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[studentwiskunde]

Darkcoin price ticker Android app.

You can download it from Google Play store.
By searching on:

- DRK price
- DRK price ticker
- Darkcoin price
- Darkcoin price ticker
- Price ticker

Or going to the following link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nl.wiskunde.drk&hl=nl

Sincerely,

Wiskunde

Darkcoin donation address: Xs6CMP9B4uaiyYe1XqQDK5dPa5wXB1Nnn2

Announcement

Version 2

Darkcoin(DRK) price ticker

*** App ***
* Darkcoin(DRK) prices shown in Bitcoin,Dollar, Euro, Yuan, and Yen
* Push on Darkcoin logo to refresh price
* Ability input total coins, afterwards total value will be calculated automatically.

*** Widget (beta version) ***
* Widget functionality (push on widget to refresh)
* Widget updates automatically every 5 minutes
* Widget supports Bitcoin, Dollar, and Euro

What's new
- Loading is optimized
- Support for two other currencies: Yuan, and Yen.
- Ability to input your total coins, afterwards total value will be calculated automatically.

New version will be available within two hours on Google Play.

Enjoy!

Please donate to support.

Sincerely,

Wiskunde

Announcement

MintPal API is not working. So the price ticker is not showing any price information.

I have decided to get price information from Bittrex instead of MintPal.

The app is updated and uploaded on Google Play, and will be available within two hours on Google Play.

Sincerely,

Wiskunde

Darkcoin price ticker
Exchange price info changed from MintPal to Bittrex
Download is now available on Google Play!

[defunctec]

To look at the on book order flow presently isn't entirely a great reflection of what will be in the future.

I agree with you. I understand how this works.

My point is this: If you are just barely breathing, and then try to hold your breath for 3 minutes... There comes a point of no return. Maybe if you had been breathing normally up to that point, you could have pulled it off. But you're already starved for oxygen, and now you try to hold your breath for 3 minutes...

The market is already barely alive. Cutting off supply isn't going to have the usual effect of driving up value, and we've witnessed this to be true. People are just staying out. Look at Doge. Why can it hold value in useless pump of extreme inflationary coin? The extreme inflationary nature means it has liquidity... People can buy it and then use it without fucking themselves out of position.

We should stop seeing what we want to see and look at what is actually happening. The evidence is right there... We're just not seeing it because we think we know how this shit works. Clearly, we don't know what we think we know or doge would be 0.00000001 - it's not. So, the rules we think we know clearly aren't applying.

We're decreasing liquidity at a time when there is already a death rattle as a result of not enough liquidity...

Maybe I'm overstating it. I'm not trying to claim that what I'm saying is the path we're on. It sure a shit looks like it... But it looks like PPC should have a market cap of 0. It doesn't... So, what things look like, according the the rules we think we know; it isn't working that way. Crypto changed the fundamental way we thought about money, but I think we have arrived at the wrong conclusions because what we thought we knew is not happening, at all, not even close.

Well 10 out of 10 for persistence Camo in trying to get your point across! I absolutely agree with you. It's a lovely notion that we might end up with 3000 MNs and far less coins in circulation as a result with DRK's price increasing substantially (and MN payments being higher; amongst other factors) but if liquidity isn't there, your examples of a potential user of DRK avoiding it because of the costs of getting hold of enough DRK to perform their transaction outweighing the benefits are a real issue. I know that BTC has gone through many phases in its progression from pure speculative play to being used to transact with, and it still has a long pathway to go before it's truly acting as a "currency", but it's essential we focus on DRK being usable for people to transact anonymously with and they can't do that for any reasonably large sums as it currently stands. If someone wanted to move US$100K anonymously using DRK, their buy (and subsequent sell which everyone would cry "dumper...!" at) would shift the price substantially. So it's currently just not usable for its intended function and we need to get it to be.

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts Evan Duffield on this important facet of DRK's economic make-up.

Again, in time liquidity will increase. The volume isn't there and the adoption isn't there for anyone going to try to move $100k right now (DRK isn't even at that stage yet). Until we start seeing >1000 BTC volume days, we are at the mercy of an anemic altcoin market. I think it's poor for anyone to make long-term views on liquidity assumptions with how thin order books are presently, as if they will always remain that way. Certainly, if that's the case, no altcoin is going to survive. In theory, the BTC ETF should bring fresh capital into the crypto markets and we'd see spillage into the altcoins, DRK being one that should see benefit to this. At 3000 MN's and just using today's supply of around 4.8M coins, that leaves 1.8 million coins for trading, but it's naive to think of that as low available liquidity. There is actually 180,000,000,000,000 units available from all the duffs out there. Are you telling me this amount isn't sufficient for daily volume??

