[ANN][XCP] Counterparty - Pioneering Peer-to-Peer Finance - Official Thread

[delulo]

was the bug actually fixed with the 0.6 client?
and the only remaining problem is that funds might have been lost from poloniex?

does onyone have a quick answer here?

Yes

thanks.
when I install the GUI client from JahPowerBit is the bug fixed with this as well?

[Patel]

Can someone please post the command to pull the latest git from develop branch?

[Anotheranonlol]

Has anybody created GoxBTC -> RealBTC listing on DEX?

Maybe someone can take advantage. market is ripe for it.

Actually, those who have their money on Mt. Gox could have made a BearCFD in order to hedge against the price on Mt. Gox decreasing. Of course, this would have required someone who was "long" Mt. Gox, which would probably have been difficult.

Makes a lot more sense, thanks .there are a fair number of people who are long on gox still, dwindling rapidly though 

[jimhsu]

Someone called "busoni" registered an account at the Counterparty forums and made a post:

https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php?topic=127.new#new

Can busoni please verify this, preferably by signing a message with a key? If not, I'll delete the thread.

[cityglut]

Someone called "busoni" registered an account at the Counterparty forums and made a post:

https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php?topic=127.new#new

Can busoni please verify this, preferably by signing a message with a key? If not, I'll delete the thread.

It isn't absolute proof, but he did essentially cross-post here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395761.msg5284606#msg5284606.

[jimhsu]

Someone called "busoni" registered an account at the Counterparty forums and made a post:

https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php?topic=127.new#new

Can busoni please verify this, preferably by signing a message with a key? If not, I'll delete the thread.

It isn't absolute proof, but he did essentially cross-post here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395761.msg5284606#msg5284606.

I'm not sure what you mean by signing a message, but I linked to this thread from bitcointalk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395761.msg5284606#msg5284606


And I will now transfer 1.32 XCP from 15vA2MJ4ESG3Rt1PVQ79D1LFMBBNtcSz1f to the donation account.

Thanks, that will be sufficient proof.

Just wanted to make sure that the community is on the safe side. We've seen our share of scams already.

[danonthehill]

Busoni,

I see that my XCP balance has been restored on Poloniex.  Would you please confirm that my BTC balance i.e. the BTC that was exchanged for the XCP that I no longer have, will also be restored?

[busoni]

Busoni,

I see that my XCP balance has been restored on Poloniex.  Would you please confirm that my BTC balance i.e. the BTC that was exchanged for the XCP that I no longer have, will also be restored?

It will be, when the BTC is returned. All BTC is accounted for, just awaiting the return of the funds.

[kdrop22]

Announcement: Desktop GUI bounty funds to be distributed.

The funds at the bounty address amount to:

• 7.41790989 BTC
• 1856.13963636 XCP

There were two submissions for the "desktop GUI" bounty - one from JahPowerBit, and one from btcfanatic. Between these two users, funds at the bounty address will be split thus:

• JahPowerBit will receive: 4.45074594 BTC and 1113.68378182 XCP
• btcfanatic will receive: 2.96716395 BTC and 742.45585454 XCP

In other words, JahPowerBit will receive 60% of the bounty funds, and btcfanatic will receive 40% of the bounty funds.

JahPowerBit has demonstrated enthusiasm and initiative, and has made a functioning web GUI. He has also detailed his plans for the future, and has recruited other community members to help him achieve the goals he has set out.

JahPowerBit's GUI has wider functionality than btcfanatic's, but btcfanatic's architecture was more what we had in mind. With that said, we imagine users will have a harder time getting btcfanatic's GUI to work than JahPowerBit's.

While both GUIs are cross-platform, they lack build systems for Windows. Going forward, this is very important.

We strongly encourage the community to get involved: test out the GUIs, interact and collaborate with the developers, and give them feedback. Counterparty is a community driven project, and will progress most effectively if the community works together.

Thanks very much to both JahPowerBit and btcfanatic for participating in the Desktop GUI bounty, and helping the Counterparty protocol become more user-friendly. And thanks to the community for providing donations, to help motivate developers.

