[ANN][PRT] Particle | CPU/GPU, Fast, Easy Mine, * NO PREMINE * | Official Thread

[Nullu]

100 confirmations is a bit extreme.

[Snotty]

Nowhere was it stated the 100 confirmations was due to low hash rate.  You are making that up for your own purpose.

How about PRT/BTC on CoinMarket.io?

It would be quite slow to deposit, considering a 100 confirmation requirement...
(a hint to the coin's dev: the 100 confirmation requirement is ridiculous when you have enough hashrate (eg. not a dead coin))

Or, you know, maybe that was stated somewhere..?

Lol are you english as a second language?  Read that again.

Nowhere does that say that there is a 100 confirmation requirement DUE TO LOW HASHRATE.  coinmarket.io was saying the OPPOSITE when it was added.  They said it does have enough hashrate so moonmoon should change the 100 confirmation req because that is ridiculous on a non dead coin.

Yes, in fact, I am english as a second language.

[coinrudar]

...logo image, blah, blah... just too much things to quote...

I can't believe you still complain about stuff. This is the best logo made yet! If you will waste more time trying to make something that takes you a month to complete without promoting your coin properly it will be delisted from all sites, loose value and never recover. Is that what you want?
Also, please stop posting the mockups you make publicly, because that only scares people away, once they see the quality of it all. regular users don't give a crap about the functionality you are talking about. all they want is eye candy.

I know I am being a bit harsh, but you are killing the coin. look at the volumes on the exchanges. look at the net hashrate. tell me everything is under control?
I need a decent logo to be able to start the marketing campaign. I want to create a professional HQ video presentation of the coin and its features, but I can't until I have HQ graphics to work with (please understand that) then run a proper youtube/fb/twitter marketing campaign getting regular/non-tech/geek people into mining Particle.
This will only increase the hashrate, trading volume and price.
without marketing nobody will know about this coin.
I want particle to succeed, and now there are like 5-6 major active supporters of particle (if even)

matauc12 has donated 250k to the marketing fund, now its worth 35% less than it was at the time of donation, so we are getting less and less funds to hire gigs and designers to work on promotional materials.
We need to rebrand and come back with a bang, or else all is lost.

no matter how harsh this sounds (and it really does), I also believe you are right.
Now... First I want to say that I really wish PRT value to grow, and I see DEVs are doing a great job. I know things like this take time, and I'm patient.
but
PRT doesn't have any publicity. Volume on exchanges is just pathetic. Just some random trades on coinedup, and nothing else. Trades are so rare and overall volume is so low. You can see the candlestick chart is useless. No pattern, no rules. Who would want to invest in something totally non predictable? I am in this almost from the beginning, so I know the whole story and I know now is probably good time to buy, but what about someone who didn't read this thread? He doesn't know anything about the new wallet. He doesn't know why PRT will be so special. There is no reason for him to buy. Especially with the trend of price going down and PRT being canceled from exchanges.

That's why I ask all of you to get together and make a brand here. Snotty's logo is just great. Let's accept it and start from there.

To tell the truth, if someone like bittick asked me just like that to give him money for a campaign (and also in advance), I'd probably tell him to *uck off, but the more he posts here the more I trust him. I've been living of a marketing specialist's salary for years. Done that, but for me it's enough. No more inspiration. But I understand bitticks attitude and all he said until now. And the other thing - no one else applied for that job.

On the other hand I understand the DEVs. PRT is their baby and sometime is hard to let another person take your project's fate into their hands, but no moonmoon or anyone can do this all alone.

To everyone - this is the moment of decision. Act now or say good bye to PRT. Peaceful times of mining for big rewards is finished. It's time to build the value and cash in millions!

P.S. English is also my second language, but I think you've got the point here.

[alicea]

Peaceful times of mining for big rewards is finished. It's time to build the value and cash in millions!

Nothing to add.
The work makes the value. Not the block rewards in early mining.
Big rewards are bonus at start. For people who took the risk in the first day.
Now everything is in your hands.
Let's go mining and trading!

[chowdan]

Nowhere was it stated the 100 confirmations was due to low hash rate.  You are making that up for your own purpose.

How about PRT/BTC on CoinMarket.io?

It would be quite slow to deposit, considering a 100 confirmation requirement...
(a hint to the coin's dev: the 100 confirmation requirement is ridiculous when you have enough hashrate (eg. not a dead coin))

Or, you know, maybe that was stated somewhere..?

Lol are you english as a second language?  Read that again.

Nowhere does that say that there is a 100 confirmation requirement DUE TO LOW HASHRATE.  coinmarket.io was saying the OPPOSITE when it was added.  They said it does have enough hashrate so moonmoon should change the 100 confirmation req because that is ridiculous on a non dead coin.

Before you go correcting someone elses english, you should have correct grammar as well. "are you english..." is not correct.

[Snotty]

<..>
Lol are you english as a second language?  Read that again.

