[ANN][MOON] Mooncoin: You know where it's headed! KGW exploit FIXED 4/3/2014

[coinflow]

my video about MOONcoin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qclaG2onFB0 help me advertise

Cool video! 

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[agswinner]

TO THE MOON ! great videos!

[agswinner]

   
Support (Hive)
Aug 28 10:06

Hi Andrea,

Thanks for this wonderful suggestion! Before we can add it, we need specific details and help with the developers of mooncoin. You can join the discussion on our token prioritization and find out about what we will be specifically needing for our wallet to support mooncoin. Here are the links : https://github.com/hivewallet/discussions/issues/22 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637227.0.

Kind regards,
Karla

[agswinner]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637227.new#new

[coinflow]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637227.new#new

I've read a little bit in that thread and they are saying, that they'd need a SPV (Simple Payment Verification)-compatible wallet, to implement the coin into Hive.
That's another reason to upgrade our wallet to the Bitcoin-code as soon as possible (as gjhiggins already mentionened above, it would also overcome the transaction malleability-problem), inlcuding changing from random rewards to static rewards for the miners (but leaving the rest of the algorithm completely intact).
See this link for more on SPV: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Scalability#Simplified_payment_verification

Edit: See this link, for information on bitcoinj, an implementation of SPV: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoinj

[peme]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637227.new#new

I've read a little bit in that thread and they are saying, that they'd need a SPV (Simple Payment Verification)-compatible wallet, to implement the coin into Hive.
That's another reason to upgrade our wallet to the Bitcoin-code as soon as possible (as gjhiggins already mentionened above, it would also overcome the transaction malleability-problem), inlcuding changing from random rewards to static rewards for the miners (but leaving the rest of the algorithm completely intact).
See this link for more on SPV: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Scalability#Simplified_payment_verification

Edit: See this link, for information on bitcoinj, an implementation of SPV: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoinj

To be supported by Hive, mooncoin needs SPV-implementation. SPV = Simplified Payment Verification. For that we need so called trusted servers, which verify the transactions instead of the clients. But it also is more vulnerable. From the bitcoin-whitepaper:

"As such, the verification is reliable as long as honest nodes control the network, but is more
vulnerable if the network is overpowered by an attacker. While network nodes can verify
transactions for themselves, the simplified method can be fooled by an attacker's fabricated
transactions for as long as the attacker can continue to overpower the network. One strategy to
protect against this would be to accept alerts from network nodes when they detect an invalid
block, prompting the user's software to download the full block and alerted transactions to
confirm the inconsistency."

That means, we need not only one but enough trusted servers for SPV, if I understand it right. And the next question is: Is it enough to have these trusted servers and Hive knows them, or do we have to extend the mooncoin wallet code with additional functionality for SPV?

[coinflow]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637227.new#new

I've read a little bit in that thread and they are saying, that they'd need a SPV (Simple Payment Verification)-compatible wallet, to implement the coin into Hive.
That's another reason to upgrade our wallet to the Bitcoin-code as soon as possible (as gjhiggins already mentionened above, it would also overcome the transaction malleability-problem), inlcuding changing from random rewards to static rewards for the miners (but leaving the rest of the algorithm completely intact).
See this link for more on SPV: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Scalability#Simplified_payment_verification

Edit: See this link, for information on bitcoinj, an implementation of SPV: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoinj

To be supported by Hive, mooncoin needs SPV-implementation. SPV = Simplified Payment Verification. For that we need so called trusted servers, which verify the transactions instead of the clients. But it also is more vulnerable. From the bitcoin-whitepaper:

"As such, the verification is reliable as long as honest nodes control the network, but is more
vulnerable if the network is overpowered by an attacker. While network nodes can verify
transactions for themselves, the simplified method can be fooled by an attacker's fabricated
transactions for as long as the attacker can continue to overpower the network. One strategy to
protect against this would be to accept alerts from network nodes when they detect an invalid
block, prompting the user's software to download the full block and alerted transactions to
confirm the inconsistency."

