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Author Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency  (Read 9723489 times)
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February 24, 2014, 09:33:55 PM
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Another dump on Poloniex. Have anyone calculated how much was dumped in total?

There is a volume information - 12043 DRK.

Probably the dude who bought a shit ton with the bugged out btc yesterday on c-cex.

:/ this is gonna be a mild crash of the dark economy, I believe.

Yeah, they have his username and the guys in the trollbox at c-cex are working on tracking him down.
If you are interested - check the chat over there.
*quick summary* c-cex exchange wallet gone yesterday (300 btc), extracted from wallet all btc they could - then they bought up all the drk they could - transferred to poloniex and sold.
everyone who had btc at c-cex yesterday (not today - the system is fine again - hole was patched), their btc is on hold until c-cex earns enough to pay them back one by one

THEY HAVE RUINED ME!!!

They are holding my btc I'm supposed to pay my rent with and now I'm about to be kicked out. Is that fair? Is any of this alright?! I don't know what to do.  Undecided

Wow, that sux. And hope you get things worked out.

But I learned long time ago with these things, if you can afford to lose the money, dont risk it. Can't live paycheck to paycheck on Crypto.

I know. Unfortuntely, I broke that rule.
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February 24, 2014, 09:39:21 PM
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The Windows tray icon is still not correct in the updated version of the wallet (yellow Xcoin). Should be updated for a more "pro" look. Nothing major though...
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February 24, 2014, 09:46:00 PM
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Seems like the guy may be trying to return the c-cex funds as we speak....maybe.
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February 24, 2014, 10:00:34 PM
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Seems like the guy may be trying to return the c-cex funds as we speak....maybe.

Support on ccex said that they got back some 14.000 DRK and are working to get the rest.

The "hacker" seems to write here also: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=485029

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February 24, 2014, 10:08:04 PM
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Some one must feel extremely threatened by darkcoin for them to feel the necessity to take all those btc and dump its on it particularly. We knew this coin would have enemies with it being such a strong contender in the crypto world.
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February 24, 2014, 10:09:09 PM
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Seems like the guy may be trying to return the c-cex funds as we speak....maybe.

Support on ccex said that they got back some 14.000 DRK and are working to get the rest.

The "hacker" seems to write here also: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=485029



Hacker isn't the right word - he's just a guy who stumbled upon an error in the code during withdrawal or deposit (they have since patched the error) and went with it, taking advantage after the fact. We'll see what happens - but based on the post perhaps he is trying to rectify the mistake of trying to run with it.
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February 24, 2014, 10:12:22 PM
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lol also Mintpal down?

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February 24, 2014, 10:15:47 PM
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Yeah if we could get an exchange that would work, that would be great.
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February 24, 2014, 10:16:51 PM
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Seems like the guy may be trying to return the c-cex funds as we speak....maybe.
It sounds like the same guy that hacked XCP. He claimed he was a white hat, but after days never returned anything. Probably was just buying time to better cover his tracks. That hack was protocol level on XCP he extracted 35,000 XCP and deposited on Poloniex. Then sold it for BTC, then withdrew it leaving things in a big mess. Maybe he used some of that BTC for the market manipulations, but somehow got c-cex wallet?

Very scary stuff.

On a separate note, does anybody know if DRK supports multisig? If is is based on bitcoind fork, it should, but with all the wonderful changes, I am not sure if that still works with DRK.

If it does, I am working on a project you might all be interested in. It is an automated multisig gateway into NXT Asset Exchange. I am close to getting a proof of concept release done with DOGE. I know, I know. It was just cheap enough that I didnt mind if I lost it during testing. So I am using real DOGE on the NXT testnet.

Every exchange is part gateway and part centralized exchange. We know what can happen with centralization. One breach and ** poof ** all gone.

I have designed the automated gateway to do an atomic exchange when DOGE is deposited and NXT Asset is transferred. There is small risk that one of the gateways disappears with a pending deposit, but you can always just deposit in small increments, I handle multiple simultaneous deposits. Once it is inside the NXT Asset Exchange, you can trade DRK for NXT and also NXT for whatever other coins we support. All of the NXT Asset Exchange trades are done using decentralized network, so there is no single point of failure. The same protection that cryptos get applies to the NXT assets.

So, automated deposit, atomic conversion to NXT asset, decentralized trading of assets with NXT. What about withdrawal?

That is the best part! I read up on all the various cross chain transaction proposals, but I couldnt really understand them well enough to be confident that I was implementing it correctly. So, I chose to use multisig accounts for the gateways to store the deposits. Unlike with c-cex and all other centralized exchanges where you might not even know where they are storing the coins on deposit. Cold storage they say. Uh huh, how convenient. I wanted there to be a 100% verifiable account where the deposits are kept. Now, even if you know that the exchange's deposit account fully backs what you put in, what is to stop an exchange from simply taking off with a big balance? Or getting hacked? Same difference as far as customers are concerned.

Since bitcoind network supports 3 way multisig and I need to handle the case of one of the signers going missing, the first version uses 2 of 3 multisig. This means that there are three independent gateways, maybe fiercely independent competitors! No single gateway can touch the funds in the multisig deposit acct. It needs to get a co-signer for each and every withdrawal. So, as long as two independent gateway servers arent hacked at the same time, the multisig deposits are safe.

I want to add DRK to the multisig gateway, but I wanted to make sure it supports it.

