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October 07, 2014, 08:13:50 PM
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Sorry, it's broken, I'll get it running as soon as I could....
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October 08, 2014, 01:53:39 AM
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Sorry, it's broken, I'll get it running as soon as I could....

thx. no worries :-) no hurries.

Suggestion: Put up an "under-construction" sign until then.

Right now XCP and its ecosphere gets a lot of attention
- e.g. by me :-) Trying out how everything-counterparty works.



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October 08, 2014, 02:43:48 AM
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Robby and I just wanted to say thank you for all of your support. We are very excited to create the first cryptofinance platform, with Overstock, directly on Counterparty.

As to the details of the platform, I cannot say anything at this time, but as this project develops, we should have some great announcements. Smiley

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October 08, 2014, 03:06:21 AM
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Congratulations Evan, awesome news. Thanks for everything you do.

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October 08, 2014, 03:30:02 AM
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Congratulations !

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October 08, 2014, 08:58:34 AM
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What if the core devs shorten the OP_RETURN again?

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October 08, 2014, 09:08:56 AM
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What if the core devs shorten the OP_RETURN again?


Eligius has set the OP_RETURN limit to 80. Not sure about the other mines.

Besides, I remember that the devs said that even with 40 bytes OP_RETURN (possible for a simple Counterparty asset send, for instance) the transaction takes too much time to be confirmed.

I guess that consensus takes time to achieve. Medici could help them change their mind.
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October 08, 2014, 09:10:08 AM
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What if the core devs shorten the OP_RETURN again?


What if the core devs collaborate with Counterparty team to develop the sidechain?

Bitcoin collaborate with Counterparty would be a win-win decision.

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October 08, 2014, 09:20:16 AM
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Adam

it sounds great and revolutionary!


Anyway, I dont really seem to understand

Are you guys building a nasdaq like stock exchange? where everyone would trade stocks using counterparty coin?

how would the traditional brick-n-mortal companies get listed on your exchange? what will be the procedures?

What do you foresee the future of Medici? What's Medici role in this?

What are your visions?


Kindly advise

Thanks

Unfortunately, the implementation details aren't something I can really talk about right now.


Well understood

just 2 general questions then

Will I buy stocks on counterparty with your coin?

Is it a good time to invest in XCP now aka buy more XCP

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Haha, I can't answer those questions either! Wink

But you can't answer with a "Smiley" or you can't answer with a "Sad"?
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XCP started in Jan. 2014, I think it is still in early stage. Invest early is better than late.
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October 08, 2014, 09:22:57 AM
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The price is going down it seems, is it still cheap or was this a one time pump?
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October 08, 2014, 09:40:25 AM
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What if the core devs shorten the OP_RETURN again?


Eligius has set the OP_RETURN limit to 80. Not sure about the other mines.

Besides, I remember that the devs said that even with 40 bytes OP_RETURN (possible for a simple Counterparty asset send, for instance) the transaction takes too much time to be confirmed.

I guess that consensus takes time to achieve. Medici could help them change their mind.
OP_RETURN in Counterparty is currently not used in lieu of multisig transactions due to, as a comment in the code states, BTC Guild doesn't mine OP_RETURN. Hopefully sanity will prevail and 80+ byte OP_RETURN will be widely mined.
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October 08, 2014, 09:42:11 AM
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OP_RETURN in Counterparty is currently not used in lieu of multisig transactions due to, as a comment in the code states, BTC Guild doesn't mine OP_RETURN. Hopefully sanity will prevail and 80+ byte OP_RETURN will be widely mined.
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Ok just wasnt sure what the latest is on all that, so of BTC Guild mines a block then ZERO counterparty actions take place, currently.

