[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[jdp527]

Dang. honestly, my favorite part.
Going to just stick to my day job.

I don't know if I was supposed to laugh but I did. Take out the bane quotes. Take out the Deshi Basara chant.

Hey! Put it back up! Don't take Sly's word for it - I love Bane quotes and chanting!

Back by popular demand

[boubou]

You were right Chaeplin: I compile it with the drivers inside the folder, and now I have my parameters taken into account.

Thanks for all.

[ning_aric]

Now I couldn't trade on ‘https://poloniex.com/exchange’ , what happened?

[darko84]

Now I couldn't trade on ‘https://poloniex.com/exchange’ , what happened?

I only get massage "This market iz frozen".

[ning_aric]

Now I couldn't trade on ‘https://poloniex.com/exchange’ , what happened?

I only get massage "This market iz frozen".

frozen means what? it will be OK?

[eizh]

So what's the rationale for this block reward system? (11111 / (((Difficulty+51)/6) ^ 2))

As I understand it, the TOTAL distribution per unit time will come crashing down as network hashrate goes up. Not to mention each miner is getting a tinier slice. That's rather discouraging.

[ress]

So what's the rationale for this block reward system? (11111 / (((Difficulty+51)/6) ^ 2))

As I understand it, the TOTAL distribution per unit time will come crashing down as network hashrate goes up. Not to mention each miner is getting a tinier slice. That's rather discouraging.

Apart from Darksend, I think this is the best feature of the coin. All other altcoins become diluted if they doesn't become a instant success like Dogecoin.

[ErrorBcc]

Now I couldn't trade on ‘https://poloniex.com/exchange’ , what happened?

I only get massage "This market iz frozen".

frozen means what? it will be OK?

Read the tweets 

[Jungian]

Now I couldn't trade on ‘https://poloniex.com/exchange’ , what happened?

I only get massage "This market iz frozen".

frozen means what? it will be OK?

Read the tweets 

"Some markets may be frozen momentarily while some new security features are tested."

https://twitter.com/Poloniex

[darko84]

Thanks!

Poloniex Exchange @Poloniex
Some markets may be frozen momentarily while some new security features are tested.

[gsoul5005]

Very interesting coin! Been skimming through this topic and decided to throw some hash power at it. Sure, it's not the most profitable coin to mine atm - but that's not why I'm here.

Hmm.
What normal hashrate for 280x, 270x and 7850?
On 280x i have 1.8mh
270x - 1.176mh
7850 - 1.050mh

Its normal?

on my 280x i get 2.18 mhash

Care to share your conf settings? Im running at approx 1800 khash per r9 280x

I've experimented with 3 different 280X' and some older GPUs using the latest GPU miner.

280X:
ASUS DC2T (1160/1750): 2.4MH/s
Gigabyte Windforce 3X (1100/1500): 2.29MH/s
Sapphire Dual-X OC (1100/1500): 2.16MH/s

Fans at 60% = 60C-64C in a 29C ambient room

Code:

-g 2 -w 256 --thread-concurrency 8192 --shaders 2048 --lookup-gap 2

No intensity setting apparently means dynamic intensity of 13-14

Older GPUs:
MSI R6970 Twin Frozr III (940/1350): 1.57MH/s
ASUS DC2 HD6950 (810/1250): 1.41MH/s   <<<--- flashed to 6970
ASUS DC2 HD6950 (810/1250): 1.32MH/s   <<<--- this donk doesn't want to get flashed

Code:

-I 18 -g 1 -w 256 --gpu-fan 60,50,50 --lookup-gap 2 --thread-concurrency 8000,8000,8192 --shaders 1536,1536,1408

Fans at 60%/50%/50% = 64C-70C in a 29C ambient room

May i know which drivers you are using for these ->
MSI R6970 Twin Frozr III (940/1350): 1.57MH/s
ASUS DC2 HD6950 (810/1250): 1.41MH/s   <<<--- flashed to 6970
ASUS DC2 HD6950 (810/1250): 1.32MH/s   <<<--- this donk doesn't want to get flashed

I cant get more than 1.3MH/s x 2 with my ASUS 6990 (830/1250) with 13.8 (beta 2) 

[eizh]

So what's the rationale for this block reward system? (11111 / (((Difficulty+51)/6) ^ 2))

As I understand it, the TOTAL distribution per unit time will come crashing down as network hashrate goes up. Not to mention each miner is getting a tinier slice. That's rather discouraging.

Apart from Darksend, I think this is the best feature of the coin. All other altcoins become diluted if they doesn't become a instant success like Dogecoin.

So the early adopter edge becomes even more overwhelming? Nice way to kill a coin. An exchange medium is only worth something if others agree and also have a stake. We'll just end up a small group of hoarders waiting around for something to happen. Reminds me of QRK.

