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November 22, 2015, 12:37:39 AM
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We ran a 10 btc freeroll and we still have the bad beat jackpot funded with now over 18 btc!


The reason it's over 18 BTC is because you "unintentionally" took most of it from your players and decided not to give it back.

All funds collected for the BBJP prior to Aug 3rd should be distributed back to the players who funded it as fairly as possible.

Ethics 101 really.



Also don't want this blatant lie to get buried:

No we did not allow those players to play in the tournament but as you may know a bitcoin gaming website creates some unique challenges which we embrace.  

Dear Betcoin.ag,

Yes you did.

I don't have time to prove all of your lies are lie, but you won't get away with too many in a row.

Please stop lying,

Twitchy


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https://www.betcoin.ag/collusion-soft-play-cheating-zero-tolerance-betcoin-poker#comment-11099


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November 22, 2015, 03:30:57 AM
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Great opportunity to pick up some bitcoin in the BitcoinTalk tournament.

Official thread:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1243125.0

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6 seat tables
5,000 starting chips
Blinds raise every 6 minutes
1 ReEntry / 0 ReBuys

BOUNTIES:
Rapacious - 100 mBTC
plo8monster - 50 mBtc
Macab - 50 mbtc
StareYouDown - 50 mbtc

Bounty will be deposited to your Betcoin account after the tournament by submitting a ticket to www.betcoin.ag/support

SIGNUP:
Login to Betcoin.AG and click the 'Tourney' tab.
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November 22, 2015, 04:05:27 AM
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I encourage all Betcoin players that play this Bitcoin talk tournament to read the last few pages of this thread.

Betcoin.ag has made what may have been honest mistakes initially and attempted to resolve them in unethical ways.  They have been dishonest to their players on a consistent basis.  They refuse to fix or even acknowledge what they have done and give no reason to believe they will behave any differently in the future.   

Between the evidence posted and Betcoins reaction I don't see how any other conclusion can be made.

If the Poker and Bitcoin communities tolerate this kind of behavior it will become even more common

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November 22, 2015, 09:51:51 AM
 #3484

Great opportunity to pick up some bitcoin in the BitcoinTalk tournament.

Official thread:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1243125.0

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1750 mBTC paid to top 3 finishers
1000 mBTC 1st place
500 mBTC 2nd place
250 mBTC 3rd place

BUYIN:
10+1 mBTC (0.011 BTC, ~$3.35 USD currently)

DATE:
Sunday November 22th, 2015

TIME:
1900 GMT (+0000)
1400 EST  (-0500)
1000 PST  (-0800)
(verify the time in your poker client)

RULES:
6 seat tables
5,000 starting chips
Blinds raise every 6 minutes
1 ReEntry / 0 ReBuys

BOUNTIES:
Rapacious - 100 mBTC
plo8monster - 50 mBtc
Macab - 50 mbtc
StareYouDown - 50 mbtc

Bounty will be deposited to your Betcoin account after the tournament by submitting a ticket to www.betcoin.ag/support

SIGNUP:
Login to Betcoin.AG and click the 'Tourney' tab.
Under 'Tourney' you will see the tab for 'Special' then look for:
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PASSWORD:
btc4life

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November 22, 2015, 10:36:01 AM
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i never have any problems with betcoin after many deposit and withdraw after i see this action here it disgust me how user betcoin.ag act when showed objects  you did wrong!  If you did not do these things that user twitchyseal claims you would have very different actions and show that others are the dishonests not you!

i hope you change to be more honest but if perpetual dishonest and not face past dishonest I hope you close business soon

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November 22, 2015, 05:29:56 PM
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Thanks for fixing the 100% rakeback promo.  Any plans on a 10 btc freeroll coming or some of the VIP freerolls? I always see a spike in traffic following these freerolls which signals to me an increase in depositing players or is it more of the current players who come back?  Keep up the good work!

