[ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning

[thevictimofuktyranny]

I know many mining pools didn't bother

Which ones did and which ones didn't?

I'll do one piece of donkey work for you (joke intended), because you clearly don't want check yourself

https://www.f2pool.com/

ETH: 761 Ghash/s

They never posted any options to vote For or Against the Fork:

It is pay by share, so there is no way to register support, either way without two different stratum addresses.

Why would I need to work on finding proof for YOUR claims? You said you know "many" pools didn't bother to provide voting for their users. One is not "many". So what are the others?

PPS has nothing to do with it at all.

Since, you are going to be so rude, do you own donkey work mate!

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[tylerderden]

Hey mate, funny how you don't know shit mate. Mate how about read up ya parrot...mate lol!!!


Oh and yeah...we all own donkey work mate..you don't?  Mate?

[thevictimofuktyranny]

Hey mate, funny how you don't know shit mate. Mate how about read up ya parrot...mate lol!!!


Oh and yeah...we all own donkey work mate..you don't?  Mate?

Here is a page on Etherscan: on the Top Miners and Mining Pools:

https://etherscan.io/stats/miner?range=7&blocktype=blocks

The other Major Chinese mining pool didn't add a voting option as well:

https://eth.bw.com/pool/i

But, you can go through the rest yourself, donkey work ain't much fun you know

[tylerderden]

Hey mate, funny how you don't know shit mate. Mate how about read up ya parrot...mate lol!!!


Oh and yeah...we all own donkey work mate..you don't?  Mate?

Here is a page on Etherscan: on the Top Miners and Mining Pools:

https://etherscan.io/stats/miner?range=7&blocktype=blocks

The other Major Chinese mining pool didn't add a voting option as well:

https://eth.bw.com/pool/i

But, you can go through the rest yourself, donkey work ain't much fun you know

Yeah? That's what we got you for mate lol!!

[suchmoon]

Since, you are going to be so rude, do you own donkey work mate!

I didn't know it's considered rude to ask somebody on the forum to post what they claim to "know". But thank you for that etiquette lesson. In the future I'll make sure to assume that anything you may claim to "know" about Ethereum is worthless drivel and I won't bother your highness with any questions. Carry on.

[thevictimofuktyranny]

Since, you are going to be so rude, do you own donkey work mate!

I didn't know it's considered rude to ask somebody on the forum to post what they claim to "know". But thank you for that etiquette lesson. In the future I'll make sure to assume that anything you may claim to "know" about Ethereum is worthless drivel and I won't bother your highness with any questions. Carry on.

3rd pool, which didn't add a voting option was:

https://miningpoolhub.com/

Yawn, yawn, yawn

[thevictimofuktyranny]

Since, you are going to be so rude, do you own donkey work mate!

I didn't know it's considered rude to ask somebody on the forum to post what they claim to "know". But thank you for that etiquette lesson. In the future I'll make sure to assume that anything you may claim to "know" about Ethereum is worthless drivel and I won't bother your highness with any questions. Carry on.

Yawn, yawn, yawn:

https://dwarfpool.com

Had a voting sub-section in its' wallet payout address page, which had a default setting of Not Voted

https://ethermine.org

Had a voting sub-section on the 4th page for the payout wallet address, which had a default setting Not Voted

Clearly, most of the people mining at these pools choose not to change this setting of Not Voted!

Yawn, yawn, yawn.

[suchmoon]

Since, you are going to be so rude, do you own donkey work mate!

I didn't know it's considered rude to ask somebody on the forum to post what they claim to "know". But thank you for that etiquette lesson. In the future I'll make sure to assume that anything you may claim to "know" about Ethereum is worthless drivel and I won't bother your highness with any questions. Carry on.

Yawn, yawn, yawn:

https://dwarfpool.com

Had a voting sub-section in its' wallet payout address page, which had a default setting of Not Voted

https://ethermine.org

Had a voting sub-section on the 4th page for the payout wallet address, which had a default setting Not Voted

Clearly, most of the people mining at these pools choose not to change this setting of Not Voted!

Yawn, yawn, yawn.

What was the default in the brexit referendum?

Oh wait, I said no more questions. Sorry about that. Don't answer.

[thevictimofuktyranny]

In Reply

suchmoon

You are now, posting stuff on politics on crypto currency ANN.

