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[BrainShutdown]

Anyone has an idea of how to get Volume data for DRK for the last 10 to 15 days, a way to get daily volumes for a period of time would be great. Need it for official DASH business. If any of our traders can help I would really appreciate it.

Found it in my fav
http://cryptocoinstats.com/coinsummarydetail.php?ac=DRK

That's great, thanks!

[BrainShutdown]

A quick glance at Cryptsy market depth this morning after the dump  https://i.imgur.com/9yBHpn2.png

Wow 

[pookielax31]

WOW 4hr RSI just pulled back up to the support line for one more run out of nowhere  

[kointrend]

Big wall at cryptsy! 

now on 0215829

Someone having fun? Or scared yet? Well I hope he'll have to buy higher.

[s1gs3gv]

A quick glance at Cryptsy market depth this morning after the dump  https://i.imgur.com/9yBHpn2.png

Wow 

Cryptsy is reporting nearly 2500 BTC in vol over the last 24 hours … https://i.imgur.com/jVQsM7X.png

[TanteStefana2]

......
Tante...sorry I haven't replied to your mails.  I've got laryngitis and my day job has been taking all of my energy.

Aw, poor thing, no worries

[splawik21]

WOW 4hr RSI just pulled back up to the support line for one more run out of nowhere  

+ we are almost half of LTC marketcap !

[GhostPlayer]

WOW 4hr RSI just pulled back up to the support line for one more run out of nowhere  

+ we are almost half of LTC marketcap !

 when I woke up this morning, we were +50% 

 Then Europe woke up and reset dumping bots... I can almost bet most of those guys have no clue about the rebrand. My, are they in for a surprise later on...

[tungfa]

 

[stonehedge]

set ur buys around .0160 ...this is nice healthy correction  

In this second wave we don't have vertoe's and stonehedge's volumes to dump - so I don't expect we will see such a deeps.

I bet Directbet wished they had waited a week

sell your bmw and come back. Wait a week and get a new one.

You have no idea the lengths I am going to find the business case to buy back in.  I've got my accountant on it...discussing it with Mrs Hedge...

Its the price and limited supply thats getting me.  In the absence of a time machine I'd love to find somebody willing to give me a second chance with a gratuity discount depending on the volume I buy.  A man can dream.

Anyway, lottery night in the UK so if the market gets pumped by £4m overnight you know who won it.

[GhostPlayer]

What's the fuck GhostPlayer is silly pig

 Oink oink !! 

 

 

[EfterlysT]

So,these 7 paintings are sold, and becoming memorabilia.
No more DARK ,we are steppin into DACH.

Thanks all buyers,you have a nice items from the first stage of development.

to Sweden


to USA


? i cant remember


to Belgium


to USA


to USA


to Belgium
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I bought the one at the top, really nice piece

[majamina]

set ur buys around .0160 ...this is nice healthy correction  

In this second wave we don't have vertoe's and stonehedge's volumes to dump - so I don't expect we will see such a deeps.

I bet Directbet wished they had waited a week

sell your bmw and come back. Wait a week and get a new one.

You have no idea the lengths I am going to find the business case to buy back in.  I've got my accountant on it...discussing it with Mrs Hedge...

Its the price and limited supply thats getting me.  In the absence of a time machine I'd love to find somebody willing to give me a second chance with a gratuity discount depending on the volume I buy.  A man can dream.

Anyway, lottery night in the UK so if the market gets pumped by £4m overnight you know who won it.

presumably Mrs Hedge will control the private keys this time round? 

[rickraw]

Wild trading day, glad I learned to HODL.

[ahoenk]

next direction  is $10 quote my words....

[stonehedge]

set ur buys around .0160 ...this is nice healthy correction  

In this second wave we don't have vertoe's and stonehedge's volumes to dump - so I don't expect we will see such a deeps.

I bet Directbet wished they had waited a week

sell your bmw and come back. Wait a week and get a new one.