[LimLims]

So what's the rationale for this block reward system? (11111 / (((Difficulty+51)/6) ^ 2))

As I understand it, the TOTAL distribution per unit time will come crashing down as network hashrate goes up. Not to mention each miner is getting a tinier slice. That's rather discouraging.

Apart from Darksend, I think this is the best feature of the coin. All other altcoins become diluted if they doesn't become a instant success like Dogecoin.

So the early adopter edge becomes even more overwhelming? Nice way to kill a coin. An exchange medium is only worth something if others agree and also have a stake. We'll just end up a small group of hoarders waiting around for something to happen. Reminds me of QRK.

Yeah, assuming I've understood that correctly, it does seem counter-intuitive. One would think that hashrate would correlate with adoption & demand, and you'd want the supply of coins to (to some extent) scale with demand. Scaling supply inversely with demand seems wrong. Curious to hear the rationale behind this.

[JGCMiner]

So what's the rationale for this block reward system? (11111 / (((Difficulty+51)/6) ^ 2))

As I understand it, the TOTAL distribution per unit time will come crashing down as network hashrate goes up. Not to mention each miner is getting a tinier slice. That's rather discouraging.

Apart from Darksend, I think this is the best feature of the coin. All other altcoins become diluted if they doesn't become a instant success like Dogecoin.

So the early adopter edge becomes even more overwhelming? Nice way to kill a coin. An exchange medium is only worth something if others agree and also have a stake. We'll just end up a small group of hoarders waiting around for something to happen. Reminds me of QRK.

That is overstating things. Reading through the thread, it is abundantly clear that the devs and other early adopters believe in the coin and are not planning a massive dump.  

IMO this is a feature -- not a problem or a scam.  Basically, it allows for the devs to have a more fine control over how the coin is released into the market; and thus prevents a “mid-life” dump via multipools and whale miners that troubles many a coin once the price starts to rise.  As mentioned above, if a coin is super-popular from the beginning like Doge then there is no problem as it gets distributed to a wide range of miners.  Even if whales or whatnot show up later there is a big enough dedicated mining community that in effect prevents these entities from negatively effecting the market.  

On the other hand, coins that don't blow up from the beginning and slowly rise in price due to the efforts of the early adopters, inevitably get attacked by these whales/mutlipools -- and the diff increase alone never seems to be enough to prevent a ton of coins of entering the hands of the few.  When these coins get dumped... the market crashes.  The way Darkcoin is currently set up this cannot happen.  And yes, even though Darkcoin is multipool resistant – it is still vulnerable to whales (it was actually getting hammered before the diff /reward system was enhanced by KGW).

Now, I know it may seem unfair to latecomer miners and some trolls even went as far as trying to discourage people by calling this a instamine. But the thing is... the vast majority of coins have a high percentage owned by early adopters.  That is the reward they get for believing in the coin before anybody else.  Due to the diff/reward system Darkcoin might be a little more extreme, but as I just explained that system has a very important purpose.

Lastly, it is not like the devs are not willing to respond.  Take a look at the diff/reward chart below.  

The blue line is actually a hardfork that was put in place a couple of weeks ago to be ready for GPU miners (GPU client first released last week) so that reward wouldn't drop to zero once the hash power went through the roof.  

Tldr; This is a fair coin. The diff/reward is a feature that allows more fine control over how much coin is released into the market and thus prevents manipulation by whales who plan to dump.

[slyA]

So what's the rationale for this block reward system? (11111 / (((Difficulty+51)/6) ^ 2))

As I understand it, the TOTAL distribution per unit time will come crashing down as network hashrate goes up. Not to mention each miner is getting a tinier slice. That's rather discouraging.

Apart from Darksend, I think this is the best feature of the coin. All other altcoins become diluted if they doesn't become a instant success like Dogecoin.

So the early adopter edge becomes even more overwhelming? Nice way to kill a coin. An exchange medium is only worth something if others agree and also have a stake. We'll just end up a small group of hoarders waiting around for something to happen. Reminds me of QRK.

That is overstating things. Reading through the thread, it is abundantly clear that the devs and other early adopters believe in the coin and are not planning a massive dump. 

IMO this is a feature -- not a problem or a scam.  Basically, it allows for the devs to have a more fine control over how the coin is released into the market; and thus prevents a “mid-life” dump via multipools and whale miners that troubles many a coin once the price starts to rise.  As mentioned above, if a coin is super-popular from the beginning like Doge then there is no problem as it gets distributed to a wide range of miners.  Even if whales or whatnot show up later there is a big enough dedicated mining community that in effect prevents these entities from negatively effecting the market. 

