Rofo (OP)
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May 26, 2014, 01:46:59 PM |
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EDIT: why not offer 30% discount at the beginning? again you guys want everyone else to buy NOBL up! We can't handle straight off the bat a huge flood of orders something like that would attract.
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kresu
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May 26, 2014, 02:02:31 PM |
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In the meantime... I'm really proud to announce that the Noble Community managed to collect 318000 NOBL for the noble cause of funding the Safe, Open, Ecological Playground for Children on Stacja Wolimierz, Poland!http://simplynoble.net is my site with infos about Noble team taking part of that crowdfunding. (I hope that the site itself will also have other purposes in near future You can leave a comment there! (I think so) And, you can still donate! (as there is still 29 days left of the fundraising): 9X1Jwnsn3X5YY4TYtpW2dPUHTYAHU7XzyXhttp://chainz.cryptoid.info/nobl/address.dws?9X1Jwnsn3X5YY4TYtpW2dPUHTYAHU7XzyX.htmAt the current NOBL/BTC price (21 satoshi) it would be a pity to convert them now, but still they are worth more than 110 PLN. ($35) I think we can achieve 200 PLN with very little effort (200 PLN would be a significant 1% of the whole fundsraising, which has the final goal set at 20k PLN). More infos about the town, the theatre, the foundation, and the current crowdfunding project can be found under these links: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolimierz["The cultural life in the area has been promoted lately by the Stacja Wolimierz gallery and theatre, located in a deserted train station of Wolimierz. There are several international festivals and workshops that are held there each year."] http://polakpotrafi.pl/projekt/plac[The main crowdfunding project, use Google Translate if not understandable at all ;] http://stacja.wolimierz.info.pl/infohttp://stacja.wolimierz.info.pl/interplanetary-kingdom-of-arthttp://www.klinikalalek.art.pl/index.php?id=english.htmAgain, thank you all!
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Git_2058
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May 26, 2014, 02:22:14 PM |
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EDIT: why not offer 30% discount at the beginning? again you guys want everyone else to buy NOBL up! We can't handle straight off the bat a huge flood of orders something like that would attract. DEV, frankly speaking I am holding NOBL, but when I knew the richest list, somehow I am surprised by the big holders (few are NOBL reserve) and feel unsafe, what if they dump the coins?
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May 26, 2014, 02:25:09 PM |
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EDIT: why not offer 30% discount at the beginning? again you guys want everyone else to buy NOBL up! We can't handle straight off the bat a huge flood of orders something like that would attract. DEV, frankly speaking I am holding NOBL, but when I knew the richest list, somehow I am surprised by the big holders (few are NOBL reserve) and feel unsafe, what if they dump the coins? I see a problem in it, too. There are some guys holding huge amounts. and thats not good imo.
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onebutton
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May 26, 2014, 02:28:00 PM |
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Must say that I appreciate all the thought that is going into noblecoin!
Agree with you Wish us luck The price can be a little higher
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NorrisK
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May 26, 2014, 02:44:24 PM |
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EDIT: why not offer 30% discount at the beginning? again you guys want everyone else to buy NOBL up! We can't handle straight off the bat a huge flood of orders something like that would attract. DEV, frankly speaking I am holding NOBL, but when I knew the richest list, somehow I am surprised by the big holders (few are NOBL reserve) and feel unsafe, what if they dump the coins? A great amount are also probably still unlisted exchange adresses. Yes, there are a few big holders, but they already stated that they are in this for the long run. (some bought at 200+ and don't want to take a 10x loss and beleive in noblecoin)
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GBattaglia
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May 26, 2014, 02:53:07 PM |
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Transferring a sum of BTC to Poloniex; time to buy again.
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Git_2058
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May 26, 2014, 02:53:25 PM |
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EDIT: why not offer 30% discount at the beginning? again you guys want everyone else to buy NOBL up! We can't handle straight off the bat a huge flood of orders something like that would attract. DEV, frankly speaking I am holding NOBL, but when I knew the richest list, somehow I am surprised by the big holders (few are NOBL reserve) and feel unsafe, what if they dump the coins? I see a problem in it, too. There are some guys holding huge amounts. and thats not good imo. I was told there is a ledger about the premine, this kind of information should be in a place easy to identify, ANN thread at least. I am not saying something bad about NOBL, but most likely what I can see is what other people can find too. If you tell me the price is very low right now, and can go 300 sat some day, surely I will invest some BTC into it, but when I know there is a richest list and premine holders, just fee safe to invest more. Dev, why don't you giveaway a portion of coin into the community, and spread the goodness of NOBL too. NOBL also need some stuffs, one example is a nice official block explorer; notice BTC benefits a lot from blockchain.info. NOBL should do that too.
