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November 19, 2014, 10:06:58 PM
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Couple of issues with P2Pool.

--Memory Leak

The current p2pool software has a memory leak that uses all the available ram until it shuts down. It's an unfortunate pain.

--Hashrate

People go where the hashrate is. There used to be a p2pool.darkcointalk.org but the hashrate just became so miniscule that it had to be shut down. Even the main mpos pool http://mining.darkcointalk.org currently operating doesn't have a hashrate comparable to the top three pools. This is probably because of the misconception that a pool with a higher hashrate pays better when in fact, it pays exactly the same. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=13002.0 (If you do mine, consider mining occasionally on the DCT pool it pays for the forums)

--Dust Payments


When mining on a p2pool, you receive payments in very small inputs over the course of a day. Unlike a traditional pool when you can specify when to withdraw your coins or set up a predetermined withdrawal amount, you have no control over a p2pool payment. After a certain amount of transactions into the wallet, the QT wallet fails to function properly and becomes unusable. (possible bug with qt itself)

--P2pool is unusable for small miners

P2pool works by using a shared chain. It requires a higher hashrate than an MPOS or NOMP pool due to it needing to submit work faster than the latter. This disqualifies cpu miners from ever submitting valid shares in the time frame required of them.  The minimum hashrate for LTC's p2pool is roughly 10MH/s. Before ASIC's I believe it was around 2.5MH/s. Unfortunately, I don't have the information to determine the minimum hashrate needed for a Darkcoin p2pool. Vertoe asked on stackoverflow but the answer was awful. http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/24557/how-to-calculate-the-minum-recommended-hashrate-for-p2pool-network

So there definitely are some drawbacks to p2pool. I think it's a great concept but impractical.

Been running a p2pool node for about 6 months now on a VM with 2 gig of ram...  haven't noticed any memory leaks.  Hashrate = people are stupid.  Dust payments = Valid.  low hashrate = semi valid but you don't get the point... its not the speed you hash at its the volume of hashes you are completing...  I could theoretically cpu mine bitcoin itself and still find a block its the difficulty and the amount of hashes that has to be done to get a winner that actually counts.

I'd like to thank eduffield and the other developers for this critically important evolution in virtual currency. DarkCoin is what bitcoin should have been. Some might call it "Bitcoin 2.0" but would do better by saying: "DarkCoin is digital cash." - Child Harold - February 28, 2014
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg5424980#msg5424980
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November 19, 2014, 10:11:49 PM
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Couple of issues with P2Pool.

--Memory Leak

The current p2pool software has a memory leak that uses all the available ram until it shuts down. It's an unfortunate pain.

--Hashrate

People go where the hashrate is. There used to be a p2pool.darkcointalk.org but the hashrate just became so miniscule that it had to be shut down. Even the main mpos pool http://mining.darkcointalk.org currently operating doesn't have a hashrate comparable to the top three pools. This is probably because of the misconception that a pool with a higher hashrate pays better when in fact, it pays exactly the same. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=13002.0 (If you do mine, consider mining occasionally on the DCT pool it pays for the forums)

--Dust Payments


When mining on a p2pool, you receive payments in very small inputs over the course of a day. Unlike a traditional pool when you can specify when to withdraw your coins or set up a predetermined withdrawal amount, you have no control over a p2pool payment. After a certain amount of transactions into the wallet, the QT wallet fails to function properly and becomes unusable. (possible bug with qt itself)

--P2pool is unusable for small miners

P2pool works by using a shared chain. It requires a higher hashrate than an MPOS or NOMP pool due to it needing to submit work faster than the latter. This disqualifies cpu miners from ever submitting valid shares in the time frame required of them.  The minimum hashrate for LTC's p2pool is roughly 10MH/s. Before ASIC's I believe it was around 2.5MH/s. Unfortunately, I don't have the information to determine the minimum hashrate needed for a Darkcoin p2pool. Vertoe asked on stackoverflow but the answer was awful. http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/24557/how-to-calculate-the-minum-recommended-hashrate-for-p2pool-network

So there definitely are some drawbacks to p2pool. I think it's a great concept but impractical.