On the other hand, coins that don't blow up from the beginning and slowly rise in price due to the efforts of the early adopters, inevitably get attacked by these whales/mutlipools -- and the diff increase alone never seems to be enough to prevent a ton of coins of entering the hands of the few.  When these coins get dumped... the market crashes.  The way Darkcoin is currently set up this cannot happen.  And yes, even though Darkcoin is multipool resistant – it is still vulnerable to whales (it was actually getting hammered before the diff /reward system was enhanced by KGW).

Now, I know it may seem unfair to latecomer miners and some trolls even went as far as trying to discourage people by calling this a instamine. But the thing is... the vast majority of coins have a high percentage owned by early adopters.  That is the reward they get for believing in the coin before anybody else.  Due to the diff/reward system Darkcoin might be a little more extreme, but as I just explained that system has a very important purpose.

This is a fair coin. The diff/reward is a feature that allows more fine control over how much coin is released into the market and thus prevents manipulation by dumpers.

Not really mate. If a large percent of coins is being held by a select few then this coin is in jeopardy sorry to say. We can wax poetic all we want about how people believe in this coin but that is just not true. A quick look at the charts wil tell you how trigger happy the so called early adopters are in dumping this coin. Greed rules this free market and lets not bury our heads in the sand here.

The early adopters can and are currently molesting the price to a stand still unfortunately and that is turning away investors and miners. As long as we are still on small exchanges, this will continue and when we eventually hit big exchanges, I expect there to be a huge dump because people are greedy and that is the honest truth.

[JGCMiner]

So what's the rationale for this block reward system? (11111 / (((Difficulty+51)/6) ^ 2))

As I understand it, the TOTAL distribution per unit time will come crashing down as network hashrate goes up. Not to mention each miner is getting a tinier slice. That's rather discouraging.

Apart from Darksend, I think this is the best feature of the coin. All other altcoins become diluted if they doesn't become a instant success like Dogecoin.

So the early adopter edge becomes even more overwhelming? Nice way to kill a coin. An exchange medium is only worth something if others agree and also have a stake. We'll just end up a small group of hoarders waiting around for something to happen. Reminds me of QRK.

That is overstating things. Reading through the thread, it is abundantly clear that the devs and other early adopters believe in the coin and are not planning a massive dump. 

IMO this is a feature -- not a problem or a scam.  Basically, it allows for the devs to have a more fine control over how the coin is released into the market; and thus prevents a “mid-life” dump via multipools and whale miners that troubles many a coin once the price starts to rise.  As mentioned above, if a coin is super-popular from the beginning like Doge then there is no problem as it gets distributed to a wide range of miners.  Even if whales or whatnot show up later there is a big enough dedicated mining community that in effect prevents these entities from negatively effecting the market. 

On the other hand, coins that don't blow up from the beginning and slowly rise in price due to the efforts of the early adopters, inevitably get attacked by these whales/mutlipools -- and the diff increase alone never seems to be enough to prevent a ton of coins of entering the hands of the few.  When these coins get dumped... the market crashes.  The way Darkcoin is currently set up this cannot happen.  And yes, even though Darkcoin is multipool resistant – it is still vulnerable to whales (it was actually getting hammered before the diff /reward system was enhanced by KGW).

Now, I know it may seem unfair to latecomer miners and some trolls even went as far as trying to discourage people by calling this a instamine. But the thing is... the vast majority of coins have a high percentage owned by early adopters.  That is the reward they get for believing in the coin before anybody else.  Due to the diff/reward system Darkcoin might be a little more extreme, but as I just explained that system has a very important purpose.

This is a fair coin. The diff/reward is a feature that allows more fine control over how much coin is released into the market and thus prevents manipulation by dumpers.

Not really mate. If a large percent of coins is being held by a select few then this coin is in jeopardy sorry to say. We can wax poetic all we want about how people believe in this coin but that is just not true. A quick look at the charts wil tell you how trigger happy the so called early adopters are in dumping this coin. Greed rules this free market and lets not bury our heads in the sand here.

The early adopters can and are currently molesting the price to a stand still unfortunately and that is turning away investors and miners. As long as we are still on small exchanges, this will continue and when we eventually hit big exchanges, I expect there to be a huge dump because people are greedy and that is the honest truth.

But that is true for any coin.  Is Darkcoin provably worse? Plus look at Bitcoin -- when it got harder to mine coins what happened to the price...

[tabnk]

It was not easy path for DRK to have today value. More challenge coming, which this coin will SHINE !!!

[CHAOSiTEC]

So what's the rationale for this block reward system? (11111 / (((Difficulty+51)/6) ^ 2))

As I understand it, the TOTAL distribution per unit time will come crashing down as network hashrate goes up. Not to mention each miner is getting a tinier slice. That's rather discouraging.

Apart from Darksend, I think this is the best feature of the coin. All other altcoins become diluted if they doesn't become a instant success like Dogecoin.