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Git_2058
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May 26, 2014, 02:57:17 PM |
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EDIT: why not offer 30% discount at the beginning? again you guys want everyone else to buy NOBL up! We can't handle straight off the bat a huge flood of orders something like that would attract. DEV, frankly speaking I am holding NOBL, but when I knew the richest list, somehow I am surprised by the big holders (few are NOBL reserve) and feel unsafe, what if they dump the coins? A great amount are also probably still unlisted exchange adresses. Yes, there are a few big holders, but they already stated that they are in this for the long run. (some bought at 200+ and don't want to take a 10x loss and beleive in noblecoin) Those People who bought NOBL and are at the top are just fine; had "bad" impression on NOBL reverses, no body can make people to believe they won't dump.
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onebutton
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May 26, 2014, 03:00:56 PM |
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Basically semi-random, as transparent and possible and controlled has to be best, most people here are out to abuse the system, not support it.
yes We need to be more transparent. Want to see our feelings
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GBattaglia
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May 26, 2014, 03:13:01 PM |
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They could always take note from SilkCoin and implement a new wallet. When NobleCoin was first releasing I suggested the possibility of using a new GUI like implemented by MegaCoin I believe.
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kresu
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May 26, 2014, 03:45:19 PM |
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I was told there is a ledger about the premine, this kind of information should be in a place easy to identify, ANN thread at least. I am not saying something bad about NOBL, but most likely what I can see is what other people can find too. If you tell me the price is very low right now, and can go 300 sat some day, surely I will invest some BTC into it, but when I know there is a richest list and premine holders, just fee safe to invest more.
Dev, why don't you giveaway a portion of coin into the community, and spread the goodness of NOBL too. NOBL also need some stuffs, one example is a nice official block explorer; notice BTC benefits a lot from blockchain.info. NOBL should do that too.
You can find this info in the first post, on the first screen: NobleCoin Marketplace | NOBLE Movement | Interview With the Devs | NobleCoin & The Water Project Non-Anonymous Founders | Development Roadmap | Public Ledger & Expenses( https://www.noblemovement.com/public-ledger/)
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james6546
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May 26, 2014, 03:58:05 PM |
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EDIT: why not offer 30% discount at the beginning? again you guys want everyone else to buy NOBL up! We can't handle straight off the bat a huge flood of orders something like that would attract. DEV, frankly speaking I am holding NOBL, but when I knew the richest list, somehow I am surprised by the big holders (few are NOBL reserve) and feel unsafe, what if they dump the coins? I see a problem in it, too. There are some guys holding huge amounts. and thats not good imo. I was told there is a ledger about the premine, this kind of information should be in a place easy to identify, ANN thread at least. I am not saying something bad about NOBL, but most likely what I can see is what other people can find too. If you tell me the price is very low right now, and can go 300 sat some day, surely I will invest some BTC into it, but when I know there is a richest list and premine holders, just fee safe to invest more. Dev, why don't you giveaway a portion of coin into the community, and spread the goodness of NOBL too. NOBL also need some stuffs, one example is a nice official block explorer; notice BTC benefits a lot from blockchain.info. NOBL should do that too. There have been lots of giveaways, I personally have had around 10s of thousands of Noble. I trust Rofo 100% not to sell the premine. If you realise the amount off effort that he has put into this coin, there is no way that he would cash out yet. There are so many great things to come. I hope the price is still low tomorrow, I get paid then
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May 26, 2014, 03:58:28 PM Last edit: May 26, 2014, 04:50:30 PM by poornamelessme |
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For better or for worse we wouldn't keep anything closed source, it goes against the whole spirit of crypto (besides the fact open-source got us here in the first place) but even more importantly from a realist perspective any closed-source service or wallet dealing with money of any amount simply would not be trusted.
One way around that, sort of, which was discussed in the Drk coin thread early on, is to have a trusted 3rd party audit the code. Finding a trusted 3rd party, and if that would be good enough, is a question though. For systems that are truly unique, a coin does sort of need to be closed source, at least to start with, or P&D clones will just kill whatever is unique about the coin. And probably do a poor job of implementing the 'unique system' to begin with. But I agree about the forking thing. You can't hardfork Noble repeatedly, trying to catch the latest fad. The partner coin idea could potentially work. One problem is the fact that people may not really care about any features really. They say they do, but in reality all they could be doing is jumping from one pump and dump to the next, using new features as a context for the pump. It's the same reason why pumps quite often occur on the flimsiest of coin news -- listed in coin market cap, listed on new exchange, listed in some obscure article that nobody will read anyway, nation coin does airdrop, etc. It's just a reason for a pump, so people may not care so much about whatever feature is in fad right now ... it's just a way to make money. Exceptions would be things that are truly unique and serve a purpose, perhaps anonymity, true anonymity, coins like Ethereum or MadeSafe (in theory), that sort of thing. One thing that could help Noble, and for all I know has been implemented and I missed it, is to incorporate the marketplace into the wallet, as well as have it set up for both android and ios. If you have discounts or marketplace news, it can then appear as a popup in the wallet itself. It's one way to get the marketplace more attention and be a bit more unique than other coins.
