[ANN][MOON] Mooncoin: You know where it's headed! KGW exploit FIXED 4/3/2014

[peme]

Wallets:
http://download.mooncoin.info/
seit tagen ofline finde kein wallet. Hilfe

peme is working on a backup-site: http://mooncoin.rocks
As soon as he has a working download-page for the wallets there, we all can check that out and see, if they have the same checksums as the original ones, so confirm that the wallets are clean and can be downloaded from that source, too. Just be a little patient, please.

Edit:
See his posting here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=389403.msg8485849#msg8485849

MOONCOIN WALLET IS BACK AGAIN !!! 

The windows wallet of the working wallet version 1.862.1 is online at http://mooncoin.rocks/wallet-download/

All the checksums of the Mooncoin-1.862.1.exe are the original ones.

The checksums of the 7z and the selfextracting 7z-file are new ones, because I had to create these files new (I only have the original Mooncoin-1.862.1.exe) and couldn't get the same checksums because of different compression parameters. I tried with some changes, but couldn't get the original hash results. If you extract them you will get the original exe with the original checksums. If you don't trust them, you may use the download of the Mooncoin-1.862.1.exe.

...also corrected the link at http://mooncoin.rocks/ for the block explorer in the main menu.

todos for the next days:
- correcting wrong links at mooncoin.rocks
- create correct content for official pool list at mooncoin.rocks
- compile the mooncoin wallet from source (I worked with QT some years ago) and figure out how to change random to static block rewards (thats easy but I don't know what to do after that source code change and compiling. Is it enough to deliver the new wallet with static block reward? What has to be done that the old wallet with random block reward won't work anymore?...some help would be nice  )

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[coinflow]

Wallets:
http://download.mooncoin.info/
seit tagen ofline finde kein wallet. Hilfe

peme is working on a backup-site: http://mooncoin.rocks
As soon as he has a working download-page for the wallets there, we all can check that out and see, if they have the same checksums as the original ones, so confirm that the wallets are clean and can be downloaded from that source, too. Just be a little patient, please.

Edit:
See his posting here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=389403.msg8485849#msg8485849

MOONCOIN WALLET IS BACK AGAIN !!!  

The windows wallet of the working wallet version 1.862.1 is online at http://mooncoin.rocks/wallet-download/

All the checksums of the Mooncoin-1.862.1.exe are the original ones.

The checksums of the 7z and the selfextracting 7z-file are new ones, because I had to create these files new (I only have the original Mooncoin-1.862.1.exe) and couldn't get the same checksums because of different compression parameters. I tried with some changes, but couldn't get the original hash results. If you extract them you will get the original exe with the original checksums. If you don't trust them, you may use the download of the Mooncoin-1.862.1.exe.

...also corrected the link at http://mooncoin.rocks/ for the block explorer in the main menu.

todos for the next days:
- correcting wrong links at mooncoin.rocks
- create correct content for official pool list at mooncoin.rocks
- compile the mooncoin wallet from source (I worked with QT some years ago) and figure out how to change random to static block rewards (thats easy but I don't know what to do after that source code change and compiling. Is it enough to deliver the new wallet with static block reward? What has to be done that the old wallet with random block reward won't work anymore?...some help would be nice   )

Hey, great. That's good news. Maybe you could ask Syntaks/twoturtles regarding the wallet. He is the developer of Bellacoin and as far as I remember, he helped deaconboogie, too, to get the last Windows-wallet working/compiled. I'm sure he could tell you what to do, to get this new wallet working. Perhaps he could also compile a new Mac-wallet then. If he needs a bounty for that, I'd gladly donate, of course and am sure others would do also. I think we should ask him. Could be possible, that he has more info on what happened to deaconboogie, too ...? What do you think?

Here the resources of Bellacoin (BELA):
Website: http://www.bellacoin.com
BCT: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=437825.0
Contact: http://www.bellacoin.com/the-bellacoin-team/

Edit:
I'll contact Graham (gjhiggins) by PM, too. Maybe he can tell us more on that, too and we can use the wallet, he already forked on GitHub as a basis for this ...?

Edit 2:
Just checked the .exe-file from mooncoin.rocks
Seems to be legit. These are the checksum-results of the downloaded .exe, which are the same with my own Mooncoin-1.862.1.exe:

     File: Mooncoin-1.862.1.exe
CRC-32: 63f8b21c
    MD4: 5a0fb654c0f45a5584ebd727e1b8a7e5
    MD5: edc341b411f2e138850827cc13570ea1
 SHA-1: f04fc5dde039af945fd70386066fdb5a75464480

Maybe someone else can check the contents of the 7z-files and also confirm the checksum results above? That way we can get the highest possible measure of confidence.

[mebagger]

Having the wallet back, and a new site are great. Thanks for the hard work. But should we be just willy nilly changing the block reward system? Did everyone vote for that change? Seems like a major change to me.