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November 22, 2015, 06:00:31 PM
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Last night I tried using the table starter thing to earn the 100% rakeback bonus, but it didn't work.

I went to my wallet, clicked 'Pick Tables' next to 'Poker Table Starter', clicked 'Sit Here' on the 'Tokyo' row. It told me 'Selected. You have 5 minutes to sit at Tokyo.'

So I went back to the lobby and sat at table 'Tokyo', and bought in for the max available (100 chips).

I went back to the wallet, clicked 'refresh', and it told me 'Pending Tokyo: Sit at table now' and that's all.

I wasn't sat there before it told me to sit, but it never noticed me sitting.

The feature worked about a week ago when I tried, but now it is broken again.

Please don't tell me to make a ticket, because nobody answers tickets.

Edit: I just tried again now and it worked this time, so the bug seems intermittent.

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November 22, 2015, 06:16:19 PM
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Hey Betcoin,

Thought I should let you know that when you ban a players IP and disable their account, they're still able to log in with the poker client, access funds in their poker balance, register and play tournaments etc...They just cant access the website.

Any explanation by the way on the sudden change from

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The owner of this website (poker.betcoin.ag) has banned your IP

Remember, best not to reply at all than to reply with a lie (like last time)



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November 22, 2015, 08:26:14 PM
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Damnit, I just missed ITM on the BitcoinTalk tourney and just missed that bounty on Rapacious!  Fun tournament, I see the layover but you should really try to focus on building out Betcoin specific tournaments maybe with a lower GTD amount. 

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November 22, 2015, 08:28:23 PM
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Last night I tried using the table starter thing to earn the 100% rakeback bonus, but it didn't work.

I went to my wallet, clicked 'Pick Tables' next to 'Poker Table Starter', clicked 'Sit Here' on the 'Tokyo' row. It told me 'Selected. You have 5 minutes to sit at Tokyo.'

So I went back to the lobby and sat at table 'Tokyo', and bought in for the max available (100 chips).

I went back to the wallet, clicked 'refresh', and it told me 'Pending Tokyo: Sit at table now' and that's all.

I wasn't sat there before it told me to sit, but it never noticed me sitting.

The feature worked about a week ago when I tried, but now it is broken again.

Please don't tell me to make a ticket, because nobody answers tickets.

Edit: I just tried again now and it worked this time, so the bug seems intermittent.

This was fixed 5 hours ago:  https://www.betcoin.ag/comment/44937#comment-44937

When you first tried there was an error but that error has been fixed.  Thank you for the update!

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November 22, 2015, 08:30:42 PM
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Damnit, I just missed ITM on the BitcoinTalk tourney and just missed that bounty on Rapacious!  Fun tournament, I see the layover but you should really try to focus on building out Betcoin specific tournaments maybe with a lower GTD amount. 

Thanks for your support ftwbtc1.  The tournament again was a lot of fun.  We certainly plan on building out the Betcoin specific tournaments further out in the future and will certainly take your advice into account. 

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Damnit, I just missed ITM on the BitcoinTalk tourney and just missed that bounty on Rapacious!  Fun tournament, I see the layover but you should really try to focus on building out Betcoin specific tournaments maybe with a lower GTD amount. 

Thanks for your support ftwbtc1.  The tournament again was a lot of fun.  We certainly plan on building out the Betcoin specific tournaments further out in the future and will certainly take your advice into account. 

Yes, fun tourney....I took a bad beat but I did manage to collect one of the bounties so positive ROI on the day so far!  Now I need to concentrate on qualifying for the Daily Coin.  Best valued tournament on the site!!!  And it plays every day!  Just can't lose here!  SMILE
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Damnit, I just missed ITM on the BitcoinTalk tourney and just missed that bounty on Rapacious!  Fun tournament, I see the layover but you should really try to focus on building out Betcoin specific tournaments maybe with a lower GTD amount. 

Thanks for your support ftwbtc1.  The tournament again was a lot of fun.  We certainly plan on building out the Betcoin specific tournaments further out in the future and will certainly take your advice into account. 