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NorrisK
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May 26, 2014, 04:25:30 PM |
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marketplace in wallet and news in wallet: I like.
if its not possible with current people, please outsource it!
this will make the wallet a lot more usefull and user friendly. a mobile version of this would be even more epic!
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kresu
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May 26, 2014, 05:10:11 PM |
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A have to say THANK YOU once again, because someone just sent enormous donation, almost doubling our balance, so I had to publish an update on simplynoble.net I think it's time to reveal the collected amount to the originators, because it is unlikely that the price go much lower from here. I will let them know on FB about the update!
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Anonz
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May 26, 2014, 05:33:34 PM |
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PHCoin is asking kraken that did the audit report here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=528432Because Audits are a good thing, especially with any fund/premine/ipo... I think this is highly needed with escrow and other transparencies in place. For better or for worse we wouldn't keep anything closed source, it goes against the whole spirit of crypto (besides the fact open-source got us here in the first place) but even more importantly from a realist perspective any closed-source service or wallet dealing with money of any amount simply would not be trusted.
One way around that, sort of, which was discussed in the Drk coin thread early on, is to have a trusted 3rd party audit the code. Finding a trusted 3rd party, and if that would be good enough, is a question though. For systems that are truly unique, a coin does sort of need to be closed source, at least to start with, or P&D clones will just kill whatever is unique about the coin. And probably do a poor job of implementing the 'unique system' to begin with. But I agree about the forking thing. You can't hardfork Noble repeatedly, trying to catch the latest fad. The partner coin idea could potentially work. One problem is the fact that people may not really care about any features really. They say they do, but in reality all they could be doing is jumping from one pump and dump to the next, using new features as a context for the pump. It's the same reason why pumps quite often occur on the flimsiest of coin news -- listed in coin market cap, listed on new exchange, listed in some obscure article that nobody will read anyway, nation coin does airdrop, etc. It's just a reason for a pump, so people may not care so much about whatever feature is in fad right now ... it's just a way to make money. Exceptions would be things that are truly unique and serve a purpose, perhaps anonymity, true anonymity, coins like Ethereum or MadeSafe (in theory), that sort of thing. One thing that could help Noble, and for all I know has been implemented and I missed it, is to incorporate the marketplace into the wallet, as well as have it set up for both android and ios. If you have discounts or marketplace news, it can then appear as a popup in the wallet itself. It's one way to get the marketplace more attention and be a bit more unique than other coins.
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Zebedee23
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May 26, 2014, 05:48:14 PM Last edit: May 26, 2014, 06:01:18 PM by Zebedee23 |
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EDIT: why not offer 30% discount at the beginning? again you guys want everyone else to buy NOBL up! We can't handle straight off the bat a huge flood of orders something like that would attract. DEV, frankly speaking I am holding NOBL, but when I knew the richest list, somehow I am surprised by the big holders (few are NOBL reserve) and feel unsafe, what if they dump the coins? This is the same with any good coin with potential. Really it should be a good sign that people are prepared to put large amounts into NOBL. Whales who hold the largest amounts are not stupid and are not just going to dump it all just cause its gone down a bit!!! In it for the Long term!!!!!!!!
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Git_2058
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May 26, 2014, 06:50:47 PM |
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EDIT: why not offer 30% discount at the beginning? again you guys want everyone else to buy NOBL up! We can't handle straight off the bat a huge flood of orders something like that would attract. DEV, frankly speaking I am holding NOBL, but when I knew the richest list, somehow I am surprised by the big holders (few are NOBL reserve) and feel unsafe, what if they dump the coins? This is the same with any good coin with potential. Really it should be a good sign that people are prepared to put large amounts into NOBL. Whales who hold the largest amounts are not stupid and are not just going to dump it all just cause its gone down a bit!!! In it for the Long term!!!!!!!! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=402667.msg6950366#msg6950366What we are going to do with these? Reserve Addresses: 1: 9hwDHcoCUvKozQFfGxmcjBEk7Gzag3ueDx 25,000,000 NOBL 2: 9amycGhuemdnmEwhUsQweQxoXo2tDbqXEH 30,000,000 NOBL 3: 9esNKPNcqqZJ5eARrrH9zDi7dkWk2GLHwL 30,000,000 NOBL 4: 9a6jaT2N6ZQGrPY7Ke1gcaWRipY7Va1c5v 20,000,000 NOBL
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
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May 26, 2014, 07:39:31 PM |
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Been busy, Looks like alot in the works! My buys got filled at 33 so I hold about 600k now. Didn't expect to see the 20's just yet! Well I'm sure we'll be back to the 50's at least within a month. One thing is for certain, Speculators can't hold for 3 days let alone a month! I think they all have ADD. Just bought New Taillights for my 740IL with my amazon gift cards today.
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“Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.”
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