So the early adopter edge becomes even more overwhelming? Nice way to kill a coin. An exchange medium is only worth something if others agree and also have a stake. We'll just end up a small group of hoarders waiting around for something to happen. Reminds me of QRK.

That is overstating things. Reading through the thread, it is abundantly clear that the devs and other early adopters believe in the coin and are not planning a massive dump. 

IMO this is a feature -- not a problem or a scam.  Basically, it allows for the devs to have a more fine control over how the coin is released into the market; and thus prevents a “mid-life” dump via multipools and whale miners that troubles many a coin once the price starts to rise.  As mentioned above, if a coin is super-popular from the beginning like Doge then there is no problem as it gets distributed to a wide range of miners.  Even if whales or whatnot show up later there is a big enough dedicated mining community that in effect prevents these entities from negatively effecting the market. 

On the other hand, coins that don't blow up from the beginning and slowly rise in price due to the efforts of the early adopters, inevitably get attacked by these whales/mutlipools -- and the diff increase alone never seems to be enough to prevent a ton of coins of entering the hands of the few.  When these coins get dumped... the market crashes.  The way Darkcoin is currently set up this cannot happen.  And yes, even though Darkcoin is multipool resistant – it is still vulnerable to whales (it was actually getting hammered before the diff /reward system was enhanced by KGW).

Now, I know it may seem unfair to latecomer miners and some trolls even went as far as trying to discourage people by calling this a instamine. But the thing is... the vast majority of coins have a high percentage owned by early adopters.  That is the reward they get for believing in the coin before anybody else.  Due to the diff/reward system Darkcoin might be a little more extreme, but as I just explained that system has a very important purpose.

This is a fair coin. The diff/reward is a feature that allows more fine control over how much coin is released into the market and thus prevents manipulation by dumpers.

Not really mate. If a large percent of coins is being held by a select few then this coin is in jeopardy sorry to say. We can wax poetic all we want about how people believe in this coin but that is just not true. A quick look at the charts wil tell you how trigger happy the so called early adopters are in dumping this coin. Greed rules this free market and lets not bury our heads in the sand here.

The early adopters can and are currently molesting the price to a stand still unfortunately and that is turning away investors and miners. As long as we are still on small exchanges, this will continue and when we eventually hit big exchanges, I expect there to be a huge dump because people are greedy and that is the honest truth.

well seems like i have to chime in here, as an early adopter, believing in this coin, i have earned a nice load of coin, but i have also given away aproximatly 40% of it, either as part of lotterymining.com, as competition for designing a logo for my pool, and also the faucet, so to say that the early adopters are just going to dump the horded load, is bullshit, some will, thats human nature, but some do believe in it, and have worked hard to help everyone else that came and wanted to mine, i look at what i have left as "payment for the unaccounted hours" ive used to help others. so please refrain from putting everyone into the same box!

[chompyZ]

Hello,

I've got a question for buying BTC.
As I think it's low, I was thinking in buying BTC with $.

But what I saw in coinbase : Bank Accounts Used to buy and sell bitcoins — U.S. only
Can't use visa credit card there?

I already try the VirWox.. They closed/banned my account directly because I was suspicious lol.. They never told me why, the country?

What? For information I'm French living in Mexico.

How can I do to buy BTC with fiat? I never did it, always haing BTC by mining other coin....

If you do have credit card, i can refer a good merchant.

Who else takes CC?

Sorry . . They stopped accepting .

I saw ads from these guys, claiming they sell crypto for paypal / cc.
never tried them. if you do try them and it works fine, drop some feedback.
http://www.burnerbrothers.com/buydogecoin/

[mannie]

I'm not sure if anyone else has worked on this but I've created a draft media release about DarkCoin and the testing. I think it's important to get the word out now that DarkSend is in development and then follow up with another release once DarkSend is active.

I'm not the most tech savvy person so would appreciate some help if I've got anything wrong but it may be better for it to be in layman's language considering the readers will largely be non tech media (and consumers of media)!

I think it needs a quote from the Dev so I've added space in there for that. Someone also needs to be the media contact (also Dev?).

Also, it would be good to start a mailing list of media (reporters who are currently covering Bitcoin and others) to send these releases to. Maybe someone could start a spreadsheet on Google docs or something?

Here is the draft release:

http://pastebin.com/UYRDqkRt

This is great, thanks! Here's an edited version with a quote from me. Let me know if you need anything else

http://pastebin.com/2uFZ6R5g

Thanks! Very happy with the edits and quote. I've cleaned it up a little and pasted a new version. Any more suggestions out there? And anyone want to start a mailing list?

http://pastebin.com/HjrXLCfg

Here is a start to the media mailing list of people who have written about crypto. Does anyone know how to share a list publicly so anyone can add to it?

http://pastebin.com/DMWjmqG2