Yes, fun tourney....I took a bad beat but I did manage to collect one of the bounties so positive ROI on the day so far!  Now I need to concentrate on qualifying for the Daily Coin.  Best valued tournament on the site!!!  And it plays every day!  Just can't lose here!  SMILE

cjmoles thank you for playing with us and we appreciate your feedback anytime.  Good luck on the felt!  There is tremendous value in the Daily Coin as well!

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Can you explain how the poker rakeback and status points works please?

Usually I get both of them paid overnight, but last night I got neither.

Yesterday I only played one session, and I qualified for the table-starter bonus on it.

I got paid the bonus about an hour after ending that session, but didn't get any status points at all.

Here's a screenshot of my 'events':



You see 6:36am 2 nights ago I got rakeback + status for my previous day's play, but there's nothing around 6am last night.

Is this a bug? Or do we not get status points if we are getting the table-starter bonus? I was expecting that the "immediate" bonus was 100% rakeback, and overnight I'd get the extra 10% rakeback plus status that I usually get, but that didn't happen.

I'd appreciate an explanation of what happened. Thanks.

Edit: SMG wanted me to confirm that I am the same 'dooglus' as on betcoin.ag. I am.


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Can you explain how the poker rakeback and status points works please?

Usually I get both of them paid overnight, but last night I got neither.

Yesterday I only played one session, and I qualified for the table-starter bonus on it.

I got paid the bonus about an hour after ending that session, but didn't get any status points at all.

Here's a screenshot of my 'events':



You see 6:36am 2 nights ago I got rakeback + status for my previous day's play, but there's nothing around 6am last night.

Is this a bug? Or do we not get status points if we are getting the table-starter bonus? I was expecting that the "immediate" bonus was 100% rakeback, and overnight I'd get the extra 10% rakeback plus status that I usually get, but that didn't happen.

I'd appreciate an explanation of what happened. Thanks.

Edit: SMG wanted me to confirm that I am the same 'dooglus' as on betcoin.ag. I am.



The comp points (betcoin points) and status points you earn from your regular VIP rakeback level play are usually credited daily.

The comp points you earn from table starter bonus is credited soon after you leave that table. For me it shows up after a few refreshes of my wallet page. However, the corresponding status points that you earn from the table starter bonus will get added to/credited at the time your regular VIP rakeback is done.

I think the confusion comes from the fact that there is no "poker_table_starter" designation for the status points you earn like there is for the comp points you earn from the table starter bonus and therefore you don't see it on the event page. Your VIP status points on your events page should include your regular status points + table starter status points. Ie, they arent shown/designated seperately like they are with the comp points.

Basically what I'm saying is you do get credited the status points you earn from table starter bonus, but at a later time when your regular VIP status points are next updated. And it isn't shown seperately. At least that's what I've observed.

Now if you are missing/not getting your status points at all, then that's prolly a different issue your having. If so, it would be faster resolved with live chat support bc they will actually go in and look at your account right then and there and see what's going on exactly.


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November 23, 2015, 06:59:25 PM
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Thanks for your reply.

Now if you are missing/not getting your status points at all, then that's prolly a different issue your having.

Right, and I am not. My status points this morning are exactly the same as they were last night. I got nothing from the overnight run. Nothing shows up in "events" around 6am (like it does every other day at around 6am) and my status point count didn't change.

I took a copy of my status last night, and again this morning:

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Sun Nov 22 20:56:45 PST 2015    Current Level: Bronze III       Status Points: 448.1098 Next Level: 1,000 Status Points 44.76%  Betcoin Points: 987.4788
Mon Nov 23 08:04:40 PST 2015    Current Level: Bronze III       Status Points: 448.1098 Next Level: 1,000 Status Points 44.76%  Betcoin Points: 987.4788

As you can see, they are identical.

If so, it would be faster resolved with live chat support bc they will actually go in and look at your account right then and there and see what's going on exactly.

