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Author Topic: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty - Pioneering Peer-to-Peer Finance - Official Thread  (Read 1276776 times)
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October 11, 2014, 03:17:19 PM
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Can anyone explain me where i find the XCP wallet? I bought some XCP on BTER and want to put it cold storage.
I only see github links but i cant compile.

If you want to put it into cold storage, you can put it on any BTC address where you own the private key. If you want to retrieve your funds from cold storage, you can then import the private key into http://counterwallet.io.

Or you can create an armory offline address:
http://support.counterparty.io/support/articles/5000004858-cold-storage-of-counterparty-assets-btc-using-armory-

Ok. so if i understand correctly, i can use BTC adresses to send my counterparty to?Huh
Only BTC addresses you have private keys. So it means you cannot send to your address in exchanges or some online wallets you don't have private keys (bitcoin.info wallet is fine).

Ok so if i make a wallet with Multibit, and safe that keys (wallet.dat & password) i am good to go?
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October 11, 2014, 03:34:06 PM
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Can anyone explain me where i find the XCP wallet? I bought some XCP on BTER and want to put it cold storage.
I only see github links but i cant compile.

https://counterwallet.io/

ok so this is a web wllet.

is that decentralized peer 2 peer or is this hosted? sorry for my mistakes but im not so good in tech

It's not hosted; the private keys are generated client-side.
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October 11, 2014, 03:45:14 PM
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Can anyone explain me where i find the XCP wallet? I bought some XCP on BTER and want to put it cold storage.
I only see github links but i cant compile.

https://counterwallet.io/

ok so this is a web wllet.

is that decentralized peer 2 peer or is this hosted? sorry for my mistakes but im not so good in tech

It's not hosted; the private keys are generated client-side.

we need a simple to install desktop version.   c annot beleive it's centralised on a website!
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October 11, 2014, 03:48:07 PM
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Can anyone explain me where i find the XCP wallet? I bought some XCP on BTER and want to put it cold storage.
I only see github links but i cant compile.

https://counterwallet.io/

ok so this is a web wllet.

is that decentralized peer 2 peer or is this hosted? sorry for my mistakes but im not so good in tech

It's not hosted; the private keys are generated client-side.

we need a simple to install desktop version.   c annot beleive it's centralised on a website!

Your password never goes to the site. it stays on your machine and the wallet is opened through some hash trickery or something. Nobody ever has access to your private key, except you.

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October 11, 2014, 03:50:23 PM
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Ok great, i just bought some XCP. How long does it take to send them to the counterwallet? waiting for 30 mins now. Tongue
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October 11, 2014, 03:53:32 PM
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Ok great, i just bought some XCP. How long does it take to send them to the counterwallet? waiting for 30 mins now. Tongue

It depends on where you bought them. The easiest way to check transaction status is by entering the addresses associated with the transaction in the search box, here: http://blockscan.com/

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October 11, 2014, 05:31:42 PM
Last edit: October 11, 2014, 05:47:58 PM by Equality 7-2521
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Any ideas on some of the topics being covered in this thread? - https://forums.counterparty.io/discussion/418/the-crossparty-protocol#latest.

Specifically the "Complementary-Chain" topic.

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October 11, 2014, 06:51:15 PM
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Ok great, i just bought some XCP. How long does it take to send them to the counterwallet? waiting for 30 mins now. Tongue

It depends on where you bought them. The easiest way to check transaction status is by entering the addresses associated with the transaction in the search box, here: http://blockscan.com/

Mtbitcoin has also just introduced seeing zero confirmation transactions at http://blockscan.com/pending. Viewing an address will show unconfirmed tranactions as dimmed.
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October 11, 2014, 07:00:28 PM
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Any ideas on some of the topics being covered in this thread? - https://forums.counterparty.io/discussion/418/the-crossparty-protocol#latest.

Specifically the "Complementary-Chain" topic.