You have no idea the lengths I am going to find the business case to buy back in.  I've got my accountant on it...discussing it with Mrs Hedge...

Its the price and limited supply thats getting me.  In the absence of a time machine I'd love to find somebody willing to give me a second chance with a gratuity discount depending on the volume I buy.  A man can dream.

Anyway, lottery night in the UK so if the market gets pumped by £4m overnight you know who won it.

presumably Mrs Hedge will control the private keys this time round? 

Meh, thats the thing that scares the shit out of me.   By all means I'd be happy for Mrs Hedge to control the private keys but don't for a second believe that my gambling losses were a result of a long term gambling addiction.  It is really easy to lose control in the heat of the moment.  It is also a short hop from short term periodic controlled gambling to insane mistakes.

[oaxaca]

Well, here's the end of my little story.  I asked the monero shill for a little clarification:

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It wasnt a name calling contest. It was a discussion of the tech.

really?  Compare this statement:
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The problem that i see with dark is not necessarily whether it works or not. This criticism applies even if it does work. My big problem, and the reason I didn't buy it a long time ago even though I was shopping for anonymity focused projects, is that its just so god damn inelegant. Its like instead of approaching the problem from a fresh perspective and inventing something novel and clever, the devs decided to take the whack a mole approach. You whack the first problem over the head with a blunt instrument, this creates more problems, and you whack those over the head with another bunt instrument, thus creating more problems. The way i picture it in my head, and we see this in cartoons sometimes, someone is trying to stop a hose from spraying so they stick their thumb in the hole, the pressure builds up and water sprays out of another hole somewhere, and they stick their toe in that hole, then water erupts from somewhere else and they stick their other thumb in that hole. This is all I could picture in my head while hearing a description of dark for the first time.

Its just so god damned ugly. Maybe it works, but even if it does it's a vulgar solution to the problem, where as ring signatures and unlikable deterministic addresses is so beautiful and elegant and simple. Reading the white paper for the first time I was just struck with the beauty and elegance of the approach.

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with this statement
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Coins need to be mixed so you guys implement coinjoin at the protocol level. But then you cant just have every random user hosting coinjoin sessions because then you would open an attack vector for troll coinjoin hosts so you make master nodes. But then you cant just have anyone joining in the coinjoin because you could dos by requesting transactions but not signing so you implement the idea of collateral to be part of the session. But then now you have no incentive for the masternodes to form so you give them part of the collateral. It wouldnt be mixed enough if you did this at the transaction level so you have the blockchain tumbling peoples coins all the time. This is ridiculously expensive so you greatly subsidize the darksend transactions inorder to hide the huge cost of anonymity in your system. Now you have to worry about people trying to send transactions to each other through darksend so you have to try to come up with some clever mechanism to avoid this problem.

Its just like I described in my post. Plugging up the first hole but then new ones appear so you try to plug those up. Its an analogy of course but, in my mind, its an apt one and there is certainly reasons behind it. it wasn't just senseless name calling.

see the difference?

BTW, your revised explanation is VERY inaccurate.

I am quite certain that it misses and misrepresents some of the details. But i think the general point that i was trying to make holds.

And yes i guess you do have a point. Perhaps i could have explained more in the post, but it wasn't intended to get into all of the details, and i didn't want to make it too long. People dont read posts that are too long. I was prepared to explain my reasoning as soon as someone from drk challenged it. And that way it would be broken into a few smaller posts which might actually be read. No one ever challenged it though, which is, again, part of the reason i came soliciting in your thread.

But again, i never acted like a troll in your thread. And the comment we are discussing was made in a place where it was appropriate. You guys should have MUCH thinker skins than you do. That doesn't really apply to you either. You seem pretty cool.

So I responded:

We've had to put up with a non-stop barrage of trolling from "you guys" in our thread.  Look for yourself.  Anything you can do to put a leash on some of your attack dogs would go a long way towards saving your trust rating.

