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Author Topic: ★★DigiByte|极特币★★[DGB]✔ Core v6.16.5.1 - DigiShield, DigiSpeed, Segwit  (Read 3056429 times)
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April 10, 2017, 03:18:13 PM
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I say that because,the last two times I bought games on steam, it took 34 and 18 hours for Bitcoin to confirm with normal fee.

woah... was it transaction backlog or do Steam also require an inordinate number of confirmations?  Still, even with normal block times they would probably need at least an hour to confirm. DigiByte would get it done within the time it takes to make a coffee & come back to the PC, probably less.
my fee was just not high enough I wasn't included.
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April 10, 2017, 05:13:51 PM
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. . . you will currently only lose the deterministic wallet functions by importing a new wallet into the old.

Could you elaborate on that please?

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April 10, 2017, 05:19:30 PM
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I say that because,the last two times I bought games on steam, it took 34 and 18 hours for Bitcoin to confirm with normal fee.

woah... was it transaction backlog or do Steam also require an inordinate number of confirmations?  Still, even with normal block times they would probably need at least an hour to confirm. DigiByte would get it done within the time it takes to make a coffee & come back to the PC, probably less.
my fee was just not high enough I wasn't included.

Yes, it's a serious issue (that could eventually be crippling) that is well documented.

http://www.google.es/search?q=bitcoin+waiting+for+confirmation&oq=bitcoin+waiting+for+confirmation&gs_l=mobile-heirloom-serp.12...0.0.1.1088.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c..34.mobile-heirloom-serp..0.15.2599.nkSmKnoZmj4#spf=1

http://www.google.es/search?q=bitcoin+transaction+queue&oq=bitcoin+transaction+queue&gs_l=mobile-heirloom-serp.12...0.0.1.1645.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c..34.mobile-heirloom-serp..0.16.2203.Oxb5nRiHcEs#spf=1

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April 10, 2017, 05:21:44 PM
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pump is over. thanks for playing again.
I don't think so, it's just corrections because of BTC rise (check other alts).
+ coming segwit activation has positive influence on market Wink

and if devs fix those silly small qt deficiencies it will definitely go up much higher lol.
everything should look perfectly right, like new grs, ltc etc ...

many thanks for the 6.14.2




LTC and DGB will see positive gains because of segwit and being on Poloniex , the exchange with the most traded bitcoin. Other coin like grs not on Poloniex will never get anywhere in value.

I was told by insiders with more btc then most of you can dream of that dgb will be going over 100 soon.

Price is the only thing it will help. Arguably, price is all that matters. Segwit's one technical merit of TX malleability will not outweigh the burden of the rest of the technical debt and 30,000+ lines of bullshit code it brings along. Additionally, the fix will be for segwit tx's only, and you can say goodbye to normal tx's when segwit is here.

DGB was once my favorite for its scaling innovations, speed, and lack of politics. Can't wait to dump and be done with this nonsense. Thanks for the heads up. I think it will hit 200+ this time. We will see. Keep me updated.

I know the Gulden lead developer left out segwit on purpose(after the codebase update) as he had some reservations about it, instead they spent the time on revamping the wallet and adding new innovative features. I am sure digibyte has a plan and I am still heavily invested but if bitcoin decide not to go with Segwit and dgb moves onto Segwit , can it be rolled back and only have normal tx's ?
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April 10, 2017, 05:35:25 PM
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. . . you will currently only lose the deterministic wallet functions by importing a new wallet into the old.

Could you elaborate on that please?

https://bitcoin.org/en/glossary/hd-protocol
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April 10, 2017, 05:46:15 PM
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pump is over. thanks for playing again.
I don't think so, it's just corrections because of BTC rise (check other alts).
+ coming segwit activation has positive influence on market Wink

and if devs fix those silly small qt deficiencies it will definitely go up much higher lol.
everything should look perfectly right, like new grs, ltc etc ...

many thanks for the 6.14.2




LTC and DGB will see positive gains because of segwit and being on Poloniex , the exchange with the most traded bitcoin. Other coin like grs not on Poloniex will never get anywhere in value.

I was told by insiders with more btc then most of you can dream of that dgb will be going over 100 soon.

Price is the only thing it will help. Arguably, price is all that matters. Segwit's one technical merit of TX malleability will not outweigh the burden of the rest of the technical debt and 30,000+ lines of bullshit code it brings along. Additionally, the fix will be for segwit tx's only, and you can say goodbye to normal tx's when segwit is here.

DGB was once my favorite for its scaling innovations, speed, and lack of politics. Can't wait to dump and be done with this nonsense. Thanks for the heads up. I think it will hit 200+ this time. We will see. Keep me updated.

I know the Gulden lead developer left out segwit on purpose(after the codebase update) as he had some reservations about it, instead they spent the time on revamping the wallet and adding new innovative features. I am sure digibyte has a plan and I am still heavily invested but if bitcoin decide not to go with Segwit and dgb moves onto Segwit , can it be rolled back and only have normal tx's ?

Absolutely not.

From http://www.deadalnix.me/2016/10/17/segwit-is-not-great/ (this is a good read btw)

"Transaction malleability

The primary reason SegWit was created is to solve transaction malleability. Currently, it is possible to modify a transaction in such a way that its id changes, but the transaction remains valid. This is an issue for various reasons that are fairly technical, but it is indeed worth fixing.

To do so, SegWit effectively creates a new transaction format which doesn’t suffer from the problem. However, the constraint is that the new format must fit in the old one. For this reason, anyone can spend transaction are created, and all transaction have an empty signature where none is needed. Overall, this waste space and makes the transaction format bigger and more complex than it needs to be."