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October 08, 2014, 09:42:55 AM
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The price is going down it seems, is it still cheap or was this a one time pump?
Of course there will be some pull back from a high but who knows what the future holds. In any case, it's best to take price talk and speculation to https://forums.counterparty.io/discussion/701/xcp-price-speculation
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October 08, 2014, 09:43:54 AM
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OP_RETURN in Counterparty is currently not used in lieu of multisig transactions due to, as a comment in the code states, BTC Guild doesn't mine OP_RETURN. Hopefully sanity will prevail and 80+ byte OP_RETURN will be widely mined.
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Ok just wasnt sure what the latest is on all that, so of BTC Guild mines a block then ZERO counterparty actions take place, currently.
Not true. The Counterparty software currently encodes extra data as multisig transactions which are indeed mined, that's why OP_RETURN is not used now.
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October 08, 2014, 09:45:23 AM
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The price is going down it seems, is it still cheap or was this a one time pump?

If Overstock starts trading their shares on Counterparty platform, there is a high chance that they will issue a OVRSTCK/BTC trading pair and that trading pair would enjoy most of the volume. As far as I know Counterparty allows asset-to-asset trading. CEO of Overstock being invested in Bitcoin and being the market maker for their own shares would be willing to support the price of Bitcoin, and would only need a small amount of XCP for transaction fees. Same would go for buyers of Overstock shares. It's not clear how this would help drive demand for XCP.
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October 08, 2014, 09:46:50 AM
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Not true. The Counterparty software currently encodes extra data as multisig transactions which are indeed mined, that's why OP_RETURN is not used now.
ok thanks for clearing that up

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October 08, 2014, 09:47:47 AM
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There needs to be more discussion on the official Counterparty Forums - https://forums.counterparty.io/

The more people involved the better!

For example, I would appreciate help with developing some of the ideas in this thread - https://forums.counterparty.io/discussion/418/the-crossparty-protocol#latest

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October 08, 2014, 10:18:43 AM
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The price is going down it seems, is it still cheap or was this a one time pump?

If Overstock starts trading their shares on Counterparty platform, there is a high chance that they will issue a OVRSTCK/BTC trading pair and that trading pair would enjoy most of the volume. As far as I know Counterparty allows asset-to-asset trading. CEO of Overstock being invested in Bitcoin and being the market maker for their own shares would be willing to support the price of Bitcoin, and would only need a small amount of XCP for transaction fees. Same would go for buyers of Overstock shares. It's not clear how this would help drive demand for XCP.

the thing is that they do not only want to write a security on counterparty (which I assumed) but use the protocol in a wider way and built a whole front end application. let us see how and in what way they will use xcp. Following the early posts of the core developers, they said that they only get monetarily rewarded by their protocol building in the case that the native currency is gaining traction.

all that being said it is a great announcement for counterparty - do not forget this is little more than 9 months old.
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October 08, 2014, 12:38:59 PM
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The price is going down it seems, is it still cheap or was this a one time pump?

Whenever a security goes on a short-term upswing more sellers enter the market to book profits. Maybe some have been holding for months and now want to cash in some sweet gains.

I would be happy to hold my XCP for a long time as really, the Overstock announcement is just the beginning of a burgeoning ecosystem of financial tools/services built on the platform.
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October 08, 2014, 12:47:40 PM
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The price is going down it seems, is it still cheap or was this a one time pump?

If Overstock starts trading their shares on Counterparty platform, there is a high chance that they will issue a OVRSTCK/BTC trading pair and that trading pair would enjoy most of the volume. As far as I know Counterparty allows asset-to-asset trading. CEO of Overstock being invested in Bitcoin and being the market maker for their own shares would be willing to support the price of Bitcoin, and would only need a small amount of XCP for transaction fees. Same would go for buyers of Overstock shares. It's not clear how this would help drive demand for XCP.
1. OVRSTCK/BTC needs btcPay which replies on the buyer's decision to finished the transaction
2. the CEO may have also invested in XCP already, he is a pioneer in BTC, he will be the same in BTC2.0.
3. OVRSTCK/XCP is more feasible trading pair. This will drive the price/value in XCP
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