EDIT



I can't be held responsible for the actions of others in regards to your trust rating, but if you apologize...

smooth (the fair and balanced intellect that he is) came back with this gem:

reminder: there is a button on the lower right that can be used to report off-topic posts.

Please use it when posts are actually off topic or otherwise violate forum rules (and only then)

Oh come on. You are kidding right? Report to moderators? Maybe if they are spamming uncontrollably. But how old are we? We are supposed to "taddle tale" on people to the "grown ups"?

I know this thread is a whole lot of fun right now but let's not forget it has a purpose of discussing Monero. If the post isn't discussing Monero (could be positive or negative doesn't matter) it doesn't belong here. That's not just spamming but it could include spamming.

EDIT: But if people will restrain themselves and not post off topic stuff such as a list of threads about another coin and talk of hypothetical abuse of the trust system obviously intended to intimidate, the moderators need not be bothered.

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Sure enough, my post was deleted.

[majamina]

set ur buys around .0160 ...this is nice healthy correction  

In this second wave we don't have vertoe's and stonehedge's volumes to dump - so I don't expect we will see such a deeps.

I bet Directbet wished they had waited a week

sell your bmw and come back. Wait a week and get a new one.

You have no idea the lengths I am going to find the business case to buy back in.  I've got my accountant on it...discussing it with Mrs Hedge...

Its the price and limited supply thats getting me.  In the absence of a time machine I'd love to find somebody willing to give me a second chance with a gratuity discount depending on the volume I buy.  A man can dream.

Anyway, lottery night in the UK so if the market gets pumped by £4m overnight you know who won it.

presumably Mrs Hedge will control the private keys this time round? 

Meh, thats the thing that scares the shit out of me.   By all means I'd be happy for Mrs Hedge to control the private keys but don't for a second believe that my gambling losses were a result of a long term gambling addiction.  It is really easy to lose control in the heat of the moment.  It is also a short hop from short term periodic controlled gambling to insane mistakes.

Yep, best to steer clear entirely in my experience.

Lesson learned hopefully

[stonehedge]

set ur buys around .0160 ...this is nice healthy correction  

In this second wave we don't have vertoe's and stonehedge's volumes to dump - so I don't expect we will see such a deeps.

I bet Directbet wished they had waited a week

sell your bmw and come back. Wait a week and get a new one.

You have no idea the lengths I am going to find the business case to buy back in.  I've got my accountant on it...discussing it with Mrs Hedge...

Its the price and limited supply thats getting me.  In the absence of a time machine I'd love to find somebody willing to give me a second chance with a gratuity discount depending on the volume I buy.  A man can dream.

Anyway, lottery night in the UK so if the market gets pumped by £4m overnight you know who won it.

presumably Mrs Hedge will control the private keys this time round?  

Meh, thats the thing that scares the shit out of me.   By all means I'd be happy for Mrs Hedge to control the private keys but don't for a second believe that my gambling losses were a result of a long term gambling addiction.  It is really easy to lose control in the heat of the moment.  It is also a short hop from short term periodic controlled gambling to insane mistakes.

Yep, best to steer clear entirely in my experience.

Lesson learned hopefully

There is no hopefully about it.  I've managed to throw away nearly $150,000, totally betray my incredible wife's trust and set back our plans to start a family by some time.  As Otoh and others have said, I had warnings and I missed them or ignored them.  Wishing for a second chance is not going to get me anywhere. All I can do is hope to pull off an audacious purchase in the next few hours (10% chance) or work my arse off 18 hours a day for a few years to try to make amends.  The latter is preferable to risking a single penny.

[BrainShutdown]

Well, here's the end of my little story.  I asked the monero shill for a little clarification:

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Sure enough, my post was deleted.

Don't waste your precious time with it.

Just leave them circle jerking each other over their XMR big bags of nothing