Live chat support has previously told me that they can't look at user accounts, and that I should make a ticket. But tickets never get looked at, and posts on betcoin's own forum get deleted, so I guess this is the best place. At least here the post will be seen and not deleted.

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November 23, 2015, 07:17:02 PM
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Thanks for your reply.

Now if you are missing/not getting your status points at all, then that's prolly a different issue your having.

Right, and I am not. My status points this morning are exactly the same as they were last night. I got nothing from the overnight run. Nothing shows up in "events" around 6am (like it does every other day at around 6am) and my status point count didn't change.

I took a copy of my status last night, and again this morning:

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Sun Nov 22 20:56:45 PST 2015    Current Level: Bronze III       Status Points: 448.1098 Next Level: 1,000 Status Points 44.76%  Betcoin Points: 987.4788
Mon Nov 23 08:04:40 PST 2015    Current Level: Bronze III       Status Points: 448.1098 Next Level: 1,000 Status Points 44.76%  Betcoin Points: 987.4788

As you can see, they are identical.

If so, it would be faster resolved with live chat support bc they will actually go in and look at your account right then and there and see what's going on exactly.

Live chat support has previously told me that they can't look at user accounts, and that I should make a ticket. But tickets never get looked at, and posts on betcoin's own forum get deleted, so I guess this is the best place. At least here the post will be seen and not deleted.

Hmmm... well I won't speculate on what might be going on with your account if that is the case with no change in your status points and betcoin points and just leave that to the betcoin.ag rep(s)/support.

As far as live chat support, it seems my experience is different than yours. Just this month, I've used live chat support on two seperate occasions to look into a withdrawal issue and a SP/RB issue and both times the reps went into my account looked at was going on and resolved both issues with detailed info. So yeah, idk in your situation what happened. But Good Luck in any case.
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@Dooglus

I said I wasn't going to speculate, but looking closer at this:
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Sun Nov 22 20:56:45 PST 2015    Current Level: Bronze III       Status Points: 448.1098 Next Level: 1,000 Status Points 44.76%  Betcoin Points: 987.4788
Mon Nov 23 08:04:40 PST 2015    Current Level: Bronze III       Status Points: 448.1098 Next Level: 1,000 Status Points 44.76%  Betcoin Points: 987.4788

My guess is that your account hasn't updated your points yet for the most recent period. Maybe wait and check again after 14 hours or so from that last time stamp.

*Addendum: why not just try live chat, what have you got to lose. I'd be willing to bet they'd be able to clear this up within a few minutes of connecting with an agent.
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Great! the app is back to normal. now we have a lot of more game options. People are going back to betcoin again! Love the freerolls!
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November 24, 2015, 03:54:25 AM
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The way Betcoin dealt with my missing rakeback and status points was the hair that broke the camels back for me.

I opened the ticket on Sept 1st, but had a feeling I wasn't receiving the the full vip rewards for several weeks.  It's just one of those things that's too easy to put off till tomorrow...

A few days later I got first response, informing me that there were no issues and I was getting paid appropriately.


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OHYEAH, we have confirmed that your getting points for the tournaments you play and your account is accurate.
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After a few more sessions and confirming I was definitely missing a big chunk of both Status Points and Rake-back Andrew responded assuring me again that everything was right.

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We welcome you to crunch numbers because we are absolutely certain your VIP numbers are correct. The payouts are done when the tournament finishes and not on the day it starts you should note and tickets do not count towards it. What day in particular are you referring to so that I can show you that it is working properly. There have been a few players that come in here making these claims and then we take the time to show them very clearly that everything is accurate.  We have many players that play regularly now and if it wasn't accurate, you would hear from them all.
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When Andrew said "ticket do not count towards it" I had to assume he meant if you won a sattellite into a tournament you wouldn't receive any benefits based on the target tournaments entry fee.  Even though you won the value of the entry + fee. 