We are discussing further bounties which should leverage what has been achieve with the desktop GUI bounty. Please stay tuned.

btcfanatic and JahPowerBit, please email your addresses to <bounties@counterparty.co>.

This is cross-posted from the bounty thread on the official Counterparty forums.

EDIT: Of course, here are the GUI submissions:

• JahPowerBit's: https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,8.msg501.html#msg501.
• btcfanatic's: https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,8.msg579.html#msg579.

If anyone figured out how to get this working on Windows. Please, post instructions.

[flatfly]

Announcement: Desktop GUI bounty funds to be distributed.

The funds at the bounty address amount to:

• 7.41790989 BTC
• 1856.13963636 XCP

There were two submissions for the "desktop GUI" bounty - one from JahPowerBit, and one from btcfanatic. Between these two users, funds at the bounty address will be split thus:

• JahPowerBit will receive: 4.45074594 BTC and 1113.68378182 XCP
• btcfanatic will receive: 2.96716395 BTC and 742.45585454 XCP

In other words, JahPowerBit will receive 60% of the bounty funds, and btcfanatic will receive 40% of the bounty funds.

JahPowerBit has demonstrated enthusiasm and initiative, and has made a functioning web GUI. He has also detailed his plans for the future, and has recruited other community members to help him achieve the goals he has set out.

JahPowerBit's GUI has wider functionality than btcfanatic's, but btcfanatic's architecture was more what we had in mind. With that said, we imagine users will have a harder time getting btcfanatic's GUI to work than JahPowerBit's.

While both GUIs are cross-platform, they lack build systems for Windows. Going forward, this is very important.

We strongly encourage the community to get involved: test out the GUIs, interact and collaborate with the developers, and give them feedback. Counterparty is a community driven project, and will progress most effectively if the community works together.

Thanks very much to both JahPowerBit and btcfanatic for participating in the Desktop GUI bounty, and helping the Counterparty protocol become more user-friendly. And thanks to the community for providing donations, to help motivate developers.

We are discussing further bounties which should leverage what has been achieve with the desktop GUI bounty. Please stay tuned.

btcfanatic and JahPowerBit, please email your addresses to <bounties@counterparty.co>.

This is cross-posted from the bounty thread on the official Counterparty forums.

EDIT: Of course, here are the GUI submissions:

• JahPowerBit's: https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,8.msg501.html#msg501.
• btcfanatic's: https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,8.msg579.html#msg579.

If anyone figured out how to get this working on Windows. Please, post instructions.

I have posted a first Windows build for the JahPowerBit GUI (BoottleXCP) here:
 https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php?topic=74.msg760#msg760

Be aware that this build and the BoottleXCP GUI itself are both still in alpha - although the build process is based on my previous Electrum and Chainsnort builds, so that should be pretty robust already.

[hjlow]

Busoni,

I see that my XCP balance has been restored on Poloniex.  Would you please confirm that my BTC balance i.e. the BTC that was exchanged for the XCP that I no longer have, will also be restored?

It will be, when the BTC is returned. All BTC is accounted for, just awaiting the return of the funds.

my XCP balance has not been restored yet.. how is this working?

[jimhsu]

Someone called "busoni" registered an account at the Counterparty forums and made a post:

https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php?topic=127.new#new

Can busoni please verify this, preferably by signing a message with a key? If not, I'll delete the thread.

It isn't absolute proof, but he did essentially cross-post here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395761.msg5284606#msg5284606.

I'm not sure what you mean by signing a message, but I linked to this thread from bitcointalk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395761.msg5284606#msg5284606


And I will now transfer 1.32 XCP from 15vA2MJ4ESG3Rt1PVQ79D1LFMBBNtcSz1f to the donation account.

Thanks, that will be sufficient proof.

Just wanted to make sure that the community is on the safe side. We've seen our share of scams already.

I'll start off with the donations. Again, please pitch in regardless of how much you've burned! I have comparatively little.