Another good read http://www.wallstreettechnologist.com/2016/12/03/core-segwit-you-need-to-read-this/ (live site is currently down) https://archive.fo/ZnPmF

So if DGB decide to move away from segwit, it's game over. I'm sure there will be exploits either way. Good luck.

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April 10, 2017, 06:51:43 PM
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. . . you will currently only lose the deterministic wallet functions by importing a new wallet into the old.

Could you elaborate on that please?

https://bitcoin.org/en/glossary/hd-protocol

What do you mean by importing a new wallet into the old?

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April 10, 2017, 07:20:54 PM
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This might help those of us "non-experts" clear up some technical questions . . . or at least get started down that road towards objective, non-biased information with which to make informed decisions. Let me know if it helps and what else you have/find. TIA

https://achow101.com/2016/04/Segwit-FUD-Clearup

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April 10, 2017, 10:01:04 PM
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. . . you will currently only lose the deterministic wallet functions by importing a new wallet into the old.

Could you elaborate on that please?

https://bitcoin.org/en/glossary/hd-protocol

What do you mean by importing a new wallet into the old?

import a new core 6.14.2 wallet.dat into the old 4.0.3 core wallet. 
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April 10, 2017, 10:16:33 PM
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. . . you will currently only lose the deterministic wallet functions by importing a new wallet into the old.

Could you elaborate on that please?

https://bitcoin.org/en/glossary/hd-protocol

What do you mean by importing a new wallet into the old?

import a new core 6.14.2 wallet.dat into the old 4.0.3 core wallet. 

6.14.2 is no longer deterministic?

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April 10, 2017, 10:18:49 PM
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. . . you will currently only lose the deterministic wallet functions by importing a new wallet into the old.

Could you elaborate on that please?

https://bitcoin.org/en/glossary/hd-protocol

What do you mean by importing a new wallet into the old?

import a new core 6.14.2 wallet.dat into the old 4.0.3 core wallet.  

6.14.2 is no longer deterministic?
no 6.14.2 wallet is deterministic but you could take the walet.dat file and import it into the old wallet and that wouldn't be.

if you were to import the old 4.0.3 wallet.dat into the new wallet, HD would be disabled. 
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April 10, 2017, 10:33:38 PM
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This might help those of us "non-experts" clear up some technical questions . . . or at least get started down that road towards objective, non-biased information with which to make informed decisions. Let me know if it helps and what else you have/find. TIA

https://achow101.com/2016/04/Segwit-FUD-Clearup

i think that's helpful. thx.
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April 11, 2017, 12:29:23 AM
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This might help those of us "non-experts" clear up some technical questions . . . or at least get started down that road towards objective, non-biased information with which to make informed decisions. Let me know if it helps and what else you have/find. TIA

https://achow101.com/2016/04/Segwit-FUD-Clearup


https://archive.fo/ZnPmF

This source is better because instead of cherry-picking myths and debunking them as your link does, this one plain and simply lists the pros and cons.
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April 11, 2017, 02:00:08 AM
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Could some post active nodes? Im only getting a single connection
try these.

46.4.66.6
23.99.90.8
74.137.10.38
176.9.61.40
121.99.75.52
52.41.9.64
163.172.61.71
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April 11, 2017, 02:05:42 AM
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This might help those of us "non-experts" clear up some technical questions . . . or at least get started down that road towards objective, non-biased information with which to make informed decisions. Let me know if it helps and what else you have/find. TIA

https://achow101.com/2016/04/Segwit-FUD-Clearup


https://archive.fo/ZnPmF

This source is better because instead of cherry-picking myths and debunking them as your link does, this one plain and simply lists the pros and cons.

who is this article by? I see scaremongering with little or even no evidence to back any of it up. I don't see how it is a better or more correct source of information, like you say it is. I was never convinced that your concerns were totally unfounded but this cannot be your foundation.
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April 11, 2017, 05:16:53 AM
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325 mhs good for an amd rx 480

Shift Coin, Phantom/IPFS the new Web 3.0
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April 11, 2017, 05:43:56 AM
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This might help those of us "non-experts" clear up some technical questions . . . or at least get started down that road towards objective, non-biased information with which to make informed decisions. Let me know if it helps and what else you have/find. TIA

https://achow101.com/2016/04/Segwit-FUD-Clearup


https://archive.fo/ZnPmF

This source is better because instead of cherry-picking myths and debunking them as your link does, this one plain and simply lists the pros and cons.

who is this article by? I see scaremongering with little or even no evidence to back any of it up. I don't see how it is a better or more correct source of information, like you say it is. I was never convinced that your concerns were totally unfounded but this cannot be your foundation.

Scaremongering...are you kidding me...Just do a god damned google search. http://www.deadalnix.me/2016/10/17/segwit-is-not-great/

You are convinced segwit is great and could do no wrong. For that, you will never see the potential downfalls without bias.

I'm fucking done here.
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April 11, 2017, 07:16:32 AM
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A lot of FUD going on here. It all seems a bit unsubstantiated, so I just see it as a way to keep this thread current. I do always wonder why people do this. Did you lose money in the past? Are you betting on some other coin and try to divert investment money from this coin? Or are you, and this scenario seems unlikely Cheesy, a savior that wants to save all the poor investors here?

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April 11, 2017, 09:01:47 AM
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Is there any site with a kind of pie chart showing the distribution of the pools hashrates?
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April 11, 2017, 09:24:12 AM
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Is there any site with a kind of pie chart showing the distribution of the pools hashrates?

Not a pie chart, but a table  https://www.miners-pool.eu/mining-breakdown/DGB
I can report only known pool addresses (pool owners can give me their address).
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