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July 09, 2016, 02:31:42 AM
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We wanted to update everyone with the great news after a tremendous amount of hard work by the Betcoin.ag Staff.

Jasonort Case Resolution

From the very second our great player jasonort came to us with his casino related issue, Betcoin.ag took immediate action working with the software provider to understand, explain and then complete a proper resolution of the matter. We were asked and chose to remain silent on the matter to the public because statements would only cause speculation which would not be conducive to what we believed would be a proper outcome.

[...]

As a result of the speculation however our reputation has taken a hit in this forum but we know that we did the right thing here and will always continue to do so. Throughout this entire circumstance jasonort continued to play at Betcoin.ag and so did many new and old Betcoin.ag players. We are very thankful for that.

What is this, a self-congratulatory pat on the back for Betcoin by Betcoin for engineering a confidential settlement to destroy any attempt at transparency while creating even more speculation and a shadier reputation in the forums? Bravo! You should be ashamed of yourselves.

"We are pleased to announce that we have paid jasonort enough money to not reveal anything regarding progressive jackpot irregularities at Betcoin! So, come to our fireside chat where he is contractually obliged to reveal nothing about the specific resolution!"

So, are you guys going to keep Betsoft slots on the site and continue to pay off players in confidential settlements if they somehow manage to beat the rig? If so, can I get a link to the confidential settlement pay table? Or are you going to take an honest, proactive approach like your competitor, Bovada, and get rid of Betsoft slots?
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July 09, 2016, 03:29:59 AM
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We wanted to update everyone with the great news after a tremendous amount of hard work by the Betcoin.ag Staff.

Jasonort Case Resolution

From the very second our great player jasonort came to us with his casino related issue, Betcoin.ag took immediate action working with the software provider to understand, explain and then complete a proper resolution of the matter. We were asked and chose to remain silent on the matter to the public because statements would only cause speculation which would not be conducive to what we believed would be a proper outcome.

[...]

As a result of the speculation however our reputation has taken a hit in this forum but we know that we did the right thing here and will always continue to do so. Throughout this entire circumstance jasonort continued to play at Betcoin.ag and so did many new and old Betcoin.ag players. We are very thankful for that.

What is this, a self-congratulatory pat on the back for Betcoin by Betcoin for engineering a confidential settlement to destroy any attempt at transparency while creating even more speculation and a shadier reputation in the forums? Bravo! You should be ashamed of yourselves.

"We are pleased to announce that we have paid jasonort enough money to not reveal anything regarding progressive jackpot irregularities at Betcoin! So, come to our fireside chat where he is contractually obliged to reveal nothing about the specific resolution!"

So, are you guys going to keep Betsoft slots on the site and continue to pay off players in confidential settlements if they somehow manage to beat the rig? If so, can I get a link to the confidential settlement pay table? Or are you going to take an honest, proactive approach like your competitor, Bovada, and get rid of Betsoft slots?

Many have been saying the same thing Marlais.

https://www.casinolistings.com/news/2016/07/betcoin-ag-betsoft-force-shafted-jackpot-winner-into-agreement

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I feel sorry for Jason. He's been placed in the position where he either gets whatever small amount they paid him off with or nothing. The casino is unregulated and unaccountable and Betsoft's games are crooked, so what is he going to do?

The casino's statement above almost makes me vomit in my mouth. I've added Betcoin.ag to our blacklist today. They will remain there until such time as Jason is paid his full million mBTC win (i.e. most likely forever).

Also, as far as Bovada goes, they just released another statement (well email) explaining how they would deal with the missing progressive jackpot funds:



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As promised, we have news for you regarding our recent changes to our casino game lineup and the resulting impact to our progressive jackpot offering. We know how popular some of these progressive jackpot games are for our players and so to help make up for those games, over the coming weeks we'll be adding extra amounts in total of $1.25M to a number of our own jackpot games.    
    Today, the three games below will have these amounts added to their current progressive jackpots:   
    For desktop players:
•   Food Fight: $185,000
•   Super Diamond Mine: $125,000   
    For mobile and download:
•   Jackpot Piñatas: $187,500
On Monday July 11, we will begin to distribute another $750,000 across select games by increasing the starting jackpot amounts from $1000 to $5000 per jackpot, and matching jackpot contributions by an additional 1% per wager. This will continue until the $750,000 figure has been met.   
    The games offering these elevated jackpots are:
•   Bulletproof Babes
•   Sevens and Stripes
•   Caesar's Empire
•   Aztec's Treasure
•   Cleopatra's Gold
•   Dirty Martini   
    We thank you for your continued support, please stay tuned for exciting new game releases in the coming months as we continue our search to provide you with games of the highest possible quality and entertainment.    
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In case anyone is curious, Betcoin is currently advertising a total of BTC4,215.7 worth of progressives. (Almost $2.8million usd)