[gitinahang]

Okay, people seem to think donations are the best way to go. I agree. I think taxing Poloniex balances or everyone's XCP balances would be disastrous.

I have created a thread on the Counterparty forums for donations: https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,127.0.html

The total missing is actually about 6100 XCP instead of 7000, as some people had not yet withdrawn and I was able to deduct balances.

Your donations are greatly appreciated, and as soon as the missing XCP is covered, I will open up withdrawals so people can get at their XCP.

What happens if more than 6100 is donated? Don't you guys think it is better to have the devs control the donations that way if and when it goes over 6100 they can give it to

busoni and the rest can be used as donation for the devs. Busoni, don't you think you should cover a portion of that 6100 as the exchange owner? I would think at least 20%

of the 6100. You don't think you bear that much responsibility for what happened? Previous postings were right when they said a lot of people are going to hide behind

the anonymity and not donate even if they say they will. I find it hard to believe 6100 will get donated. What will you do if it is not met?

[rwfreshmore]

Okay, people seem to think donations are the best way to go. I agree. I think taxing Poloniex balances or everyone's XCP balances would be disastrous.

I have created a thread on the Counterparty forums for donations: https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,127.0.html

The total missing is actually about 6100 XCP instead of 7000, as some people had not yet withdrawn and I was able to deduct balances.

Your donations are greatly appreciated, and as soon as the missing XCP is covered, I will open up withdrawals so people can get at their XCP.

What happens if more than 6100 is donated? Don't you guys think it is better to have the devs control the donations that way if and when it goes over 6100 they can give it to

busoni and the rest can be used as donation for the devs. Busoni, don't you think you should cover a portion of that 6100 as the exchange owner? I would think at least 20%

of the 6100. You don't think you bear that much responsibility for what happened? Previous postings were right when they said a lot of people are going to hide behind

the anonymity and not donate even if they say they will. I find it hard to believe 6100 will get donated. What will you do if it is not met?

I just logged into Poloniex to see how things were going and noticed XCP was removed. I bought ~1000 XCP on the 16-17th.

BTC/XCP   Buy   0.0138   521.22052782   7.19284328 BTC   2014-02-17 06:41:52
BTC/XCP   Buy   0.0138   0.51860261   0.00715671 BTC   2014-02-17 02:21:58
BTC/XCP   Buy   0.015822   125.30630705   1.98259639 BTC   2014-02-16 19:09:24
BTC/XCP   Buy   0.015822   94.69369295   1.49824360 BTC   2014-02-16 18:04:32
BTC/XCP   Buy   0.01899   100   1.899 BTC   2014-02-16 17:41:23
BTC/XCP   Buy   0.01898   100   1.898 BTC   2014-02-16 17:41:18
BTC/XCP   Buy   0.017   9.481   0.161177 BTC   2014-02-16 16:26:13
BTC/XCP   Buy   0.017   16.59352784   0.28208997 BTC   2014-02-16 16:26:13

That is over half my total crypto holdings. Gone in a puff of smoke? Fuck me.

[TheMightyX]

Announcement: Desktop GUI bounty funds to be distributed.

The funds at the bounty address amount to:

• 7.41790989 BTC
• 1856.13963636 XCP

There were two submissions for the "desktop GUI" bounty - one from JahPowerBit, and one from btcfanatic. Between these two users, funds at the bounty address will be split thus:

• JahPowerBit will receive: 4.45074594 BTC and 1113.68378182 XCP
• btcfanatic will receive: 2.96716395 BTC and 742.45585454 XCP

In other words, JahPowerBit will receive 60% of the bounty funds, and btcfanatic will receive 40% of the bounty funds.

JahPowerBit has demonstrated enthusiasm and initiative, and has made a functioning web GUI. He has also detailed his plans for the future, and has recruited other community members to help him achieve the goals he has set out.