NXT Asset Exchange is not released on mainnet yet, but it should be pretty soon, so I am scrambling to have the multisig gateway running by then. I think it would be great if two of the gateways was managed by the DRK community. I am envisioning operating the automated gateways as a non-profit. It really doesnt take much server resources, especially if you are already running darkcoind. I am writing all the code from scratch in C and it will be open source.

Once this is live, you will be able to trade DRK inside of NXT knowing that you will always be able to withdraw it to your private wallet. I will be making automated account balance monitoring bots so as soon as anything goes wrong, all withdrawals get suspended until it gets sorted out. I can also make it automatically cancel all the pending offers in the Asset exchange, so there is not much a thief can do. In the worst case, we can simply use a snapshot of everyone's balances (peer reviewed) just prior to the hack and simply recreate the exact balances for everyone with a newly issued asset. Whatever NXT asset was stolen wont be worth anything after the gateways switch to the new asset.

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February 24, 2014, 10:19:10 PM
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I have half of my first rig's ROI frozen.

And I might lose it all. Fun! c-cex should take the hit.. not me.. all trades should be finalized aswell,

if they only return the fake money buys what about the unfairness to the people that bought high due to the wave..

how are they compensating for that?..

blergh!
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February 24, 2014, 10:24:36 PM
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Sounds like magic. Gonna read that again tomorrow hoping to understand it.  Cheesy
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February 24, 2014, 10:33:54 PM
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Sounds like magic. Gonna read that again tomorrow hoping to understand it.  Cheesy
multisig is actually built into bitcoind, but it is a real pain in the ass to use, so there is very little support for it. I cant claim to understand the maths behind it fully, but in a 2 of 3 multisig, any 2 signers can release the transaction.

If the network supported it, a 4 of 5 multisig would be practically impossible to crack. 4 simultaneous breaches at 4 independent servers.

The code is quite tricky, so I am hoping to work with talented devs to make sure it is as secure as possible. We all know DRK has a power dev team

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February 24, 2014, 10:40:50 PM
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Seems like the guy may be trying to return the c-cex funds as we speak....maybe.

On a separate note, does anybody know if DRK supports multisig? If is is based on bitcoind fork, it should, but with all the wonderful changes, I am not sure if that still works with DRK.


Yes, still supported. In fact It'll be used in DarkSend by default in a very unique way, but I'll get into that later  Smiley

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February 24, 2014, 10:44:19 PM
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Hi guys

When will the darksend be implemented?

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DarkSend is coming along great, I've fixed all of the issues that were brought up during the last test and the last couple days I wrote up the anonmizing tech that lives in DarkSend. It looks like it's working great, so I should be announcing a test date where everyone can try it out soon.

Next DarkSend test, 100% of sent transactions will be anonymous. Looking forward to showing it off!

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February 24, 2014, 10:45:59 PM
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Seems like the guy may be trying to return the c-cex funds as we speak....maybe.

On a separate note, does anybody know if DRK supports multisig? If is is based on bitcoind fork, it should, but with all the wonderful changes, I am not sure if that still works with DRK.


Yes, still supported. In fact It'll be used in DarkSend by default in a very unique way, but I'll get into that later  Smiley
Darkdeposits and Darkwithdrawals Smiley

What do you think of going from 3 multisigs as the max that is treated as normal transaction to something a bit higher, like 5? On bitcoin network support for 5 multisigs is spotty at best and in DOGE land, almost nonexistent.

2 of 3 is a massive improvement over centralized exchanges, but my original design was 4 of 5 having the right balance of redundancy without requiring an army of gateway providers

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February 24, 2014, 10:47:00 PM
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Hi guys

When will the darksend be implemented?

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DarkSend is coming along great, I've fixed all of the issues that were brought up during the last test and the last couple days I wrote up the anonmizing tech that lives in DarkSend. It looks like it's working great, so I should be announcing a test date where everyone can try it out soon.

Next DarkSend test, 100% of sent transactions will be anonymous. Looking forward to showing it off!


Thank you, I noticed you have been staying out of all the stuff that's gone on, probably an excellent idea.
Glad to hear positive news!
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February 24, 2014, 10:47:03 PM
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Hi guys

When will the darksend be implemented?

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DarkSend is coming along great, I've fixed all of the issues that were brought up during the last test and the last couple days I wrote up the anonmizing tech that lives in DarkSend. It looks like it's working great, so I should be announcing a test date where everyone can try it out soon.

Next DarkSend test, 100% of sent transactions will be anonymous. Looking forward to showing it off!


Ohhhhh yeahhh!! Lets get on this! I"ll be there testing it out with you guys! Lets get this rolling! Well done!
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February 24, 2014, 10:47:23 PM
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The official pool is humming along again, we're getting blocks and we've lowered the transaction fee to 0.01 for withdraws. Anyone who left, come on back! Thanks

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February 24, 2014, 10:48:56 PM
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Finally some good news after all the drama with the hacking.

Hi guys

When will the darksend be implemented?

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DarkSend is coming along great, I've fixed all of the issues that were brought up during the last test and the last couple days I wrote up the anonmizing tech that lives in DarkSend. It looks like it's working great, so I should be announcing a test date where everyone can try it out soon.

Next DarkSend test, 100% of sent transactions will be anonymous. Looking forward to showing it off!

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February 24, 2014, 10:51:29 PM
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Is anyone having issues with http://pool.darkcoin.io payouts? I have coins there but it will not send out auto or manual.

Thanks



from what I hear, is that polo is getting DDOS'd

Great, thanks for the info
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