However, when you go into the games and add up each individual denomination jackpot, you get BTC2,978.5  (Just under $2million usd)









Other relevant stuff:

Betcoin confirmed they were paying out as of Jan 2014 when player noticed "progressive: no".:

Ok I'm trying this out.  I'm waiting on deposit to confirm.

I notice when I click progressives on the top of screen I'm taken to some slot options.  Then if I hover over the slots it says "progressive: no".  are they progressive payout or not?

edit:  my deposit has a confirmation but it still shows that I have the balance but it's not available
What is your username?  You can pm us if you wish.  Deposits are instant with zero confirmations. 

The progressives are definitely paying out.  We are looking into this right now. 

Since then I believe exactly one progressive has been hit.  It's been 2 years since.

Congratulations to www.BetcoinCasino.com's btc2014 who scored a 3,800 mbtc progressive jackpot at 3D Slot Greedy Goblins.  The progressives have now reached 443,268.85 mbtc at www.BetcoinCasino.com.  Come win some bitcoin today.



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July 09, 2016, 04:05:55 AM
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They pushed the settlement on jasonort...They know that he had no recourse in court or anywhere since this is an offshore unregulated site. Wonder how much money of the $750,000 jackpot won was kept by Betcoin for their help in holding jasonort hostage.
Why would this amount kept confidential?  Another heist from Betcoin.

Betcoin Jessica:  "You either take 10k or you get nothing. You have 10 minutes to  decide. Also, as a condition of receiving any funds, you have to post positive comments."

WHAT A SITE, the fact that they are  not removing Betsoft games shows that the are in cahoots with them.
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July 09, 2016, 05:32:25 AM
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WHAT A SITE, the fact that they are  not removing Betsoft games shows that the are in cahoots with them.

Do confidential settlements pay out on bonus spins tho?
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July 09, 2016, 06:31:07 PM
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Jessica White, I'm still waiting for you answers to these questions.  It's been weeks!

Will Betcoin take the proactive step that other casinos (like Bovada) have taken and remove BetSoft slots from their casino?

Oh and also don't forget these questions which you've been ignoring for weeks:

1. Why did you commit plagiarism?

2. Who is your parent company?

3. When will you be refunding the players who were overcharged due to the error you just admitted to?
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July 09, 2016, 06:54:20 PM
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Whaou, on betcoin threads all I see are people bashing the site their methods and the bugs :/

Not really a good point when you wonder where to gamble ^^

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July 11, 2016, 08:54:20 PM
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Did Betcoin just peace out or what? This is all I see where their website used to be:

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Apache/2.4.7 (Ubuntu) Server at www.betcoin.ag Port 80
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July 11, 2016, 09:00:46 PM
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works fine for me
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July 11, 2016, 09:10:19 PM
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works fine for me

Still down here, 403 Forbidden on two web browsers after dumping my cache.

ETA: I can reach the website if I use my cell phone as a wireless access point, but using my regular network gives me the 403 error. What might cause this issue? I was getting CloudFlare errors all day yesterday trying to reach the site.
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July 12, 2016, 02:11:39 AM
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The site and client are both working fine for me. I'm in US.
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July 14, 2016, 07:05:44 PM
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works fine for me

Still down here, 403 Forbidden on two web browsers after dumping my cache.

ETA: I can reach the website if I use my cell phone as a wireless access point, but using my regular network gives me the 403 error. What might cause this issue? I was getting CloudFlare errors all day yesterday trying to reach the site.

We had to block some IP ranges because of an attack and it has been mitigated.  Thank you and ask live support if you have any issues.  Thank you. 