I think it's poor for anyone to make long-term views on liquidity assumptions with how thin order books are presently, as if they will always remain that way.

Not suggesting the current level of liquidity will always remain; just wanting to stimulate conversation on this, as per Camo's commentary. I believe DRK will eventually have great liquidity and be very useful, but maybe there are ideas (like illodin's) that could accelerate DRK's ability to be used for more than just the current speculative focus.

At 3000 MN's and just using today's supply of around 4.8M coins, that leaves 1.8 million coins for trading, but it's naive to think of that as low available liquidity

No, I'm not thinking that. I know that the divisibility down to 8 decimal places creates a lot of room for movement in value. The essence of what I'm interested in is the pathway DRK needs to travel to see dramatically improved liquidity, to the point where large amounts of fiat can be converted without it causing massive spikes in the price.

I think we'll have more liquidity, I'll try to breakdown the argument:

1.) Let's say we have 3000 masternodes and a 400M marketcap. Masternodes enjoy 50% of the total coins mined. Lets say there's 6 million coins, so that's $66.60 per coin on the exchanges.
2.) The total masternode network will make 1440 coins a day (576*5*.50 = 1440)
3.) How much of those coins do they sell? 30%? If that's true, each day there will be 0.3*1440*66.6 worth of coins for sale. So we can do $28771 worth of business a day with no premium.

TLDR; A higher market cap means more people can buy things without any premium to use DRK. Also, if there's 50k of business happening a day the price will just go up, allowing more business to be done.

This isn't including the other 50% miners mine. So using the same example, there should be $57542 daily liquidity at 400M market cap.

Its a very good conversation you are all having, but its all very simple.

Darkcoin has a marketcap of 10 million dollars! In what universe would a currency worth 10million total, handle a daily transaction of hundreds of thousands of dollars without effecting the marketcap?

Surly due to supply and demand the marketcap would rise to a level that is considered "worth it".

Eg, Coinbase start to block transactions to say a (poker site) and people want to play poker, they can just use dark and pay what they consider to be worth playing poker online.

This tells me Darkcoin atm is just not in demand and explains the low market cap, which then results in someone not being able to transact the 100,000s of dollars you are talking about.

Marketcap will rise with use of Darkcoin, allowing bigger transactions to take place.

[oblox]

This isn't including the other 50% miners mine. So using the same example, there should be $57542 daily liquidity at 400M market cap.

Its a very good conversation you are all having, but its all very simple.

Darkcoin has a marketcap of 10 million dollars! In what universe would a currency worth 10million total, handle a daily transaction of hundreds of thousands of dollars without effecting the marketcap?

Surly due to supply and demand the marketcap would rise to a level that is considered "worth it".

Eg, Coinbase start to block transactions to say a (poker site) and people want to play poker, they can just use dark and pay what they consider to be worth playing poker online.

This tells me Darkcoin atm is just not in demand and explains the low market cap, which then results in someone not being able to transact the 100,000s of dollars you are talking about.

Marketcap will rise with use of Darkcoin, allowing bigger transactions to take place.

Bingo.

[Kai Proctor]

Yeah the key is darkcoin-exclusive services/shops.

[thelonecrouton]

Another excellent post by Cofresi on DCT in case anyone missed it:

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/instantx-micropayments-unlocking-the-potential-for-real-push-mechanism-in-cryptocurrencies.2642/#post-25197

[sergiokkl]

This is published an hour ago: http://www.forexminute.com/bitcoin/darkcoin-ideal-long-term-traders-46935



Full article: http://www.forexminute.com/bitcoin/darkcoin-ideal-long-term-traders-46935

Bump ...>>

+1  hold

[karlb187]

Yeah the key is darkcoin-exclusive services/shops.

I accept DRK for my ad space >> http://moneyinpjs.com/index.php/advertise

[stonehedge]

I accept DRK for karma 

[karlb187]

I accept DRK for karma 

nice. 

[KryptoFoo]

Guess that's a real buy wall on cryptsy 

[stonehedge]

Guess that's a real buy wall on cryptsy 

33.5 BTC worth.

I'll just keep looking at my testnet wallet and pretending I'm rich

[GhostPlayer]

 Anyone know the URL for bitcoinwisdom Bittrex DRK/BTC ? I tried to popping a combination, but got invalid call.

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[KryptoFoo]

Guess that's a real buy wall on cryptsy 

33.5 BTC worth.

I'll just keep looking at my testnet wallet and pretending I'm rich

was ~68BTC worth. Somebody is buying a crapload of DRK at these prices. Of course that means lots of folks are selling at these prices! Who is smarter? Hehehehe a rhetorical question.