My initial thought on running Counterparty on two chains is that it will take resources. Resources that will no longer be going to the speediest possible development of Counterparty on Bitcoin. It's a good idea. However, I think we're a bit early to start seriously considering trying to run Counterparty on two blockchains unless there is a person or team that wants to take responsibility for the project.

Regarding your comments wondering about the migration capabilities and strategy. If I recall correctly, Adam said it would only take a day or so to migrate Counterparty to another blockchain, although I don't think he has any intention of doing so as the advantage of being on Bitcoin is so great.


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October 12, 2014, 12:45:21 AM
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Can anyone explain me where i find the XCP wallet? I bought some XCP on BTER and want to put it cold storage.
I only see github links but i cant compile.

If you want to put it into cold storage, you can put it on any BTC address where you own the private key. If you want to retrieve your funds from cold storage, you can then import the private key into http://counterwallet.io.

Or you can create an armory offline address:
http://support.counterparty.io/support/articles/5000004858-cold-storage-of-counterparty-assets-btc-using-armory-

Ok. so if i understand correctly, i can use BTC adresses to send my counterparty to?Huh
Only BTC addresses you have private keys. So it means you cannot send to your address in exchanges or some online wallets you don't have private keys (bitcoin.info wallet is fine).

Ok so if i make a wallet with Multibit, and safe that keys (wallet.dat & password) i am good to go?
Yes.
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October 12, 2014, 06:58:50 AM
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One good thing that will come out of this that BTC cartel will realize that XCP is actually enhancing its usability. We will have less of Lucas Jr. types trying to police the transactions.

Actually Eligius (Luke Jr pool) is the first to process OP_RETURN 80 bytes transactions.

Wow, didn't know that. I remember him coming over in this thread several months back and being very aggressive and threatening. That was when I realized the problems of BTC centralization by the cartel.






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October 12, 2014, 08:32:11 AM
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One good thing that will come out of this that BTC cartel will realize that XCP is actually enhancing its usability. We will have less of Lucas Jr. types trying to police the transactions.

Actually Eligius (Luke Jr pool) is the first to process OP_RETURN 80 bytes transactions.

Wow, didn't know that. I remember him coming over in this thread several months back and being very aggressive and threatening. That was when I realized the problems of BTC centralization by the cartel.
Counterparty is still in the blacklist of his bitcoind.
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October 12, 2014, 08:59:26 AM
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can anyone explain me. I currently have my XCP at counterewallet.io

what happends if this site goes down/offline? Can i still use my 12 words to retrieve my xcp ?
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October 12, 2014, 09:19:10 AM
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One good thing that will come out of this that BTC cartel will realize that XCP is actually enhancing its usability. We will have less of Lucas Jr. types trying to police the transactions.

Actually Eligius (Luke Jr pool) is the first to process OP_RETURN 80 bytes transactions.

Wow, didn't know that. I remember him coming over in this thread several months back and being very aggressive and threatening. That was when I realized the problems of BTC centralization by the cartel.
Counterparty is still in the blacklist of his bitcoind.
Only the format harmful to Bitcoin. Didn't you change to OP_RETURN months ago?

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October 12, 2014, 09:46:50 AM
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One good thing that will come out of this that BTC cartel will realize that XCP is actually enhancing its usability. We will have less of Lucas Jr. types trying to police the transactions.

Actually Eligius (Luke Jr pool) is the first to process OP_RETURN 80 bytes transactions.

Wow, didn't know that. I remember him coming over in this thread several months back and being very aggressive and threatening. That was when I realized the problems of BTC centralization by the cartel.
Counterparty is still in the blacklist of his bitcoind.
Only the format harmful to Bitcoin. Didn't you change to OP_RETURN months ago?

For all of the transactions to work they need 80 bytes. Some way along if I recall correctly, there was an attempt to put certain transactions through with an OP_Return (40 bytes) but that was shelved aside as the transactions were taking longer than usual (possibly due to miners blocking/not processing OP_Return ??)

