[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[blajde]

hi!
how much darkcoin i mine for day with 550kh/s? (pool mining)

well if you are comparing with normal scryptmining and have 550kh/s there.. you will have around 1.1Mh/s in darkcoin mining

[asdlolciterquit]

hi!
how much darkcoin i mine for day with 550kh/s? (pool mining)

well if you are comparing with normal scryptmining and have 550kh/s there.. you will have around 1.1Mh/s in darkcoin mining

ok...but this don't change the fact that i will gain only 2 darkcoin for 1 day on mining

[AlexGR]

I just sent 30 payments from 4 clients through DarkSend in a row without a single error and it went swimmingly    It's starting to look pretty solid! Anyone around today that wants to help me do some closed testing possibly before the big test tomorrow night?

* We need Ubuntu x64 and Windows users

I'm not in a position to debug code / network operation etc or understand the intricate details of "under-the-hood" operation of DarkSend etc. What I want you to think about (not necessarily answer me in private or in public) in order to make the coin as much future-proof as possible, is this:

Are there data from the network operation that can be thrown into a well-developed pattern recognition program by the NSA, in say, 5-10-20 years time, that can lead to clues that form patterns that in turn reveal the nature of the transaction?

It could be simple stuff like one wallet emptying by X amount and another being filled by the same X amount, stuff related to time (ie when the wallets empty and fill around the same time), IPs, etc. You have to think in reverse "how could I possibly spot who's sending what to whom by all the clues that I can have access to, rather than those I don't because they are encrypted".

Additionally, contemplate

-whether there is any way that a huge miner that processes the transactions can play the role of something like an NSA-controlled TOR exit node that could give advanced clues for pattern-recognition to understand the anonymous transaction. The same if someone created, say, virtual nodes (like 90% of the network) - would that have any effect on darksend operational mapping / understanding / reverse engineering of the process?

-that advanced AI pattern recognition can, in many cases, recognize patterns where humans cannot. You can "feed" the AI with a certain function and then it can start to understand it and detect it. For example you can do 50 darksends from one to another (controlled) so that the AI knows who is darksending to another and then, knowing the "familiar" pattern, maybe it can plot the totality of darksend transactions with a good degree of accuracy by seeing things that we miss. This means that if someone controls the whole Internet (or know the flow of data therein - which is what the NSA can do for a large percentage of the traffic) the sending will ultimately be revealed if this works. Essentially we're dealing with AI-grade resistant anonymity over a well-observed or well-controlled network by third parties (who want to know the transactions) in order to achieve future-proofing.

[kaene]

10 days ago I was mining 50 drk/day with 1200KH/s....Now only 5-6 

Fuck GPU miners 

Haha, 10 days ago your 50DRK were 5+ times cheaper, so you are still earning the same

[eduffield]

this coin currently makes no sense.

the 2 main things that set it apart from other coins are not yet implemented:

Encrypted transaction network: Work In Progress
Anonymous blockchain using coinjoin technology: Pre-Alpha


zerocoin will be released soon and it has all of these things taken care of since months.
and apparently can make any coin transaction anonymous through an integrated layer

I think we need variety in the cryptocoin space. Two anonymous currencies are better than one and much better than zero.

DarkSend is in a working state on testnet, so we're making good progress. I wouldn't call that non-existant. Also, Zerocoin uses exotic mathematics that could have some unforeseen hole in them and DarkSend uses a completely different implementation that is pretty straight forward and relies on tried and true mathematics. So again, 2 is better than 1.

Checkout this link to see the mathematics I'm talking about in Zerocoin: https://github.com/Zerocoin/libzerocoin/blob/master/AccumulatorProofOfKnowledge.cpp

Zerocoin's proof of work is in the 2 kilobyte range if I remember correctly, per transaction. That's alot better than it was for their first proof, but it will still cause alot of bloat in the blockchain. Darksend's method of anonymity on the other hand doesn't have very much bloat at all. 

Don't get me wrong, Zerocoin is very cool, but obviously I think Darkcoin has it's place. Further more, Zerocoin doesn't even exist yet. So we're the first anonymous currency that works with only the wallet.

[Honest Tim]

@eduffield I have just sent a PM, please help!