[coinflow]

Having the wallet back, and a new site are great. Thanks for the hard work. But should we be just willy nilly changing the block reward system? Did everyone vote for that change? Seems like a major change to me.

We MUST do the change from random rewards to static ones.
Because otherwise the hard-working smaller honest miners are cheated by the big foul-playing ones, cherry-picking the highly-rewarded blocks only.
Do you want that? That's nothing else but unfair.

Edit: It is, by the way, something deaconboogie himself suggested in one of his earlier postings on mooncoin.info (edit: simultaneously with changing from KGW to DigiShield), but that never got done until today, unfortunately.

[mebagger]

Another thought is that if we are not sure about how this modified wallet interacts with the existing ones, maybe it shouldn't be offered for download as to not cause confusion. It would be great to have the exact original wallet for download. The only major change that it really needs is an installation wrapper. It's been a while but I think nullsoft has a nice easy to use one. There are many people that don't know what to do with software that doesn't have an installer...http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Download

Edit: I think doge, reddcoin and bitcoin all have installers. I understand your point as a techie. But I'm thinking about having a wider audience. 

[coinflow]

Another thought is that if we are not sure about how this modified wallet interacts with the existing ones, maybe it shouldn't be offered for download as to not cause confusion. It would be great to have the exact original wallet for download. The only major change that it really needs is an installation wrapper. It's been a while but I think nullsoft has a nice easy to use one. There are many people that don't know what to do with software that doesn't have an installer...http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Download

On the site above http://mooncoin.rocks, it still IS the original one.
We are only thinking about the future now here. Because deaconboogie seemingly does not. Edit 3: Or at least doesn't let us know about that.

Edit: What for is the installation-wrapper really needed? The .exe itself works flawlessly. But the random rewards don't.
Edit 2: An installation-wrapper would be a nice addon, but can lead to new problems, for example when using different paths for the files that are saved (blockchain, peers, wallet.dat) than the standard-ones. I've had several problems with other wallets because of that, not so with the Mooncoin.exe.  

[gjhiggins]

I'll contact Graham (gjhiggins) by PM, too. Maybe he can tell us more on that, too and we can use the wallet, he already forked on GitHub as a basis for this ...?

If deacon boogie isn't available and you're looking to bring in outside help then you should stay with the official release to avoid unnecessarily complicating matters with inessentials. The official release is the one Syntaks helped with, it makes so much more sense to stick with that one.

Sorry I can't pitch in, circumstances are preventing it.

Cheers,

Graham

[mebagger]

I'll contact Graham (gjhiggins) by PM, too. Maybe he can tell us more on that, too and we can use the wallet, he already forked on GitHub as a basis for this ...?

If deacon boogie isn't available and you're looking to bring in outside help then you should stay with the official release to avoid unnecessarily complicating matters with inessentials. The official release is the one Syntaks helped with, it makes so much more sense to stick with that one.

Sorry I can't pitch in, circumstances are preventing it.

Cheers,

Graham

Sorry I read the post wrong. That change was proposed not included in the current download. The change sounds like a good one the me. But I would add merged mining and the installer to the list as well. Why reinvent the wheel if it works well for dogecoin, it would probably work well for us too.

[coinflow]

I'll contact Graham (gjhiggins) by PM, too. Maybe he can tell us more on that, too and we can use the wallet, he already forked on GitHub as a basis for this ...?

If deacon boogie isn't available and you're looking to bring in outside help then you should stay with the official release to avoid unnecessarily complicating matters with inessentials. The official release is the one Syntaks helped with, it makes so much more sense to stick with that one.

Sorry I can't pitch in, circumstances are preventing it.

Cheers,

Graham

Sorry I read the post wrong. That change was proposed not included in the current download. The change sounds like a good one the me. But I would add merged mining and the installer to the list as well. Why reinvent the wheel if it works well for dogecoin, it would probably work well for us too.

Ah, OK. I already thought, you'd call a change to prevent ripping off miners by other miners, who are probably "more clever", "inessential" ...

[gjhiggins]

Ah, OK. I already thought, you'd call a change to prevent ripping off miners by other miners, who are probably "more clever", "inessential" ...

Nope, I had no remit to rock the boat. Couldn't even manage an update to the cosmetics, let alone make a change to the reward schedule

Just in passing ... the proposed change requires a hard fork and that's not something to be rushed. People and pools need time to i) get round to reading the communication, ii) schedule the work, iii) implement the change and iv) confirm the results.

Cheers

Graham

[coinflow]

Ah, OK. I already thought, you'd call a change to prevent ripping off miners by other miners, who are probably "more clever", "inessential" ...

Nope, I had no remit to rock the boat. Couldn't even manage an update to the cosmetics, let alone make a change to the reward schedule

Just in passing ... the proposed change requires a hard fork and that's not something to be rushed. People and pools need time to i) get round to reading the communication, ii) schedule the work, iii) implement the change and iv) confirm the results.