Nowhere does that say that there is a 100 confirmation requirement DUE TO LOW HASHRATE.  coinmarket.io was saying the OPPOSITE when it was added.  They said it does have enough hashrate so moonmoon should change the 100 confirmation req because that is ridiculous on a non dead coin.

Before you go correcting someone elses english, you should have correct grammar as well. "are you english..." is not correct.

Well, he's right, because I did misinterpret CoinMarket.io sentence about confirmations due to the lack of knowledge on how altcoin works, since I thought that exchanges set confirmation requirements, not coin developers. But that unnecesarry aggressive tone and personal attacks really grinds my gears today.

So, anyway, time to regroup, I think. This week is a Particle marketing week!

[novocaine]

<..>
Lol are you english as a second language?  Read that again.

Nowhere does that say that there is a 100 confirmation requirement DUE TO LOW HASHRATE.  coinmarket.io was saying the OPPOSITE when it was added.  They said it does have enough hashrate so moonmoon should change the 100 confirmation req because that is ridiculous on a non dead coin.

Before you go correcting someone elses english, you should have correct grammar as well. "are you english..." is not correct.

Well, he's right, because I did misinterpret CoinMarket.io sentence about confirmations due to the lack of knowledge on how altcoin works, since I thought that exchanges set confirmation requirements, not coin developers. But that unnecesarry aggressive tone and personal attacks really grinds my gears today.

So, anyway, time to regroup, I think. This week is a Particle marketing week!

+1

[Hilux74]

Or, you know, maybe that was stated somewhere..?

But that unnecesarry aggressive tone and personal attacks really grinds my gears today.

Truce.  I was offended by your rude response to me, so I responded in kind.

Go PRT.

[Snotty]

Or, you know, maybe that was stated somewhere..?

But that unnecesarry aggressive tone and personal attacks really grinds my gears today.

Truce.  I was offended by your rude response to me, so I responded in kind.

Go PRT.

Truce. I was offended by your rude response to bittick first... and so the chain of negativeness started!

All good now and all be better tomorrow. I'm going to start working on thread  BBcode and wallet mockup redesign, if I survive work meeting, which will surely be a complete waste of time.

[dyask]

<..>
Lol are you english as a second language?  Read that again.

Nowhere does that say that there is a 100 confirmation requirement DUE TO LOW HASHRATE.  coinmarket.io was saying the OPPOSITE when it was added.  They said it does have enough hashrate so moonmoon should change the 100 confirmation req because that is ridiculous on a non dead coin.

Before you go correcting someone elses english, you should have correct grammar as well. "are you english..." is not correct.

Well, he's right, because I did misinterpret CoinMarket.io sentence about confirmations due to the lack of knowledge on how altcoin works, since I thought that exchanges set confirmation requirements, not coin developers. But that unnecesarry aggressive tone and personal attacks really grinds my gears today.

So, anyway, time to regroup, I think. This week is a Particle marketing week!

The real problem with this coin is the first miners were given insanely high rewards and it quickly dropped to absurdly low rewards.   The coin would be far better of if it had been 500 coins per block for a much longer time instead of the exponential decay award scheme that was used.   Now there is little incentive to keep mining.   

[dyask]

This is a complete instamine! Half of the coins will be mined within the first few days. 620 mil of the 1000 mil total by block 20 000.

I got to the party late and this is an innovative coin, but it is dying now.   There reason is very simple, there isn't any rewards for mining it.   The schedule was set up to only help the devs and few that could mine right away, now when the network is needed there isn't any reward for mining.   This coin will die unless something is done.   

The first awards should have been much lower for a much longer period of time.   500 coins for the first 1000000 blocks and then having, etc.  Then there would have long term incentive to keep the network going.   

[qbd1313]

you are so funny,Particle Wallet is so great,moonmoon work hard

if you want more rewards,just go to mine other suck coins

plz

[qbd1313]

Particle Wallet is nice
There are a lot of innovation
if Particle is dead, other suck coins will be dead too.
sorry for my poor English.

[dyask]

Particle Wallet is nice
There are a lot of innovation
if Particle is dead, other suck coins will be dead too.
sorry for my poor English.

Sounds like you are sitting on a few million particles.    I'm not saying there wasn't innovation, I'm saying it wasn't set up to be fair. 

I think that a coin that takes some of the innovations and is also fair will really clean up.   Giving an unfair advantage to the first miners is no longer a valid thing to do.   The advantage should only be they get more coins because there were fewer miners at the time.   

I'm just disappointed to see this coin already dying.   What are you going to market?   Come mine this coin for a token of the awards that were already handed out.   The wallet isn't enough to carry the coin you also need a network of miners.

[dyask]

Particle Wallet is nice
There are a lot of innovation
if Particle is dead, other suck coins will be dead too.
sorry for my poor English.

For the record ... I write a lot of software.   Yes there is innovation, but there are some major problems with the particle wallet too, for example it has a minimum height that is too big for many smaller computers.   I realized it can be changed, but like most crypto coins, it isn't great yet.