I am assuming that once the OP_Return (80 bytes) is "mainstream" the shift to using OP_Return will occur

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October 12, 2014, 10:12:50 AM
Last edit: October 12, 2014, 10:24:23 AM by famous.names
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Can anyone explain me where i find the XCP wallet? I bought some XCP on BTER and want to put it cold storage.
I only see github links but i cant compile.

https://counterwallet.io/

ok so this is a web wllet.

is that decentralized peer 2 peer or is this hosted? sorry for my mistakes but im not so good in tech

It's not hosted; the private keys are generated client-side.

we need a simple to install desktop version.   c annot beleive it's centralised on a website!

Your password never goes to the site. it stays on your machine and the wallet is opened through some hash trickery or something. Nobody ever has access to your private key, except you.

Not impressed. You'r still putting all your trust in that website to submit transactions correctly and fairly for you.  What ever happened to a wallet that you can run on your own machine?
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October 12, 2014, 10:16:30 AM
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One good thing that will come out of this that BTC cartel will realize that XCP is actually enhancing its usability. We will have less of Lucas Jr. types trying to police the transactions.

Actually Eligius (Luke Jr pool) is the first to process OP_RETURN 80 bytes transactions.

Wow, didn't know that. I remember him coming over in this thread several months back and being very aggressive and threatening. That was when I realized the problems of BTC centralization by the cartel.
Counterparty is still in the blacklist of his bitcoind.
Only the format harmful to Bitcoin. Didn't you change to OP_RETURN months ago?

Nice to see that you have start accept Counterparty possibility with bitcoin. And great work for all CP devs with overstock what ever news there is coming I hope we will see that soon in price Smiley
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October 12, 2014, 01:45:08 PM
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One good thing that will come out of this that BTC cartel will realize that XCP is actually enhancing its usability. We will have less of Lucas Jr. types trying to police the transactions.

Actually Eligius (Luke Jr pool) is the first to process OP_RETURN 80 bytes transactions.

Wow, didn't know that. I remember him coming over in this thread several months back and being very aggressive and threatening. That was when I realized the problems of BTC centralization by the cartel.
Counterparty is still in the blacklist of his bitcoind.
Only the format harmful to Bitcoin. Didn't you change to OP_RETURN months ago?

For all of the transactions to work they need 80 bytes. Some way along if I recall correctly, there was an attempt to put certain transactions through with an OP_Return (40 bytes) but that was shelved aside as the transactions were taking longer than usual (possibly due to miners blocking/not processing OP_Return ??)

I am assuming that once the OP_Return (80 bytes) is "mainstream" the shift to using OP_Return will occur
As far as I know, simple send is already encoded as 40 bytes OP-RETURN, but will only be put into the counter wallet when majority of nodes and mining pools use 0.9.x
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October 12, 2014, 01:50:36 PM
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Can anyone explain me where i find the XCP wallet? I bought some XCP on BTER and want to put it cold storage.
I only see github links but i cant compile.

https://counterwallet.io/

ok so this is a web wllet.

is that decentralized peer 2 peer or is this hosted? sorry for my mistakes but im not so good in tech

It's not hosted; the private keys are generated client-side.

we need a simple to install desktop version.   c annot beleive it's centralised on a website!

Your password never goes to the site. it stays on your machine and the wallet is opened through some hash trickery or something. Nobody ever has access to your private key, except you.


Not impressed. You'r still putting all your trust in that website to submit transactions correctly and fairly for you.  What ever happened to a wallet that you can run on your own machine?
It is a wallet run on your own machine. Just the programming language is JavaScript and the browser is the interpreter. A program written in Other language will not be any safer. That said, an independent wallet is still a good plus. Maybe based on WebKit so less extra work to do.
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October 12, 2014, 02:08:25 PM
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As far as I know, simple send is already encoded as 40 bytes OP-RETURN, but will only be put into the counter wallet when majority of nodes and mining pools use 0.9.x

hmmphh... I am not too sure but I don't remember seeing an OP_return in the output script of the send transactions

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