Yes, you know, that I advocate it too, to only do that, if really needed.
But I think this is such a situation. Just check the blockchain and you'll see, that it is extremely unfair. 2QgWwFic9H45Waeac7Gr4iveRp8UUuPAy8 gets nearly all the big blocks (~250,000-600,000 Mooncoins), and the other miners receive only the small ones (1-300,000). We simply cannot let this happen any longer.

[sigwo]

Ah, OK. I already thought, you'd call a change to prevent ripping off miners by other miners, who are probably "more clever", "inessential" ...

Nope, I had no remit to rock the boat. Couldn't even manage an update to the cosmetics, let alone make a change to the reward schedule

Just in passing ... the proposed change requires a hard fork and that's not something to be rushed. People and pools need time to i) get round to reading the communication, ii) schedule the work, iii) implement the change and iv) confirm the results.

Yes, you know, that I advocate it too, to only do that, if really needed.
But I think this is such a situation. Just check the blockchain and you'll see, that it is extremely unfair. 2QgWwFic9H45Waeac7Gr4iveRp8UUuPAy8 gets nearly all the big blocks (~250,000-600,000 Mooncoins), and the other miners receive only the small ones (1-300,000). We simply cannot let this happen any longer.

Dogecoin fixed this issue months ago,,,,,right before their price tanked.

[gjhiggins]

Dogecoin fixed this issue months ago,,,,,right before their price tanked.

I think it happened when Dogecoin moved to Bitcoin Core 0.9 back in May. I've never quite understood why people aren't keener on migrating to a client app with protection against transaction malleability, especially seeing as it's a known exploit.

But “tanked”? http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/cryptocurrency-news-round-dogecoins-price-rockets-bitcoin-stabilises-darkcoin-drops-1462583

Cheers

Graham

[coinflow]

Dogecoin fixed this issue months ago,,,,,right before their price tanked.

I think it happened when Dogecoin moved to Bitcoin Core 0.9 back in May. I've never quite understood why people aren't keener on migrating to a client app with protection against transaction malleability, especially seeing as it's a known exploit.

But “tanked”? http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/cryptocurrency-news-round-dogecoins-price-rockets-bitcoin-stabilises-darkcoin-drops-1462583

He's most probably referring to the "tanking" from the all-time highs at ~280 Sat to the now reached <= 30 Sat. But it seems as if DOGE is working its way up again, which is a good sign. And so could MOON - after its only "a little bit" more of tanking ...  

BUT: we need to fix those issues, that came our way. And to achieve this, we need an active developer (i.e.: someone capable of maintaining the code in a professional way).

Once again: deaconboogie, where are you???

I'd really rather see you come back and care for your coin yourself.
We can help ourselves only to a certain extent (if we don't decide to take over by a community-driven fork with a new development-mastermind or -team). And it is really great, to see the community working in a kind of concerted action now, to compensate for deaconboogies shortcomings. That's awesome.

What do you all think about that?

[agswinner]

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[disclaimer201]

Dogecoin fixed this issue months ago,,,,,right before their price tanked.

I think it happened when Dogecoin moved to Bitcoin Core 0.9 back in May. I've never quite understood why people aren't keener on migrating to a client app with protection against transaction malleability, especially seeing as it's a known exploit.

But “tanked”? http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/cryptocurrency-news-round-dogecoins-price-rockets-bitcoin-stabilises-darkcoin-drops-1462583

He's most probably referring to the "tanking" from the all-time highs at ~280 Sat to the now reached <= 30 Sat. But it seems as if DOGE is working its way up again, which is a good sign. And so could MOON - after its only "a little bit" more of tanking ...  

BUT: we need to fix those issues, that came our way. And to achieve this, we need an active developer (i.e.: someone capable of maintaining the code in a professional way).

Once again: deaconboogie, where are you???

I'd really rather see you come back and care for your coin yourself.
We can help ourselves only to a certain extent (if we don't decide to take over by a community-driven fork with a new development-mastermind or -team). And it is really great, to see the community working in a kind of concerted action now, to compensate for deaconboogies shortcomings. That's awesome.

What do you all think about that?

I hope he comes back, it would be awesome for MoonCoin. If not, we will see how far this community will get. In any way, the mining disparity issue must be solved ASAP.

[peme]

New free song "moon phase" (work in progress) at musicformoon.com. 
What do you think? You may vote here: http://musicformoon.com/favourite-song-vote/. 

I also added some "Where can I buy mooncoins?"-Infos at http://musicformoon.com/about-mooncoins/ 

[Wekkel]

New free song "moon phase" (work in progress) at musicformoon.com. 
What do you think? You may vote here: http://musicformoon.com/favourite-song-vote/. 

Its a bit Doom-esque...

[agswinner]

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[mooncoin1]

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