Been running a p2pool node for about 6 months now on a VM with 2 gig of ram...  haven't noticed any memory leaks.  Hashrate = people are stupid.  Dust payments = Valid.  low hashrate = semi valid but you don't get the point... its not the speed you hash at its the volume of hashes you are completing...  I could theoretically cpu mine bitcoin itself and still find a block its the difficulty and the amount of hashes that has to be done to get a winner that actually counts.


rrodent is there a guide on how to setup a p2pool node?

With the dust payments issue in a QT wallet, can you not (every so often) aggregate all the small payments into one address to prevent your wallet.dat from getting out of hand?

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November 19, 2014, 10:26:27 PM
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Yeah I had the problem with the QT wallet a couple weeks ago...  had to create a new wallet and transfer all the dust payments over to the new wallet address.  Importing the privkey doesn't work to clean it up but that was also with about 4 or 5 months worth of mining before I had any issues to speak of.

There is a decent guide on darkcointalk in the mining section from a couple months back I think.  I'll go take a quick look to see If I can find it.

I'd like to thank eduffield and the other developers for this critically important evolution in virtual currency. DarkCoin is what bitcoin should have been. Some might call it "Bitcoin 2.0" but would do better by saying: "DarkCoin is digital cash." - Child Harold - February 28, 2014
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg5424980#msg5424980
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November 19, 2014, 10:27:03 PM
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Couple of issues with P2Pool.

--Memory Leak

The current p2pool software has a memory leak that uses all the available ram until it shuts down. It's an unfortunate pain.

--Hashrate

People go where the hashrate is. There used to be a p2pool.darkcointalk.org but the hashrate just became so miniscule that it had to be shut down. Even the main mpos pool http://mining.darkcointalk.org currently operating doesn't have a hashrate comparable to the top three pools. This is probably because of the misconception that a pool with a higher hashrate pays better when in fact, it pays exactly the same. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=13002.0 (If you do mine, consider mining occasionally on the DCT pool it pays for the forums)

--Dust Payments


When mining on a p2pool, you receive payments in very small inputs over the course of a day. Unlike a traditional pool when you can specify when to withdraw your coins or set up a predetermined withdrawal amount, you have no control over a p2pool payment. After a certain amount of transactions into the wallet, the QT wallet fails to function properly and becomes unusable. (possible bug with qt itself)

--P2pool is unusable for small miners

P2pool works by using a shared chain. It requires a higher hashrate than an MPOS or NOMP pool due to it needing to submit work faster than the latter. This disqualifies cpu miners from ever submitting valid shares in the time frame required of them.  The minimum hashrate for LTC's p2pool is roughly 10MH/s. Before ASIC's I believe it was around 2.5MH/s. Unfortunately, I don't have the information to determine the minimum hashrate needed for a Darkcoin p2pool. Vertoe asked on stackoverflow but the answer was awful. http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/24557/how-to-calculate-the-minum-recommended-hashrate-for-p2pool-network

So there definitely are some drawbacks to p2pool. I think it's a great concept but impractical.

Been running a p2pool node for about 6 months now on a VM with 2 gig of ram...  haven't noticed any memory leaks.  Hashrate = people are stupid.  Dust payments = Valid.  low hashrate = semi valid but you don't get the point... its not the speed you hash at its the volume of hashes you are completing...  I could theoretically cpu mine bitcoin itself and still find a block its the difficulty and the amount of hashes that has to be done to get a winner that actually counts.


rrodent is there a guide on how to setup a p2pool node?

With the dust payments issue in a QT wallet, can you not (every so often) aggregate all the small payments into one address to prevent your wallet.dat from getting out of hand?

