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April 25, 2014, 07:49:37 PM
Last edit: April 25, 2014, 08:03:04 PM by glendall
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is it good to buy at thoses prices? 30K seems a bit high  to me even tought bids are still huge

Wow!  Shocked  guess so !

Couldn't believe it, woke up and checked out HBN on Cryptsy which I do daily, and, wow, selling for .0005 !  Did not see that coming.

The whole 'hindsight is 20-20' thing kicked in a moment later when I wish I bought a whole bunch more in the low teens, after it dipped down from the low 20's for a while, but hey, when trading you can't beat yourself up much against shots not made or made.

Anyways, I'm in the same position as a lot of people here it seems -- such is the beauty and attraction of PoS coins -- do you you sell when it is so high, or do you want to hold on even tighter now that your interest generating coins are worth all that much more?

I think I'm going to just generate stake coins for 6 months (which was my plan when I bought them originally) and then I'm going to sell the generated coins after that time is up. But I think the future looks bright for Hobonickels just alone on the strength of their wallet, which looks and functions better than any PoS coin wallet I know of.  I would not be shocked if we go back down to the '20s anytimes soon but I really highly doubt that HBN will ever fall below the point I bought into it (mostly around .00017-20).

Thanks Tokyo for starting your journal. HBN was a diamond in the rough and you got the coin some well-deserved attention. You helped grow your own portfolio's value while helping others do the same thing, on the up-and-up, and that's a great move in my books.

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April 25, 2014, 09:24:02 PM
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big pump n dump today. missed it totally tho Sad(

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April 25, 2014, 09:31:01 PM
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Despite the pumps and dumps, I've never seen a coin with so many strong hands. Even such volatility doesn't seem to faze most HBN enthusiasts——more long-term steady confidence with this coin, which quickly settles the pumpers. This bodes well for the price long-term.
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April 25, 2014, 09:44:33 PM
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big pump n dump today. missed it totally tho Sad(

Its actually because cryptsy took the HBN daemon offline to rescan the block chain. This made it so transfers into cryptsy didn't work.  Demand for coins was allowed to run wild without and supply able to come in. Once the daemon came back online all of the transfers came through at once and people dumped their coins. So not really a pump and dump, just technicalities with cryptsy. Wish they would announce it sooner.

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April 25, 2014, 09:46:17 PM
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big pump n dump today. missed it totally tho Sad(

my HBN journal is all about steady, sustainable profits. Plenty of people won and lost during that pump but remember this, quick buck artist come and go, but its the steady players who make money in any market condition.

If pump and dumps isnt a part of your trading style, then ignore them completely.
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April 25, 2014, 09:50:06 PM
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big pump n dump today. missed it totally tho Sad(

Its actually because cryptsy took the HBN daemon offline to rescan the block chain. This made it so transfers into cryptsy didn't work.  Demand for coins was allowed to run wild without and supply able to come in. Once the daemon came back online all of the transfers came through at once and people dumped their coins. So not really a pump and dump, just technicalities with cryptsy. Wish they would announce it sooner.

Thanks for that info Presstab. It seems that project pump either picked the best or the worst time to pump HBN. Im pretty sure people lost plenty of coin-age trying to chase the dump. Which means that the professional PoS miners will have more weight against the network and mint more PoS blocks sooner.

I guess this pump just worked out to my advantage and I haven't sold a single HBN.
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April 25, 2014, 09:50:35 PM
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Sound advice. I was in it to buy some HBN when it came down.
Unfortunately it did not dump to better buying levels but now I have a few more to stake in the next 10 days.

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April 26, 2014, 04:42:27 AM
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Pretty exciting day  Wink

Loved that action!  Didn't sell a µHBN today though, I'm still waiting to reach my goal so the stake can be that much more interesting... loved that idea Tokyo about grabbing a cold one while my 3 years old laptop's CPU churns away those numbers!

Stake away my friends... stake away and let them grow!  It will pay soon enough Smiley

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April 26, 2014, 09:40:18 AM
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Lets get HBN on Mintpal!