[TheTommyD]

Guess that's a real buy wall on cryptsy 

33.5 BTC worth.

I'll just keep looking at my testnet wallet and pretending I'm rich

was ~68BTC worth. Somebody is buying a crapload of DRK at these prices. Of course that means lots of folks are selling at these prices! Who is smarter? Hehehehe a rhetorical question.

Maybe they're Scalping? Reminds me of Pac Man....Fun to watch. I got me some at .00560001 

[HinnomTX]

Guess that's a real buy wall on cryptsy 

33.5 BTC worth.

I'll just keep looking at my testnet wallet and pretending I'm rich

LOL! Playing on testnet distorts your senses, doesn't it? Everything looks identical to the real coin except for the [Testnet] indicator. Need cash? Get 1000 (t)DRK from the faucet. Just like money growing on trees...

[ultradar]

I DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS GOING ON WITH DARKCOIN .IM SO DISSAPOINTED ITS LIKE DARK BEING RAPED BY A BEARWHALE ..THE SELLING ITS GOING ON LIKE THERE IS NO TOMMOROW ..HOW CAN SOMEONE SELL ON SUCH A LOW PRICES..WHAT IS THIS FREAKY MANIPULATION THAT IS HAPPENING BEHIND DARKCOIN?? WHO IS TRYING TO KILL DARKCOIN?? IM SO CONCERNED ON THE WAY THE THINGS ARE WORKING FOR DARKCOIN RIGHT NOW..HOW CAN AN 68 BUY WALL GET FILLED IN SECONDS BY SOMEONE DUMPING ON 0.0056? THIS MEANS THAT ONLY PERSONS WHO GOT INTO DARKCOIN ON 0.0008-0.003 PRICES CAN DUMP AND PLAY SO HARD AND TRY TO KILL DARKCOIN..IT SEEMS THAT WE CANNOT FIND A STABILITY AND THEN RISE AGAIN...ONLY BAD BEARWHALE TRADERS FOR DARKCOIN..IM SO TIRED FOR THOSE AND I HOPE THAT I WILL SEE AGAIN DARK OVER 0.01 BUT I REALLY DOUBT IF THIS WILL HAPPEN AGAIN . EVAN IS TRYING TO DO A GOOD WORK HERE AND SOME IDIOTS TRYING TO HURT AND KILL THE COIN ..REVENGE ITS THE ONLY ANSWER AND I HOPE THIS WILL HAPPEN SOON!!

[jams951]

I DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS GOING ON WITH DARKCOIN .IM SO DISSAPOINTED ITS LIKE DARK BEING RAPED BY A BEARWHALE ..THE SELLING ITS GOING ON LIKE THERE IS NO TOMMOROW ..HOW CAN SOMEONE SELL ON SUCH A LOW PRICES..WHAT IS THIS FREAKY MANIPULATION THAT IS HAPPENING BEHIND DARKCOIN?? WHO IS TRYING TO KILL DARKCOIN?? IM SO CONCERNED ON THE WAY THE THINGS ARE WORKING FOR DARKCOIN RIGHT NOW..HOW CAN AN 68 BUY WALL GET FILLED IN SECONDS BY SOMEONE DUMPING ON 0.0056? THIS MEANS THAT ONLY PERSONS WHO GOT INTO DARKCOIN ON 0.0008-0.003 PRICES CAN DUMP AND PLAY SO HARD AND TRY TO KILL DARKCOIN..IT SEEMS THAT WE CANNOT FIND A STABILITY AND THEN RISE AGAIN...ONLY BAD BEARWHALE TRADERS FOR DARKCOIN..IM SO TIRED FOR THOSE AND I HOPE THAT I WILL SEE AGAIN DARK OVER 0.01 BUT I REALLY DOUBT IF THIS WILL HAPPEN AGAIN . EVAN IS TRYING TO DO A GOOD WORK HERE AND SOME IDIOTS TRYING TO HURT AND KILL THE COIN ..REVENGE ITS THE ONLY ANSWER AND I HOPE THIS WILL HAPPEN SOON!!

Yea I love and hate this coin but I'm tired of giving a shit about it. I'm just sitting on mine for a while to see what happens. If I gave a shit I'd get too pissed off, but yea the way this coin trades is fucking annoying I hear ya.

