[ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning

[thevictimofuktyranny]

Crickets.....may as well get used to it, these geniuses have bigger problems now than rolling back bail outs lol!

What problems:

The next 2 Forks are on the schedule for the Ethereum Foundation:

1) Metropolis

and

2) Serenity

Therefore, whilst you lot moan and groan on this ANN about history, everyone else is continuing with Network development.

That is planned fork and is essential for the development of the Ethereum. I have no problem with that. Maybe the ETC will not fork.

Ethereum Foundation should make those Scheduled Forks difficult for Clone-Crap-Coins to implement

[tylerderden]

Crickets.....may as well get used to it, these geniuses have bigger problems now than rolling back bail outs lol!

What problems:

The next 2 Forks are on the schedule for the Ethereum Foundation:

1) Metropolis

and

2) Serenity

Therefore, whilst you lot moan and groan on this ANN about history, everyone else is continuing with Network development.

That is planned fork and is essential for the development of the Ethereum. I have no problem with that. Maybe the ETC will not fork.

Ethereum Foundation should make those Scheduled Forks difficult for Clone-Crap-Coins to implement

Don't know about those forks, gonna be tough after trying to sell stolen etc, I think they're gonna be busy for 10 to 20

[FruitBucket]

Crickets.....may as well get used to it, these geniuses have bigger problems now than rolling back bail outs lol!

What problems:

The next 2 Forks are on the schedule for the Ethereum Foundation:

1) Metropolis

and

2) Serenity

Therefore, whilst you lot moan and groan on this ANN about history, everyone else is continuing with Network development.

That is planned fork and is essential for the development of the Ethereum. I have no problem with that. Maybe the ETC will not fork.

Ethereum Foundation should make those Scheduled Forks difficult for Clone-Crap-Coins to implement

The ETC is independent now. So it shall not copy and past the codes from Ethereum. It might employ its own developers.

[becoin]

Crickets.....may as well get used to it, these geniuses have bigger problems now than rolling back bail outs lol!

What problems:

The next 2 Forks are on the schedule for the Ethereum Foundation:

1) Metropolis

and

2) Serenity

Therefore, whilst you lot moan and groan on this ANN about history, everyone else is continuing with Network development.

That is planned fork and is essential for the development of the Ethereum. I have no problem with that. Maybe the ETC will not fork.

Ethereum Foundation should make those Scheduled Forks difficult for Clone-Crap-Coins to implement

The ETC is independent now. So it shall not copy and past the codes from Ethereum. It might employ its own developers.

ETHC has always been independent and can do whatever is reasonable including copy and paste code from the cloned ETHF. The only thing ETHC will never do is bail out forks.

As already said now the bail out ETHF is a test net for ETHC.

[Bokelka]

Crickets.....may as well get used to it, these geniuses have bigger problems now than rolling back bail outs lol!

What problems:

The next 2 Forks are on the schedule for the Ethereum Foundation:

1) Metropolis

and

2) Serenity

Therefore, whilst you lot moan and groan on this ANN about history, everyone else is continuing with Network development.

That is planned fork and is essential for the development of the Ethereum. I have no problem with that. Maybe the ETC will not fork.

Ethereum Foundation should make those Scheduled Forks difficult for Clone-Crap-Coins to implement

The ETC is independent now. So it shall not copy and past the codes from Ethereum. It might employ its own developers.

ETHC has always been independent and can do whatever is reasonable including copy and paste code from the cloned ETHF. The only thing ETHC will never do is bail out forks.

As already said now the bail out ETHF is a test net for ETHC.

That means there is no need for the active developer/development for just the ETC. It can do copy and past.

[becoin]

Crickets.....may as well get used to it, these geniuses have bigger problems now than rolling back bail outs lol!

What problems:

The next 2 Forks are on the schedule for the Ethereum Foundation:

1) Metropolis

and

2) Serenity

Therefore, whilst you lot moan and groan on this ANN about history, everyone else is continuing with Network development.

That is planned fork and is essential for the development of the Ethereum. I have no problem with that. Maybe the ETC will not fork.

Ethereum Foundation should make those Scheduled Forks difficult for Clone-Crap-Coins to implement

The ETC is independent now. So it shall not copy and past the codes from Ethereum. It might employ its own developers.