What is up with you?

[roselee]

Since, you are going to be so rude, do you own donkey work mate!

I didn't know it's considered rude to ask somebody on the forum to post what they claim to "know". But thank you for that etiquette lesson. In the future I'll make sure to assume that anything you may claim to "know" about Ethereum is worthless drivel and I won't bother your highness with any questions. Carry on.

Yawn, yawn, yawn:

https://dwarfpool.com

Had a voting sub-section in its' wallet payout address page, which had a default setting of Not Voted

https://ethermine.org

Had a voting sub-section on the 4th page for the payout wallet address, which had a default setting Not Voted

Clearly, most of the people mining at these pools choose not to change this setting of Not Voted!

Yawn, yawn, yawn.

What was the default in the brexit referendum?

Oh wait, I said no more questions. Sorry about that. Don't answer.

i guess he/she gets payed to hide the truth.

here is something to read

alex van de sande finaly
did speak:

https://www.reddit.com/r/EthereumClassic/comments/4wnn3k/alex_van_de_sande_uavsa_and_the_rest_of_the_robin/

[suchmoon]

In Reply

suchmoon

You are now, posting stuff on politics on crypto currency ANN.

What is up with you?

Feel free to report my post. I was just trying to point out that you can't have a default option (other than "not voted") in a yes/no poll UNLESS you want to skew the result. You're grasping at straws my friend. Of course the turnout in the Ethereum fork vote was abysmal, everybody knows that. And the vote turned out to useless because the real decision on which fork to stay with was made simply by using one or the other version of software, which is how blockchain is supposed to work.

[thevictimofuktyranny]

In Reply

suchmoon

You are now, posting stuff on politics on crypto currency ANN.

What is up with you?

Feel free to report my post. I was just trying to point out that you can't have a default option (other than "not voted") in a yes/no poll UNLESS you want to skew the result. You're grasping at straws my friend. Of course the turnout in the Ethereum fork vote was abysmal, everybody knows that. And the vote turned out to useless because the real decision on which fork to stay with was made simply by using one or the other version of software, which is how blockchain is supposed to work.

There is something wrong with you?

This what the mining pools Dwarfpool and Ethermine setup for the Fork Vote, a default setting of Not Voted.

As Alex Van De Sande reddit annoucement makes clear, without the "White Hats" the thief would have taken all 12 million ETC coins in "The DAO" after the Fork.

[RastoMan]

In Reply

suchmoon

You are now, posting stuff on politics on crypto currency ANN.

What is up with you?

Feel free to report my post. I was just trying to point out that you can't have a default option (other than "not voted") in a yes/no poll UNLESS you want to skew the result. You're grasping at straws my friend. Of course the turnout in the Ethereum fork vote was abysmal, everybody knows that. And the vote turned out to useless because the real decision on which fork to stay with was made simply by using one or the other version of software, which is how blockchain is supposed to work.

There is something wrong with you?

This what the mining pools Dwarfpool and Ethermine setup for the Fork Vote, a default setting of Not Voted.

As Alex Van De Sande reddit annoucement makes clear, without the "White Hats" the thief would have taken all 12 million ETC coins in "The DAO" after the Fork.

Maybe the White hat will sell the ETC to the ETC community and donate the proceeds to the ETH developers.

[thevictimofuktyranny]

In Reply

suchmoon

You are now, posting stuff on politics on crypto currency ANN.

What is up with you?

Feel free to report my post. I was just trying to point out that you can't have a default option (other than "not voted") in a yes/no poll UNLESS you want to skew the result. You're grasping at straws my friend. Of course the turnout in the Ethereum fork vote was abysmal, everybody knows that. And the vote turned out to useless because the real decision on which fork to stay with was made simply by using one or the other version of software, which is how blockchain is supposed to work.

There is something wrong with you?

This what the mining pools Dwarfpool and Ethermine setup for the Fork Vote, a default setting of Not Voted.

As Alex Van De Sande reddit annoucement makes clear, without the "White Hats" the thief would have taken all 12 million ETC coins in "The DAO" after the Fork.

Maybe the White hat will sell the ETC to the ETC community and donate the proceeds to the ETH developers.

Alex Van De Sande has publicly announced, he has nothing to do with White Hats.