"We have many players that play regularly now and if it wasn't accurate, you would hear from them all"

- I heard from them all the time, and so does he.
- I know at least a few of them complained in the past and were compensated whatever they thought they were missing at the time.  I had already made it clear that I didn't want some ammount of bitcoin they pulled out of the air. I wanted what I was promised, and I wanted them to give everyone else what they promised - even the guys that didn't complain.  I also wanted them to fix it so we wouldn't have to do this all over again.


I think that Betcoin thought they might be doing something wrong - but weren't sure - so they just hid from me until they figured out what their next move was.

In the mean time I stopped playing at betcoin almost completely.




Sunday October 11th I decided to use betcoin as my WPN skin for the day and prepared to buyin directly to every tournament prior to playing any sattys.
(Sundays are the by far the biggest day for online mtts, I usually 9-12 table across 3 different sites and and my average buyin is almost 4x bigger than the rest of week average, 35-45% of the tournaments I reg on a sunday are satellites)

During that session I played the following tournaments on Betcoin, all of which I registered directly entered/re-entered:  $500+40, $135+5(x3),$80+8, $40+4, $30+3, $20+2 and $10+1 (x4)

That's a total of $76 in fees which converted to ~ 306 chips at the time (1 chip = 1 mbtc)

According to their terms - I should receive 1,530 Status points

My VIP level is Silver 1 so I am entitled to 26.6% rake back = 81.3 chips which should be given in the form of around 5,300 betcoin points.

I ended up receiving less than 2000 betoin points over the next two mornings.

I was also shorted by a similar margin with the status points - I don't have the proof for the total status points I received during that period because they have since disabled my account.




October 13th Betcoin decided to clarify the whole "rakeback from tournaments you were registered for through satty" policy:


For clarity, players receive VIP points when you use your bitcoin to buy into a satellite tournament based on the fees you pay. You do not receive VIP points on the tournament that you are entered into once you win the seat. The entire point of a satellite is to provide you greater value and the WPN distinguishes the buyins on the data Betcoin receives as a satellite that real bitcoin was used to buy into vs a tournament that a player won a seat or used a ticket to get into.
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I doubt they even knew this was how their system had been working this way all along until they realized they they would have to deal with me some way other than simply ignoring me.

I still think this is a really stupid policy - but I'm going to stop myself from dwelling on how illogical it is to have such a policy without an apologetic explanation involving technical issues.


I immediately let them know that this only answered for SOME of the rake back I thought I was owed - not ALL.

I provided screen shots, I bumped ticket, I asked them about it in chat, private chat, I made threads...

Since mid October they have treated me the same way you see them treating me here in this thread - other than an occasional passive aggressive insult, they refuse to acknowledge my existence or anything I say. 

My shark scope showing the non satellite tournaments I played which were completed on 10/11

http://www.sharkscope.com/#Player-Statistics//networks/WPN/players/twitchyseal


Rakeback received early morning 10/12



Deleted thread Betcoin deleted from their forums (mostly regs discussing the fact that rake back is wrong every time they independently check it, but even when faced with math Betcoin won't budge from their "rakeback is right, you are wrong" stance):

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After blantantly ignoring me for nearly two weeks, Andrew offers the following:



Obviously I got ignored after bumping ticket.




Just want to remind anyone who made it this far-  I didn't make this post just to prove I got screwed out of some rake back (although I wouldn't blame you for assuming so).  I made it because I want everyone to look at the way Betcoin handled this issue and compare it to some of the other issues I've brought up; like the BBJP issue, the No Collusion Freeroll  - how they handle cheaters in general, even how they have behaved in this very thread....if a casino as dishonest and  non-transparent (opaq?) as Betcoin is able to grow and succeed long term - it will lower the standards of future businesses within the industry.  Unregulated doesn't mean unaccountable. 

I'd be happy to discuss anything I've posted in any way shape or form.  It's tough trying to say everything I want to but avoid wall of text boringness that nobody will do more than glance at...


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