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Last edit: July 14, 2016, 07:25:20 PM by Betcoin.AG
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We would like to thank CardsChat for their immediate response to the matter found here:  https://www.betcoin.ag/betcoin-poker-responds-cardschat-absurd-blacklist-designation

We also believe and have stated to them that they should remove SWC Poker from the AVOID list, because SWC poker is a group of good guys providing a good option for bitcoin poker. Though our competitor, we have a lot of respect for what they have done and they provide a good option to you which in turn makes us all better.

We are in a very similar position of bitcoin a couple years ago, where some media and pundits spoke negatively of it, but the users that used it understood the value and bitcoin continued to get stronger and stronger.  Wednesday we had one of our highest trafficked days, because people are smart and they see and understand true value and quality.  When Seals began, hardly anybody knew what bitcoin was and now nearly every casino offers some bitcoin payment system.  These guys are the pioneers and should be supported, not torn down.

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July 14, 2016, 07:53:16 PM
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Did they explain why they removed you from the list anywhere? 

Or did Betcoin just mysteriously vanish....

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July 14, 2016, 10:15:37 PM
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Did they explain why they removed you from the list anywhere? 

Or did Betcoin just mysteriously vanish....

We all know Betcoin isn't above throwing a little money at people to get rid of some negative press.

Still waiting on the answers to these questions.  Odd how they can be SO QUICK to jump all over some negative press on an outdated site yet these questions, all based on statement's Betcoin/Jessica White has made, go unanswered for nearly a month:

Will Betcoin take the proactive step that other casinos (like Bovada) have taken and remove BetSoft slots from their casino?

Why did you commit plagiarism?

Who is your parent company?

When will you be refunding the players who were overcharged due to the under-conversion error you admitted to?
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July 15, 2016, 03:36:40 PM
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Will Betcoin take the proactive step that other casinos (like Bovada) have taken and remove BetSoft slots from their casino?

Why did you commit plagiarism?

Who is your parent company?

When will you be refunding the players who were overcharged due to the under-conversion error you admitted to?

After Betsoft responds we will make a decision and it will also be based on the decision of our direct competitors Cloudbet.com and BitcCasino.io who you and everyone else seems to forget also offer Betsoft games.  We are very fortunate that most people can see what is going on here.  Your complaints about Betsoft games could be aimed at 90% of the online casinos, yet you choose us.  We are perfectly ok with handling this and have received support from players and competitors alike.

Plagiarism? DarkDays come on.

Private held company that owns operates and licenses software and services to many online casinos.

The conversion rate should be changing in real time and this is not an issue.  We have discussed this with players in detail for 2 years at Betcoin.ag.  Thank you. 

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July 15, 2016, 03:41:46 PM
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Did they explain why they removed you from the list anywhere? 

Or did Betcoin just mysteriously vanish....

They explained in an email to us immediately.  We love your use of "mysteriously"...lol.

You even know that Betcoin Poker is a tremendous place to play and have said that many times.  CardsChat and a couple others hadn't even heard about Betcoin Poker prior to you and now we get some referral traffic from that that converts pretty well so we need to thank you for that. 

We are starting to get the pro team under way and these players are good!  We are going to treat it like an true pro team and sponsor entries to online tournaments, land based tournaments and more! 

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Plagiarism? DarkDays come on.

You said that you didn't write the article the you published under your name with no attribution.  

Why did you do this?

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Private held company that owns operates and licenses software and services to many online casinos.

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The conversion rate should be changing in real time and this is not an issue.  We have discussed this with players in detail for 2 years at Betcoin.ag.  Thank you.  

But I showed evidence that it did not.  Why do you continue to lie about this?  When will you be compensating the players that you stole from because of this?

Thank you.
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Who is your parent company?
Private held company that owns operates and licenses software and services to many online casinos.

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July 17, 2016, 09:20:21 AM
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OK, Betcoin, you say that as soon as Betsoft responds and you see the decisions from the other casinos, you'll make a decision? I fail to see why you need to wait for either of these things to occur in order to examine the information in front of you and make your own decision now. Effectively you are saying that you are incapable or unwilling to make your own decisions based on the current information. Bovada didn't wait for someone to tell them how to decide. That's why Bovada is where they are in the poker world, and conversely, why you are where you are.
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