Do people even bother to read the previous posts ? posted a link to p2pool-drk like 4 pages back, that has a guide - https://bitbucket.org/dstorm/p2pool-drk.git

read https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=1930.0  and replace in the  litecoind with darkcoind while reading, just the daemon part. Then for p2pool read through the p2pool-drk setup how to.

1. get linux vm
2. make darkcoind run, wait till it syncs
3. follow https://bitbucket.org/dstorm/p2pool-drk.git

I am really considering to make a small vm that just runs, so anyone could have it up and running using vmware player, but I am so lazy Smiley
Is there even interest in something like that ?
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Cool thefrog pointed out the relevant resources for me Tongue

Other than the guide on https://bitbucket.org/dstorm/p2pool-drk.git isn't 100% correct...  the software runs on port 7903.  I think he was going to change it to those ports but then didn't or something like that.

I'd like to thank eduffield and the other developers for this critically important evolution in virtual currency. DarkCoin is what bitcoin should have been. Some might call it "Bitcoin 2.0" but would do better by saying: "DarkCoin is digital cash." - Child Harold - February 28, 2014
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg5424980#msg5424980
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November 19, 2014, 11:05:03 PM
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That's good info I wasnt aware DCT had pools. I've been looking for a better pool and I've tried p2pool couple of times but couldn't find a decent node near me. I've thought about setting one up but haven't gotten around to it.
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November 19, 2014, 11:26:58 PM
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BUILDING THE NEXT MASTERNODE


Right now I have......

1 person in for 300DRK
1 person in for 200DRK

Still need another 500DRK to get the next MN running.



If anybody is interested in MN Escrow services please send e-mail to : escrow@darkcoin.io

Feel free to ask any questions.


Thank you in advance
Mangled Blue

What's daily revenue?

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November 19, 2014, 11:30:50 PM
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BUILDING THE NEXT MASTERNODE


Right now I have......

1 person in for 300DRK
1 person in for 200DRK

Still need another 500DRK to get the next MN running.



If anybody is interested in MN Escrow services please send e-mail to : escrow@darkcoin.io

Feel free to ask any questions.


Thank you in advance
Mangled Blue

What's daily revenue?

~.35 DRK right now...but it depends on masternode count and payount %.

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November 19, 2014, 11:32:15 PM
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So less  Shocked

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November 19, 2014, 11:47:34 PM
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I was talking for 500DRK in my post above...

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November 19, 2014, 11:59:51 PM
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BUILDING THE NEXT MASTERNODE


Right now I have......

1 person in for 300DRK
1 person in for 200DRK

Still need another 500DRK to get the next MN running.



If anybody is interested in MN Escrow services please send e-mail to : escrow@darkcoin.io

Feel free to ask any questions.


Thank you in advance
Mangled Blue

What's daily revenue?


It does vary but I have been seeing 0.6 - 0.8 DRK daily


Payouts are at the end of every month
its like 5x 280x rig, i need DRK haha, im poor
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November 20, 2014, 12:06:41 AM
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The latest shift for the Darkcoin multipool paid out over 75 DRK.

This pool could use some more mining support, especially on the SHA256 & Scrypt side. X11 has been seeing more support lately but with the increased average DRK diff and lower block rewards for miners we could use another 4-500+Mh/s to stabilize the profitability.

Cheers!

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November 20, 2014, 12:20:50 AM
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That's good info I wasnt aware DCT had pools. I've been looking for a better pool and I've tried p2pool couple of times but couldn't find a decent node near me. I've thought about setting one up but haven't gotten around to it.

the DRK multipool needs more hash, feel free to drop by there. www.xpool.ca

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November 20, 2014, 12:32:50 AM
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Does anyone know when the November MN payment increase will occur to 25% or if this is already in affect, is it when it hits a certain block or a certain date?