I just voted with 0.14 BTC.

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April 26, 2014, 10:48:29 AM
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When I hover my mouse over the little green arrow on the 1.4 client it tells me

Staking..
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you have 50% chance of producing a stake in xx hours

Is it just me or does anyone else get this stuck in their head ?

http://youtu.be/RWTHxt1XTfs

Maybe tomorrow I'll wanna place a sell
until tomorrow I'll just keep staking coin.


yeah I have probably just lost the plot .......
maybe at these prices I'm just in a hysterically good mood
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April 26, 2014, 02:40:56 PM
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When I hover my mouse over the little green arrow on the 1.4 client it tells me

Staking..
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you have 50% chance of producing a stake in xx hours

Is it just me or does anyone else get this stuck in their head ?

http://youtu.be/RWTHxt1XTfs

Maybe tomorrow I'll wanna place a sell
until tomorrow I'll just keep staking coin.


yeah I have probably just lost the plot .......
maybe at these prices I'm just in a hysterically good mood

haha that's funny  Grin

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April 27, 2014, 12:14:12 PM
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big pump n dump today. missed it totally tho Sad(

my HBN journal is all about steady, sustainable profits. Plenty of people won and lost during that pump but remember this, quick buck artist come and go, but its the steady players who make money in any market condition.

If pump and dumps isnt a part of your trading style, then ignore them completely.


2% every ten days?  Grin Sustainable?  Grin   


You must be joking Smiley

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April 27, 2014, 02:19:15 PM
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^^ he obviously read and understood all the info ........

*edit to insert more obvious hostile sarcasm Smiley
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April 27, 2014, 03:21:49 PM
Last edit: April 27, 2014, 05:18:03 PM by presstab
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big pump n dump today. missed it totally tho Sad(

my HBN journal is all about steady, sustainable profits. Plenty of people won and lost during that pump but remember this, quick buck artist come and go, but its the steady players who make money in any market condition.

If pump and dumps isnt a part of your trading style, then ignore them completely.


2% every ten days?  Grin Sustainable?  Grin  


You must be joking Smiley

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It sounds aggressive but when you do the numbers you will see that the monetary expansion is only a few 100 k coins ahead of the PoW target because often very small PoS blocks will crowd out the PoW blocks.

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April 28, 2014, 03:35:27 AM
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big pump n dump today. missed it totally tho Sad(

my HBN journal is all about steady, sustainable profits. Plenty of people won and lost during that pump but remember this, quick buck artist come and go, but its the steady players who make money in any market condition.

If pump and dumps isnt a part of your trading style, then ignore them completely.


2% every ten days?  Grin Sustainable?  Grin  


You must be joking Smiley

Pump and dump is your scamming style and you are ... ?   (Insert correct word instead of ...)



It sounds aggressive but when you do the numbers you will see that the monetary expansion is only a few 100 k coins ahead of the PoW target because often very small PoS blocks will crowd out the PoW blocks.

Good points.

Also as the staking difficulty goes up, the interest declines. I guess once there are 8 million coins out there, maybe 1 year from now, the interest rate will be in the 90 percentage.

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April 28, 2014, 10:42:11 PM
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This is one of my favorite posts on BitcoinTalk. I follow it since you opened it but I didn't invest on HBN from the begining because I didn't know the dev, the coin history... I entered a month ago aprox when it was at 10000. I can't be more happy of the decision and I'm not thinking of selling at all. I feel really safe with Tranz as dev and I'm convinced this coin has so much further to go. Thank you for opening this journal and helping others invest in real/valuable coins!
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April 29, 2014, 04:27:44 AM
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Hey guys,

I was hoping you could help me with an idea I have. I have been following new scrypt asics for a while now, nearly buying a miner a few times. Now I was wondering(attempting to justify) buying a new miner and thought what if I divested 50% of HBN position to buy a miner and then pointed it at the multi pool to be paid out in HBN daily.