ETHC has always been independent and can do whatever is reasonable including copy and paste code from the cloned ETHF. The only thing ETHC will never do is bail out forks.

As already said now the bail out ETHF is a test net for ETHC.

That means there is no need for the active developer/development for just the ETC. It can do copy and past.

How many times shall I explain what does it mean for users and developers?

The essential problem is that unless you own DAO tokens, you have no reason to choose Ethereum over Ethereum Classic. They are basically the same thing with different recorded versions of history. The entire thing is open source, so if the Ethereum developers come out with new features, Ethereum classic will adopt them almost immediately (unless they’re similarly controversial). Any Ethereum developer with DAO tokens now works against himself.

[frostminer]

Crickets.....may as well get used to it, these geniuses have bigger problems now than rolling back bail outs lol!

What problems:

The next 2 Forks are on the schedule for the Ethereum Foundation:

1) Metropolis

and

2) Serenity

Therefore, whilst you lot moan and groan on this ANN about history, everyone else is continuing with Network development.

That is planned fork and is essential for the development of the Ethereum. I have no problem with that. Maybe the ETC will not fork.

Ethereum Foundation should make those Scheduled Forks difficult for Clone-Crap-Coins to implement

The ETC is independent now. So it shall not copy and past the codes from Ethereum. It might employ its own developers.

ETHC has always been independent and can do whatever is reasonable including copy and paste code from the cloned ETHF. The only thing ETHC will never do is bail out forks.

As already said now the bail out ETHF is a test net for ETHC.

That means there is no need for the active developer/development for just the ETC. It can do copy and past.

How many times shall I explain what does it mean for users and developers?

The essential problem is that unless you own DAO tokens, you have no reason to choose Ethereum over Ethereum Classic. They are basically the same thing with different recorded versions of history. The entire thing is open source, so if the Ethereum developers come out with new features, Ethereum classic will adopt them almost immediately (unless they’re similarly controversial). Any Ethereum developer with DAO tokens now works against himself.

"how many times do we have to tell you, NO ITS NOT!"

[d57heinz]

Heres a bit of info for you guys and gals .  https://archive.litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=26930.msg280015#msg280015

then there is this.    https://asicminermarket.com/

Dagger hashimoto asics are in the wild.  Since this algo wont disappear with pos on eth then we will soon see these asics once the manufacturers have the next step in efficiency and they can always be one step ahead of us.  See how this all works ...  rinse repeat.  Makes me wonder if the manufacturers of this equip arent the ones behind all this crypto stuff lol.. Sure could make a person rich if they always had the next step ahead of the public.  


and dont miss this comment  https://archive.litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=26930.msg280038#msg280038

"ASICs and FPGAs is be strongly discouraged by being rendered financially inefficient, which was confirmed in an independent audit. Don't expect to see them on the market, and if you do, proceed with extreme caution.
"
sounds like a challenge..."

Remember folks audits dont catch everything

Best Regards
d57heinz

[thevictimofuktyranny]

Heres a bit of info for you guys and gals .  https://archive.litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=26930.msg280015#msg280015

then there is this.    https://asicminermarket.com/

Dagger hashimoto asics are in the wild.  Since this algo wont disappear with pos on eth then we will soon see these asics once the manufacturers have the next step in efficiency and they can always be one step ahead of us.  See how this all works ...  rinse repeat.  Makes me wonder if the manufacturers of this equip arent the ones behind all this crypto stuff lol.. Sure could make a person rich if they always had the next step ahead of the public.  


and dont miss this comment  https://archive.litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=26930.msg280038#msg280038

"ASICs and FPGAs is be strongly discouraged by being rendered financially inefficient, which was confirmed in an independent audit. Don't expect to see them on the market, and if you do, proceed with extreme caution.
"
sounds like a challenge..."

Remember folks audits dont catch everything

Best Regards
d57heinz

Yelp, ETC may just be marketing ploy for selling a whole bunch of ASIC mining hardware.

Which, will be owned by a couple hundred people, who then hope to dupe GPU owners into making them rich, whilst their ASICs pump cheapo clone-coins out for next few years!