JahPowerBit's GUI has wider functionality than btcfanatic's, but btcfanatic's architecture was more what we had in mind. With that said, we imagine users will have a harder time getting btcfanatic's GUI to work than JahPowerBit's.

While both GUIs are cross-platform, they lack build systems for Windows. Going forward, this is very important.

We strongly encourage the community to get involved: test out the GUIs, interact and collaborate with the developers, and give them feedback. Counterparty is a community driven project, and will progress most effectively if the community works together.

Thanks very much to both JahPowerBit and btcfanatic for participating in the Desktop GUI bounty, and helping the Counterparty protocol become more user-friendly. And thanks to the community for providing donations, to help motivate developers.

We are discussing further bounties which should leverage what has been achieve with the desktop GUI bounty. Please stay tuned.

btcfanatic and JahPowerBit, please email your addresses to <bounties@counterparty.co>.

This is cross-posted from the bounty thread on the official Counterparty forums.

EDIT: Of course, here are the GUI submissions:

• JahPowerBit's: https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,8.msg501.html#msg501.
• btcfanatic's: https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,8.msg579.html#msg579.

Here is an update on JahPowerBits UI:



It's almost complete. I don't suppose there's still time to snag 100% of that bounty?
heh.
You already know the feature list. This iteration has animated menus, an animated screen flow and adaptive elements. Also working on several theme options (Light/dark/colors). If anyone has any suggestions for color pairings please let me know.
Working as fast as I can -_-
Will have more updates soon.

[delulo]

Announcement: Desktop GUI bounty funds to be distributed.

The funds at the bounty address amount to:

• 7.41790989 BTC
• 1856.13963636 XCP

There were two submissions for the "desktop GUI" bounty - one from JahPowerBit, and one from btcfanatic. Between these two users, funds at the bounty address will be split thus:

• JahPowerBit will receive: 4.45074594 BTC and 1113.68378182 XCP
• btcfanatic will receive: 2.96716395 BTC and 742.45585454 XCP

In other words, JahPowerBit will receive 60% of the bounty funds, and btcfanatic will receive 40% of the bounty funds.

JahPowerBit has demonstrated enthusiasm and initiative, and has made a functioning web GUI. He has also detailed his plans for the future, and has recruited other community members to help him achieve the goals he has set out.

JahPowerBit's GUI has wider functionality than btcfanatic's, but btcfanatic's architecture was more what we had in mind. With that said, we imagine users will have a harder time getting btcfanatic's GUI to work than JahPowerBit's.

While both GUIs are cross-platform, they lack build systems for Windows. Going forward, this is very important.

We strongly encourage the community to get involved: test out the GUIs, interact and collaborate with the developers, and give them feedback. Counterparty is a community driven project, and will progress most effectively if the community works together.

Thanks very much to both JahPowerBit and btcfanatic for participating in the Desktop GUI bounty, and helping the Counterparty protocol become more user-friendly. And thanks to the community for providing donations, to help motivate developers.

We are discussing further bounties which should leverage what has been achieve with the desktop GUI bounty. Please stay tuned.

btcfanatic and JahPowerBit, please email your addresses to <bounties@counterparty.co>.

This is cross-posted from the bounty thread on the official Counterparty forums.

EDIT: Of course, here are the GUI submissions:

• JahPowerBit's: https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,8.msg501.html#msg501.
• btcfanatic's: https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,8.msg579.html#msg579.

If anyone figured out how to get this working on Windows. Please, post instructions.

I have posted a first Windows build for the JahPowerBit GUI (BoottleXCP) here:
 https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php?topic=74.msg760#msg760

Be aware that this build and the BoottleXCP GUI itself are both still in alpha - although the build process is based on my previous Electrum and Chainsnort builds, so that should be pretty robust already.

will this be in line with the bug fix?

[Spekulatius]

I know you mean well and recovering the XCP would be good for the community at large.

There is no reason to think that these users knew that there was something malicious going on when they took their gains.

Allow the users to make the choice themselves without being coerced.

I don't think any user knew that there was something malicious going on when they took their gains (I myself bought some xcp @ 0.002)
but now we do know exactly what happened.

