nationalism.
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April 14, 2014, 05:48:19 PM
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Pentagon: Russian fighter jet repeatedly flew over US destroyer in Black Sea
http://rt.com/news/pentagon-destroyer-russian-jet-428/

Scared, are we?  Grin


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They come near Russians borders with their destroyers and then call Russians unprofessional and provocative when they send a reconnaissance plane over there? Colonel Steve Warren really needs a fist in his face. Russians should tow all the NATO non-Black Sea ships that stay there for over 21 days out of there, or just make an artificial reef of them.

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April 14, 2014, 05:50:32 PM
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@balthazar hitler's race theory got introduced way after his socialist program. its an ideology, not a program. i can assure you that his program is 100% socialist. afterall, when you look at germany's economical catastrophic situation after WW1, he build all of his party and got democratically elected for his socialist program. not for being a delusional racist.

May be he used Socialism to come to power. Once he got the power, he dumped Socialism and turned (more) to Nationalism.

nationalism does not imply despising other nations/cultures/religion. yes it puts your nation first, but it doesnt imply the others are worthless (ecxept for those hating fucktards that just dont get it). on the other hand, socialism (which i refer to as nothing more than hidden communism) had killed much more people around the globe because they disagreed or were different, to impose their model. (cf China's cultural revolution, Russian goulags, etc etc)

hence, socialsm is the base for nazism. nationalism was just used to fool the people about doing the right thing.
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