That means, we need not only one but enough trusted servers for SPV, if I understand it right. And the next question is: Is it enough to have these trusted servers and Hive knows them, or do we have to extend the mooncoin wallet code with additional functionality for SPV?

That shows the problems with not fully blown nodes/wallets. It's always a trade-off between security and the lightweight needed for mobile wallets, which aren't supposed to download and store the entire blockchain.
This is the key-problem in this regard: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Weaknesses#Sybil_attack
So we have to make sure, that the amount of GOOD (i.e.: trustworthy) standard wallets/nodes is the majority.

Here is what Hive is writing:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637227.msg7107913;topicseen#msg7107913
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=313489

Edit:
Regarding your last question, I understand it that way, that they need a working SPV-node (mooncoinj for example), to port the code to their wallet. See here: https://github.com/hivewallet/discussions/wiki/Token-support

Edit 2:
I think, this could be interesting, too: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=256583.0;all

[georgem]

Is the blockexplorer over at http://mooncoin.info offline?

[coinflow]

Is the blockexplorer over at http://mooncoin.info offline?

Yes. Try www.moonchain.net instead, until the official one is back.

[agswinner]

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[agswinner]

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[coinflow]

mooncoin! in fifth position!!!!!on https://bleutrade.com/voting

For all new Moonies, looking for a wallet: try http://mooncoin.rocks/wallet-download - which is a backup of the official-site, which is currently offline unfortunately.

The correct checksums for the Mooncoin.exe after download and/or extraction from the 7z-file should be as follows:

     File: Mooncoin-1.862.1.exe
CRC-32: 63f8b21c
    MD4: 5a0fb654c0f45a5584ebd727e1b8a7e5
    MD5: edc341b411f2e138850827cc13570ea1
 SHA-1: f04fc5dde039af945fd70386066fdb5a75464480

[agswinner]

Great coinflow! Mac wallet ?

[coinflow]

Great coinflow! Mac wallet ?

http://mooncoin.rocks was set up by peme (see some postings above).
I wondered about the Mac-wallet, too. We should ask him, if he can provide that also.

peme?

[peme]

Great coinflow! Mac wallet ?

http://mooncoin.rocks was set up by peme (see some postings above).
I wondered about the Mac-wallet, too. We should ask him, if he can provide that also.

peme?

Unfortunately I do not have the mac wallet. Searched the whole internet but couldn't find it. If someone has it, then please send it to me so that I can check the checksums with the original ones from mooncoin.info (possible with wayback machine internet archive) and integrate it for download in mooncoin.rocks .

[bit tired]

Is the wallet posted by coinflow by the original mooncoin developers?

[peme]

Is the wallet posted by coinflow by the original mooncoin developers?

the windows wallet at mooncoin.rocks is the original mooncoin wallet from the mooncoin developers. I created mooncoin.rocks as a backup site, because the official mooncoin.info from the mooncoin developer is offline since over a week. You may check the checksums of the downloadable exe-file at mooncoin.rocks and compare them with the original ones at mooncoin.info (use http://archive.org/web/ for that.

[agswinner]

http://forum.casheer.net

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[peme]

Mooncoin Mining Pool List and Exchanges updated at http://mooncoin.rocks . 

[daavenger]

Great coinflow! Mac wallet ?

http://mooncoin.rocks was set up by peme (see some postings above).
I wondered about the Mac-wallet, too. We should ask him, if he can provide that also.

peme?

Unfortunately I do not have the mac wallet. Searched the whole internet but couldn't find it. If someone has it, then please send it to me so that I can check the checksums with the original ones from mooncoin.info (possible with wayback machine internet archive) and integrate it for download in mooncoin.rocks .

Hey there i managed to find what i think to be the MAC wallet you can check it out for yourself @

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ripfzgpbh6buwkc/Mooncoin-Qt-1.862.1-Mac.zip

i did not upload this or have anything to do with it....  I just searched for it and this is what i came up with!!