He simply made a loan of his Eth-DAO Tokens to halt the theft of ETC, post-Fork.

He said: he has no interest in getting any of the ETC they prevented from being stolen.

And said: he wants his ETH-The DAO tokens returned.

So, Alex Van De Sande thinks ETC is not worth having!

[becoin]

So, Alex Van De Sande thinks ETC is not worth having!

Please, tell Alex Van De Sande to send over to me those worthless ETHC!

[Mrpumperitis]

this week we cross 0.02 

[bitfish]

It Would not surprise me to see a lot of app developers switching to Lisk as an alternative.

Javascript is more widely known than solidity, and developers don't have to maintain their app on 2 different split chains.

Interesting to see how this unfolds when Lisk platform is ready to support app development in the near future.

Great idea...

 

[Herp]

What's your take on the Ethereum Zcash privacy add-on?

[Mrpumperitis]

What's your take on the Ethereum Zcash privacy add-on?

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/4wamhp/raiden_network_proof_of_concept_is_now_live_huge/?st=iripkdqx&sh=7e92a376
https://github.com/raiden-network/raiden/wiki/Raiden-PoC
http://raiden.network/    wow

Payment-Channel Network for Ethereum

Raiden is a technology that leverages off-chain state networks to extend Ethereum with some nice properties for asset transfers:

    Scalable: it scales linearly with the number of participants (1,000,000+ transfers per second possible) 
    Fast: Transfers are confirmed and final within the fraction of a second
   Confidential: Single transfers don’t show up in the global shared ledger
   Interoperable: Works with any token that follows Ethereum’s standardized token API
    Low Fees: Transaction fees can be 7 orders of magnitude lower than on the blockchain
    Micro-payments: Low transaction fees allow to efficiently transfer tiny values


The technology enabling this is similar to the proposed Bitcoin Lightning Network.
The basic idea is to switch from a model where all transactions hit the shared ledger on the blockchain (which is the bottleneck) to a model where users can privately exchange messages which sign the transfer of value.

Raiden uses a network of p2p payment channels and deposits in Ethereum to preserve the guarantees expected from a blockchain system.
Raiden is implemented as an extension to Ethereum. A Raiden node runs alongside an Ethereum node and communicates with other Raiden nodes to facilitate transfers and with the Ethereum blockchain to manage deposits. It offers a simple API which makes it easy to use Raiden in DApps.
Applications

    Micropayments for content distribution: Alternative to Paywalls, Ads and Subscriptions. (Figure a decentralized youtube where the creators of a video are paid for every second watched)
    Decentralized M2M markets: especially in IoT where tiny chunks of bandwidth, storage, cpu time, energy, sensor data, etc. can be traded.
    Frictionless Token Systems: Game Tokens, Reward Tokens, Private Currencies
    API Access: Accessing and monetizing APIs on a per use basis is at the core of the upcoming Machine-to-Machine economy
    Fast Decentralized Exchanges


Vitalik Buterin: “State channels are an important technology that has the potential to greatly improve the scalability and privacy of many categories of blockchain applications; in conjunction with sharding and other privacy-preserving cryptographic technologies, they are an important ingredient in helping decentralized systems to achieve the properties that mainstream individual and institutional users expect and deserve.”

  

Im sure pos also allows for Scalability and many more extra features that are not possible on pow.
Hawk and ZKsnarks are just two of many...
Cryptographic mixers - essentially, the ZK-SNARK verification enforces the rule that if you put one coin in you can take one coin and only one coin out, but the input-output mapping is completely hidden.
    Hawk - essentially, smart contracts with encrypted state, where the full power of the blockchain is still used to verify that state transitions are correct because anyone updating the state needs to include a ZK-SNARK proving that the change from the old encrypted state to the new encrypted state is a valid state transition (proving all of this without revealing what the decrypted old or new states, or the decrypted transaction data, is!).
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4v2ug3/zksnarks_zero_knowledge_proofs_now_possible_via/

Hawk: The Blockchain Model of Cryptography and
Privacy-Preserving Smart Contracts
https://eprint.iacr.org/2015/675.pdf

Raiden, Hawk and Zksnarks will become essential requirements for any crypto that intends to be used by big mainstream business and IOT ( which is the biggest use case for ETH imo )

[connexus]

Good to see the price of ETH going up again. You can't really keep a good coin down.