If i understand what you are saying than why don't allow all of poloniex users to make the choice for themselves and don't rollback?

the answer is simple in my opinion - if we can get everything back to where it was before the 35,000 xcp sell that will be the best thing for all users. For clarification i don't think any treats should be used i just think it will be helpful if we knew who we need to speak to in order to get this situation behind us asap.

I totally agree. I just don't want people getitng the wrong ideas  

Yes why dont roll back the database to before the dump so the 6100 outstanding XCP are back to where they legitimately belong? (given busoni restores the BTC balances of those that withdrew their 6100 XCP after the dump because they would be out of BTC and XCP)

Which database are you talking about--Poloniex's or Counterparty's?

Im talking about the Counterparty Database. I guess the first attempt to roll back was well intended but was just a bit off by a few minutes with rolling back up until after the dump because the situation was not clear and a community consensus missing (still is). So by rolling back up until before the dump all the outstanding XCP will be back in their original holders pockets at Poloniex (sorry guys but the cheap XCP you withdrew are not meant to be yours) and if you busoni, refill the BTC balances of the users that withdrew their cheap XCP, everybody will be made whole again, as far as we can have an effect on it. Only the hacker's BTC would be outstanding in that case which he already pledged to return.

[JahPowerBit]

Announcement: Desktop GUI bounty funds to be distributed.

The funds at the bounty address amount to:

• 7.41790989 BTC
• 1856.13963636 XCP

There were two submissions for the "desktop GUI" bounty - one from JahPowerBit, and one from btcfanatic. Between these two users, funds at the bounty address will be split thus:

• JahPowerBit will receive: 4.45074594 BTC and 1113.68378182 XCP
• btcfanatic will receive: 2.96716395 BTC and 742.45585454 XCP

In other words, JahPowerBit will receive 60% of the bounty funds, and btcfanatic will receive 40% of the bounty funds.

JahPowerBit has demonstrated enthusiasm and initiative, and has made a functioning web GUI. He has also detailed his plans for the future, and has recruited other community members to help him achieve the goals he has set out.

JahPowerBit's GUI has wider functionality than btcfanatic's, but btcfanatic's architecture was more what we had in mind. With that said, we imagine users will have a harder time getting btcfanatic's GUI to work than JahPowerBit's.

While both GUIs are cross-platform, they lack build systems for Windows. Going forward, this is very important.

We strongly encourage the community to get involved: test out the GUIs, interact and collaborate with the developers, and give them feedback. Counterparty is a community driven project, and will progress most effectively if the community works together.

Thanks very much to both JahPowerBit and btcfanatic for participating in the Desktop GUI bounty, and helping the Counterparty protocol become more user-friendly. And thanks to the community for providing donations, to help motivate developers.

We are discussing further bounties which should leverage what has been achieve with the desktop GUI bounty. Please stay tuned.

btcfanatic and JahPowerBit, please email your addresses to <bounties@counterparty.co>.

This is cross-posted from the bounty thread on the official Counterparty forums.

EDIT: Of course, here are the GUI submissions:

• JahPowerBit's: https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,8.msg501.html#msg501.
• btcfanatic's: https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,8.msg579.html#msg579.

Thank you very much to all the donators and the development team.
We will do our best to provide you, faster as possible, builds for windows and macos.
Your suggestions and feedbacks are necessary to make a product at the top. Thank you in advance.

[cityglut]

I know you mean well and recovering the XCP would be good for the community at large.

There is no reason to think that these users knew that there was something malicious going on when they took their gains.

Allow the users to make the choice themselves without being coerced.

I don't think any user knew that there was something malicious going on when they took their gains (I myself bought some xcp @ 0.002)
but now we do know exactly what happened.

If i understand what you are saying than why don't allow all of poloniex users to make the choice for themselves and don't rollback?

the answer is simple in my opinion - if we can get everything back to where it was before the 35,000 xcp sell that will be the best thing for all users. For clarification i don't think any treats should be used i just think it will be helpful if we knew who we need to speak to in order to get this situation behind us asap.