[ultradar]

I DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS GOING ON WITH DARKCOIN .IM SO DISSAPOINTED ITS LIKE DARK BEING RAPED BY A BEARWHALE ..THE SELLING ITS GOING ON LIKE THERE IS NO TOMMOROW ..HOW CAN SOMEONE SELL ON SUCH A LOW PRICES..WHAT IS THIS FREAKY MANIPULATION THAT IS HAPPENING BEHIND DARKCOIN?? WHO IS TRYING TO KILL DARKCOIN?? IM SO CONCERNED ON THE WAY THE THINGS ARE WORKING FOR DARKCOIN RIGHT NOW..HOW CAN AN 68 BUY WALL GET FILLED IN SECONDS BY SOMEONE DUMPING ON 0.0056? THIS MEANS THAT ONLY PERSONS WHO GOT INTO DARKCOIN ON 0.0008-0.003 PRICES CAN DUMP AND PLAY SO HARD AND TRY TO KILL DARKCOIN..IT SEEMS THAT WE CANNOT FIND A STABILITY AND THEN RISE AGAIN...ONLY BAD BEARWHALE TRADERS FOR DARKCOIN..IM SO TIRED FOR THOSE AND I HOPE THAT I WILL SEE AGAIN DARK OVER 0.01 BUT I REALLY DOUBT IF THIS WILL HAPPEN AGAIN . EVAN IS TRYING TO DO A GOOD WORK HERE AND SOME IDIOTS TRYING TO HURT AND KILL THE COIN ..REVENGE ITS THE ONLY ANSWER AND I HOPE THIS WILL HAPPEN SOON!!

Yea I love and hate this coin but I'm tired of giving a shit about it. I'm just sitting on mine for a while to see what happens. If I gave a shit I'd get too pissed off, but yea the way this coin trades is fucking annoying I hear ya.

YEAH AND NOW WHAT THE GUY THAT BOUGHT 68 BTC WORTH OF DARKCOIN IS GOING TO DUMP ON 0.0062?? AND EARN SOME MONEY AND THEN AGAIN THE SAME STORY??FUCK THIS SHIT IM SO TIRED AS SOON AS DARK REACH THE POINT THAT I BOUGHT WHICH IS 0.012 IM OUT AND IM GOING TO DUMP 20K OF DARK SO ANYONE INTERESTED ON THIS AMOUNT CAN FIND IT ON 0.012-0.013 RANGE.

[alex-ru]

People are selling Darkcoin is not a problem - it is normal.
The problem is that other people don't buy Darkcoin and it is real problem.
In fact most of people that could buy Darkcoin even don't know about this coin. Lack of marketing is so pity...

[oblox]

I DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS GOING ON WITH DARKCOIN .IM SO DISSAPOINTED ITS LIKE DARK BEING RAPED BY A BEARWHALE ..THE SELLING ITS GOING ON LIKE THERE IS NO TOMMOROW ..HOW CAN SOMEONE SELL ON SUCH A LOW PRICES..WHAT IS THIS FREAKY MANIPULATION THAT IS HAPPENING BEHIND DARKCOIN?? WHO IS TRYING TO KILL DARKCOIN?? IM SO CONCERNED ON THE WAY THE THINGS ARE WORKING FOR DARKCOIN RIGHT NOW..HOW CAN AN 68 BUY WALL GET FILLED IN SECONDS BY SOMEONE DUMPING ON 0.0056? THIS MEANS THAT ONLY PERSONS WHO GOT INTO DARKCOIN ON 0.0008-0.003 PRICES CAN DUMP AND PLAY SO HARD AND TRY TO KILL DARKCOIN..IT SEEMS THAT WE CANNOT FIND A STABILITY AND THEN RISE AGAIN...ONLY BAD BEARWHALE TRADERS FOR DARKCOIN..IM SO TIRED FOR THOSE AND I HOPE THAT I WILL SEE AGAIN DARK OVER 0.01 BUT I REALLY DOUBT IF THIS WILL HAPPEN AGAIN . EVAN IS TRYING TO DO A GOOD WORK HERE AND SOME IDIOTS TRYING TO HURT AND KILL THE COIN ..REVENGE ITS THE ONLY ANSWER AND I HOPE THIS WILL HAPPEN SOON!!

Yea I love and hate this coin but I'm tired of giving a shit about it. I'm just sitting on mine for a while to see what happens. If I gave a shit I'd get too pissed off, but yea the way this coin trades is fucking annoying I hear ya.

YEAH AND NOW WHAT THE GUY THAT BOUGHT 68 BTC WORTH OF DARKCOIN IS GOING TO DUMP ON 0.0062?? AND EARN SOME MONEY AND THEN AGAIN THE SAME STORY??FUCK THIS SHIT IM SO TIRED AS SOON AS DARK REACH THE POINT THAT I BOUGHT WHICH IS 0.012 IM OUT AND IM GOING TO DUMP 20K OF DARK SO ANYONE INTERESTED ON THIS AMOUNT CAN FIND IT ON 0.012-0.013 RANGE.

God you're a whiny little bitch.