My question is wouldn't this increase the value of my other 50% HBN investment because the muli-pool would be buying HBN in the market to pay me? So I would not only be making a ROI through HBN mined but also increasing the price of my remaining position?

Also if we all agreed to buy miners together for the multi pool wouldn't this substantially increase the value of HBN as well?

Note: this is assuming I buy the latest best value ASIC as soon as it is released. Ofcourse I am also not including % lost due to 2% stake and increases in mining difficulty as well.
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April 29, 2014, 05:00:19 AM
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Whitecoin technical issues creating volatility for an entry point.  When the new devs take over, I don't think it's possible for the coin to never see 1000 again.  Seems like guaranteed money.  1000 is just the absolute lowest, low ball figure.  2000-4000+ is pretty easily achievable.

I am prepared to do battle on the orderbook if they want to battle me.


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April 29, 2014, 05:43:33 AM
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Hey guys,

I was hoping you could help me with an idea I have. I have been following new scrypt asics for a while now, nearly buying a miner a few times. Now I was wondering(attempting to justify) buying a new miner and thought what if I divested 50% of HBN position to buy a miner and then pointed it at the multi pool to be paid out in HBN daily.

My question is wouldn't this increase the value of my other 50% HBN investment because the muli-pool would be buying HBN in the market to pay me? So I would not only be making a ROI through HBN mined but also increasing the price of my remaining position?

Also if we all agreed to buy miners together for the multi pool wouldn't this substantially increase the value of HBN as well?

Note: this is assuming I buy the latest best value ASIC as soon as it is released. Ofcourse I am also not including % lost due to 2% stake and increases in mining difficulty as well.

Miners depreciate through time, so far HBN has appreciated with time Smiley

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Hey guys,

I was hoping you could help me with an idea I have. I have been following new scrypt asics for a while now, nearly buying a miner a few times. Now I was wondering(attempting to justify) buying a new miner and thought what if I divested 50% of HBN position to buy a miner and then pointed it at the multi pool to be paid out in HBN daily.

My question is wouldn't this increase the value of my other 50% HBN investment because the muli-pool would be buying HBN in the market to pay me? So I would not only be making a ROI through HBN mined but also increasing the price of my remaining position?

Also if we all agreed to buy miners together for the multi pool wouldn't this substantially increase the value of HBN as well?

Note: this is assuming I buy the latest best value ASIC as soon as it is released. Ofcourse I am also not including % lost due to 2% stake and increases in mining difficulty as well.

That would be an interesting idea but a few issue must be taken into consideration.

Miners depreciate over time
ASIC miners wont be shipped before 2-3 months waiting time
Difficulties will likely rise rendering the miners less competitive and less profitable

What is unknown is how fast is the difficulty will rise in SCRYPT mining.

I don't think I would personally continue the mining race.  The window of ROI is rather small and you have to be quick to turn over your asset.

That being said, if you don't own any mining rigs you could have a few ASICS since mining is not only important to secure the block chain, it's also fun and can give you a way to enter any given market without investing BTC you previously have.

If you already own a rig, I would point it to hashco.ws and get paid in HBN right away.

The sell side of HBN has low volume, so we don't need that much people to point their rigs to the multipool to see a nice appreciation of the value of HBN.

Your reasoning about the multipool and appreciation of the other half of your investment by rising the price is correct.  What is hard to evaluate is, will HBN rise faster than the ASIC depreciate (and will your ASIC be able to buy you enough HBN at the multipool).  If you believe so, might be worth a shot, if you fear it's not, better hold to your current HBN position.  You also have to consider delivery time of your ASIC... if it takes 3 months to ship, where will HBN price be in 3 months? (if price goes up, it's good for your other half, but you will be buying less from the market with your ASIC miner, not even considering the negative impact of difficulty rising)

3 months ago, HBN was trading around 8k-10k sat, while I'm writing this it's at 53k sat.  Not only will you lose your stakes (2%) for that waiting period, but you might lose a nice appreciation too!

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