I totally agree. I just don't want people getitng the wrong ideas  

Yes why dont roll back the database to before the dump so the 6100 outstanding XCP are back to where they legitimately belong? (given busoni restores the BTC balances of those that withdrew their 6100 XCP after the dump because they would be out of BTC and XCP)

Which database are you talking about--Poloniex's or Counterparty's?

Im talking about the Counterparty Database. I guess the first attempt to roll back was well intended but was just a bit off by a few minutes with rolling back up until after the dump because the situation was not clear and a community consensus missing (still is). So by rolling back up until before the dump all the outstanding XCP will be back in their original holders pockets at Poloniex (sorry guys but the cheap XCP you withdrew are not meant to be yours) and if you busoni, refill the BTC balances of the users that withdrew their cheap XCP, everybody will be made whole again, as far as we can have an effect on it. Only the hacker's BTC would be outstanding in that case which he already pledged to return.

We cannot roll back BTC transactions, so what you are suggesting would require busoni to personally pay out-of-pocket for people's losses, i.e. around 100 BTC.

We hope that the hacker will do the right thing, but we cannot base our actions on that hope; we can only act "as if" the hacker has returned the BTC when he has returned the BTC. Until then, those who want to help make things right are encouraged either to donate to our "security bug" address: 14Tf35AovvRVURzd623q5i9kry2EW8WzyL or to busoni's donation address: 15buRLRW47AY9Md3mpFj17Yp6w4BtfMRjc.

[wizzardTim]

Announcement: Desktop GUI bounty funds to be distributed.

The funds at the bounty address amount to:

• 7.41790989 BTC
• 1856.13963636 XCP

There were two submissions for the "desktop GUI" bounty - one from JahPowerBit, and one from btcfanatic. Between these two users, funds at the bounty address will be split thus:

• JahPowerBit will receive: 4.45074594 BTC and 1113.68378182 XCP
• btcfanatic will receive: 2.96716395 BTC and 742.45585454 XCP

In other words, JahPowerBit will receive 60% of the bounty funds, and btcfanatic will receive 40% of the bounty funds.

JahPowerBit has demonstrated enthusiasm and initiative, and has made a functioning web GUI. He has also detailed his plans for the future, and has recruited other community members to help him achieve the goals he has set out.

JahPowerBit's GUI has wider functionality than btcfanatic's, but btcfanatic's architecture was more what we had in mind. With that said, we imagine users will have a harder time getting btcfanatic's GUI to work than JahPowerBit's.

While both GUIs are cross-platform, they lack build systems for Windows. Going forward, this is very important.

We strongly encourage the community to get involved: test out the GUIs, interact and collaborate with the developers, and give them feedback. Counterparty is a community driven project, and will progress most effectively if the community works together.

Thanks very much to both JahPowerBit and btcfanatic for participating in the Desktop GUI bounty, and helping the Counterparty protocol become more user-friendly. And thanks to the community for providing donations, to help motivate developers.

We are discussing further bounties which should leverage what has been achieve with the desktop GUI bounty. Please stay tuned.

btcfanatic and JahPowerBit, please email your addresses to <bounties@counterparty.co>.

This is cross-posted from the bounty thread on the official Counterparty forums.

EDIT: Of course, here are the GUI submissions:

• JahPowerBit's: https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,8.msg501.html#msg501.
• btcfanatic's: https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php/topic,8.msg579.html#msg579.

Here is an update on JahPowerBits UI:



It's almost complete. I don't suppose there's still time to snag 100% of that bounty?
heh.
You already know the feature list. This iteration has animated menus, an animated screen flow and adaptive elements. Also working on several theme options (Light/dark/colors). If anyone has any suggestions for color pairings please let me know.
Working as fast as I can -_-
Will have more updates soon.

That is absolutely wonderful!!!

The best GUI I've seen since a long time.

Price will skyrocket. Wow