[zaltod]

I'm just disappointed to see this coin already dying.   What are you going to market?   Come mine this coin for a token of the awards that were already handed out.   The wallet isn't enough to carry the coin you also need a network of miners.

I hate to say it but this guy is right...  

I mined since day 2 and I'll continue to mine this coin for a few more weeks but right now the acceptance is just not high enough to justify it's existence.  I'm going to hold on to my coins in case I'm wrong but as far as I'm concerned, this coins death is weeks away.  The promise of a new wallet was great, but there isn't enough interest in other services that Cryptos require to stay relevant.  I have a website all set up for gift card exchanges for particle but I fear it would just be a massive cash dump for the hundreds of silent users that are sitting on 100k+ particle.

Hopefully something happens in the near future that proves me completely wrong.  I have my doubts though.

Quote me on this, if I'm wrong I'll eat my crow, "in 1 week, the price is below 0.00000100 btc, in 4 weeks .00000010"

[mexidense]

Well!!! i try with this crypto!

I acept donations  PeTU4wGywPmTePa479YS57cFXDRoAJ1Bqa

[zaltod]

Well!!! i try with this crypto!

I acept donations  PeTU4wGywPmTePa479YS57cFXDRoAJ1Bqa

I sent you some,

Either hold it or go visit Altsino.com and try and double your money.  If you cash out I might be angry.

[Hilux74]

Like many cryptos a couple weeks ago Particle had an unhealthy boom out of nowhere for no reason other than DOGE, MOON and TIPS were being pumped.  We went from 40 to 500 in a couple days and have been pretty steady now ~200+/-.  If it wasn't for the bump skewing things 150-200 is still a pretty decent climb in a few weeks.  Even 100 would be nice.

Most interesting is the lack of trade volume the last week or so.  With most alt coins I have seen a continued volume of trading all the way down down down.  With PRT we climbed and then just silence.  There are a LOT of Particle already out in the wild so it's not like it isn't available for trading.  I think people that mined or purchased PRT see much potential in it and have very little desire to dump unlike most coins where miners dump as fast as they mine.  I have not noticed any dumping of significant volume.  The yang to the ying is that there is also a lack of buyers right now so I think people that have not heard of PRT just are not getting the message.  This is where I think it is clear we need to make some more noise and toot some horns. 

We need new investor blood, not new miners...same boat as Quark...mining is pretty much in maintenance mode and now its time to move to the next level and get this going as a currency that is used.  It seems like the mining reward wind down is even faster than Quark so there is really no time to waste in getting people interested in using PRT.

The new wallet is going to be great but it also sounds like developing the '3rd party app' layer will take some time.  Would a possible idea to get some interim publicity be to release the wallet in 2 stages.  The first could be the graphical updates plus some of the hardwired new features like ticker and link to CoinedUp etc etc.  That way we get some buzz and get people interested in the wallet and used to the layout and maybe some of those people will get interested in building apps etc etc.  Then once the 'particle accelerator' (or whatever the app store gets called) is finished release the second stage of the wallet.

Go PRT!

[dyask]

Like many cryptos a couple weeks ago Particle had an unhealthy boom out of nowhere for no reason other than DOGE, MOON and TIPS were being pumped.  We went from 40 to 500 in a couple days and have been pretty steady now ~200+/-.  If it wasn't for the bump skewing things 150-200 is still a pretty decent climb in a few weeks.  Even 100 would be nice.

Most interesting is the lack of trade volume the last week or so.  With most alt coins I have seen a continued volume of trading all the way down down down.  With PRT we climbed and then just silence.  There are a LOT of Particle already out in the wild so it's not like it isn't available for trading.  I think people that mined or purchased PRT see much potential in it and have very little desire to dump unlike most coins where miners dump as fast as they mine.  I have not noticed any dumping of significant volume.  The yang to the ying is that there is also a lack of buyers right now so I think people that have not heard of PRT just are not getting the message.  This is where I think it is clear we need to make some more noise and toot some horns. 

We need new investor blood, not new miners...same boat as Quark...mining is pretty much in maintenance mode and now its time to move to the next level and get this going as a currency that is used.  It seems like the mining reward wind down is even faster than Quark so there is really no time to waste in getting people interested in using PRT.

The new wallet is going to be great but it also sounds like developing the '3rd party app' layer will take some time.  Would a possible idea to get some interim publicity be to release the wallet in 2 stages.  The first could be the graphical updates plus some of the hardwired new features like ticker and link to CoinedUp etc etc.  That way we get some buzz and get people interested in the wallet and used to the layout and maybe some of those people will get interested in building apps etc etc.  Then once the 'particle accelerator' (or whatever the app store gets called) is finished release the second stage of the wallet.

Go PRT!

What good is a wallet if no one is mining to support transactions?   Without mining crypto coins don't work.    When everyone stops mining there won't be any transactions.

It isn't so much a problem that there was so much mined so quickly, the problem is that soon even the meager awards that exist today for mining will be gone.   What are the plans to fix that?