[sabyd]

10 days ago I was mining 50 drk/day with 1200KH/s....Now only 5-6 

Fuck GPU miners 

Haha, 10 days ago your 50DRK were 5+ times cheaper, so you are still earning the same

You are right,
But fortunately I still have that coin...eheheheh

[TrollboxChamp]

10 days ago I was mining 50 drk/day with 1200KH/s....Now only 5-6 

Fuck GPU miners 

Haha, 10 days ago your 50DRK were 5+ times cheaper, so you are still earning the same

You are right,
But fortunately I still have that coin...eheheheh

Think about in one month once this coin is fully implemented. You probably only gonna be mining 1-2.

[Acidyo]

10 days ago I was mining 50 drk/day with 1200KH/s....Now only 5-6 

Fuck GPU miners 

Haha, 10 days ago your 50DRK were 5+ times cheaper, so you are still earning the same

You are right,
But fortunately I still have that coin...eheheheh

Think about in one month once this coin is fully implemented. You probably only gonna be mining 1-2.

More like 0.1-0.2 / day.

[TrollboxChamp]

10 days ago I was mining 50 drk/day with 1200KH/s....Now only 5-6 

Fuck GPU miners 

Haha, 10 days ago your 50DRK were 5+ times cheaper, so you are still earning the same

You are right,
But fortunately I still have that coin...eheheheh

Think about in one month once this coin is fully implemented. You probably only gonna be mining 1-2.

More like 0.1-0.2 / day.

Oh man!  I hope we see those kind of adoption rates 

[TrollboxChamp]

We should work on securing the network. Disperse and increase hashrate throughout more pools.

[danonthehill]

@eduffield, sent you a PM available for closed testing now and anytime in the next 10 hours.

[w0lf0.]

anyone mining with 290? what conf u using?

[Acidyo]

Starting a tipbot stresstest thread on reddit.

The main point is to upvote the tipbot username so that it won't be blocked by "insert captchas here" which new accounts usually have to go through on reddit. After it has reached a certain amount of comment karma, the captchas will dissappear and the tipbot will be able to freely verify tips to everyone using it on reddit.

So come join me and start tipping/upvoting the thread, reddit is a good way to get more people into Darkcoin and I will personally start tipping people in and outside of the subreddit to get more traffic to it.

If you want to help, register with the tipbot and start depositing some coins to your tipbot wallet.

Will make a post on the subreddit for how you use the tipbot in case some of you aren't familiar with it.

If you want to donate so that I can have more coins to spread around reddit, here is my tipbot address, I just sent 2 coins over:

XcQTXnENSiRRDj5XzYK2X6imXNgkRzmhfn

Thanks, and hopefully people will start using the subreddit more

reddit.com/r/DRKcoin

[mirny]

can someone make an EU P2P node?

[child_harold]

anyone mining with 290? what conf u using?

the same i used for mining litecoin (minus kernel=scrypt ofc)

I=19 TC=24000 W=256 gpu-engine=0-947 gpu-memory=1250

2.2Mh/s

[getmining.info]

anyone mining with 290? what conf u using?

-I 20 -w 512 --gpu-powertune 20 --shaders 2560 --lookup-gap 2 --thread-concurrency 32765

2.2Mh/s

[child_harold]

whats happening over at http://drkpool.com ?

"Pool Invalid   144,191 (41.04%)
Your Invalid   26 (0.18%)"

Im pretty sure i was getting less DRK than I ought > 1.8 DRK after 16 hours of mining at 4.5 Mh/s

[jajunk77]

I'm still pretty much a noob to mining, but have successfully mined other coins.  I'm having a bit of a problem with GPU mining this one. I've downloaded the GPU miner from the darkcoin website, but get errors on two different AMD machines:

sgminer.exe --kernel darkcoin -o stratum+tcp://pool.darkcoin.io:3333 -u u1-p p1

Error -11: Building Program (clBuildProgram)
Error compiling program for search.
Frontend phase failed compilation.
Error: Creating kernerl search failed!

Failed to init GPU thread 0, disabling device 0...


I've also tried regular SGMINER and they all get rejected.  I did get the CPU miner working at about 100KH/s, which I guess is decent.

Also, just curious, if this thing is ASIC resistant, what kind of rig is getting 140MH/s?

Any help would be appreciated.

[AlexGR]

whats happening over at http://drkpool.com ?

"Pool Invalid   144,191 (41.04%)
Your Invalid   26 (0.18%)"

Im pretty sure i was getting less DRK than I ought > 1.8 DRK after 16 hours of mining at 4.5 Mh/s

Not that I know what's happening, but you should check round by round. If there is a spike of invalids in one or a few rounds, then it's just a problematic mining client submitting thousands of invalids in quick succession. This can happen when tweaking the code in cpuminer, sgminer etc.