Looking forward to Decembers 30% too Cheesy
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November 20, 2014, 12:45:22 AM
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Does anyone know when the November MN payment increase will occur to 25% or if this is already in affect, is it when it hits a certain block or a certain date?

Looking forward to Decembers 30% too Cheesy

23rd, roughly.

main.cpp, from line 1414ish:
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    if(nHeight > 158000)              ret += blockValue / 20;  //25.0%  - 2014-10-23 
    if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*1)) ret += blockValue / 20;  //30.0%  - 2014-11-23
    if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*2)) ret += blockValue / 20;  //35.0%  - 2014-12-23
    if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*3)) ret += blockValue / 40;  //37.5%  - 2015-01-23
    if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*4)) ret += blockValue / 40;  //40.0%  - 2015-02-23
    if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*5)) ret += blockValue / 40;  //42.5%  - 2015-03-23
    if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*6)) ret += blockValue / 40;  //45.0%  - 2015-04-23
    if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*7)) ret += blockValue / 40;  //47.5%  - 2015-05-23
    if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*9)) ret += blockValue / 40;  //50.0%  - 2015-07-23
    if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*11)) ret += blockValue / 40; //52.5%  - 2015-09-23
    if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*13)) ret += blockValue / 40; //55.0%  - 2015-11-23
    if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*15)) ret += blockValue / 40; //57.5%  - 2016-01-23
    if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*17)) ret += blockValue / 40; //60.0%  - 2016-03-23
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November 20, 2014, 12:53:16 AM
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Does anyone know when the November MN payment increase will occur to 25% or if this is already in affect, is it when it hits a certain block or a certain date?

Looking forward to Decembers 30% too Cheesy

23rd, roughly.

main.cpp, from line 1414ish:
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    if(nHeight > 158000)              ret += blockValue / 20;  //25.0%  - 2014-10-23 
    if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*1)) ret += blockValue / 20;  //30.0%  - 2014-11-23
    if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*2)) ret += blockValue / 20;  //35.0%  - 2014-12-23
    if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*3)) ret += blockValue / 40;  //37.5%  - 2015-01-23
    if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*4)) ret += blockValue / 40;  //40.0%  - 2015-02-23
    if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*5)) ret += blockValue / 40;  //42.5%  - 2015-03-23
    if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*6)) ret += blockValue / 40;  //45.0%  - 2015-04-23
    if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*7)) ret += blockValue / 40;  //47.5%  - 2015-05-23
    if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*9)) ret += blockValue / 40;  //50.0%  - 2015-07-23
    if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*11)) ret += blockValue / 40; //52.5%  - 2015-09-23
    if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*13)) ret += blockValue / 40; //55.0%  - 2015-11-23
    if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*15)) ret += blockValue / 40; //57.5%  - 2016-01-23
    if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*17)) ret += blockValue / 40; //60.0%  - 2016-03-23

Yep, dates are rough estimates, always go by blocks.
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Internet Gambling Ban: Bitcoin Boom or Bane?...>>
http://cointelegraph.com/news/112949/internet-gambling-ban-bitcoin-boom-or-bane

didn't camp had some ideas / contacts in the online gaming world !?
maybe now is the time to push DRK on them !!
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November 20, 2014, 02:45:12 AM
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K. Atlas mentions DRK at the Houston Bitcoin Conference !
(33 min up) ....>
https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/cgekvhcvjivabq6rkb33oc841dk
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November 20, 2014, 02:46:58 AM
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v0.10.16.16 is out! Everyone please update

- Found the issue causing "last darksend was too recent"

Mixing should be much faster now.

https://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/

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November 20, 2014, 03:41:50 AM
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K. Atlas mentions DRK at the Houston Bitcoin Conference !
(33 min up) ....>
https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/cgekvhcvjivabq6rkb33oc841dk
 Cool

There is a corresponding tweet by Kristov Atlas
https://twitter.com/anonymouscoin/status/535247030604816384

You know what to do Wink

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