[d57heinz]

Heres a bit of info for you guys and gals .  https://archive.litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=26930.msg280015#msg280015

then there is this.    https://asicminermarket.com/

Dagger hashimoto asics are in the wild.  Since this algo wont disappear with pos on eth then we will soon see these asics once the manufacturers have the next step in efficiency and they can always be one step ahead of us.  See how this all works ...  rinse repeat.  Makes me wonder if the manufacturers of this equip arent the ones behind all this crypto stuff lol.. Sure could make a person rich if they always had the next step ahead of the public.  


and dont miss this comment  https://archive.litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=26930.msg280038#msg280038

"ASICs and FPGAs is be strongly discouraged by being rendered financially inefficient, which was confirmed in an independent audit. Don't expect to see them on the market, and if you do, proceed with extreme caution.
"
sounds like a challenge..."

Remember folks audits dont catch everything

Best Regards
d57heinz

Yelp, ETC may just be marketing ploy for selling a whole bunch of ASIC mining hardware.

Which, will be owned by a couple hundred people, who then hope to dupe GPU owners into making them rich, whilst their ASICs pump cheapo clone-coins out for next few years!

+1..  Your exactly right and i suppose they will get awefully quiet now.   theres damn good reason to make pos work and this is it right here.  if a gpu can mine the coin then an asic can be made. 

edit one more comment to add in case some dont read that whole thread on litecoin talk.   https://archive.litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=26930.msg280049#msg280049

Best Regards
d57heinz

[d57heinz]

https://archive.litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=26930.msg280058#msg280058

"This project is everything miners and PoW maximalists hate about crypto.  But the point here isn't to create value but to facilitate it moving around.  From what I can tell the ethereum project can be 100% successful never changing from $.30 per ether. 

If it just works for being a very robust smart contracts touring crypto that can actually MAKE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES (Something litecoin and bitcoin can't / won't / aren't doing) that support massive amounts of decentralized transactions and starts practically moving stuff like Uber / Ebay / IoT / Prediction Markets / Decentralized Exchanges towards the blockchain it will be a massive success.  It can easily use bitcoin or any other altcoin for it's store of value."

This explains some of the hate towards eth and the love of etc trying to destroy eth credibility.  For this reason above.  they are threatened.      Once the 100k tps limit is achieved there will be no looking back!  Hell at this point i would be impressed with 1/100 of the planned 100k tps!


best regards
d57heinz

[becoin]

This explains some of the hate towards eth and the love of etc trying to destroy eth credibility. 

ETHF destroys ETHC credibility.

[d57heinz]

This explains some of the hate towards eth and the love of etc trying to destroy eth credibility.  

ETHF destroys ETHC credibility.

Your hacker and the support of him destroys ethc cred if that is your mindset.

Like with any project when you try something and it fails you move forward.  Your chain supports none of that.  You dont keep doing the same thing over expecting different results.  Thats the definition of insanity.

Best Regards
d57heinz

[iCEBREAKER]

Crickets.....may as well get used to it, these geniuses have bigger problems now than rolling back bail outs lol!

First, the Foundation shot themselves in the head with the bailout fork, creating a useless brain-dead chain in a persistent vegetative state.

Then, by using other people's rescued stolen ETC to manipulate markets, they emptied the rest of the clip into their collective foot.

And now, thanks to the EF's trademark overweening hubris, the victims of that scheming are suing their ass off.  

[thevictimofuktyranny]

Let's get this straight:

People who bought "The DAO" tokens own lot's of Ethereum, in fact they probably own up to 50% of the Networks Ethereum.

Secondly, all GPU miners require the buy support of "The DAO" token holders on the exchanges.

Therefore, when the "The DAO" got a SUPER-HACKED and those people were getting stolen from, it had to be fixed in their favour!

To protect Ethereum's "Buy Support" on exchanges, the Fork was a necessity.

As for the couple of hundred people with ASIC hardware or expecting delivery ASIC hardware or with FGPA's, they simply explioted the Super-Hack to make a clone-coin to sell cheapo coins for the next few years:

Constantly, reminding "The DAO" owners, that the couple of hundred people behind ETC would happily chuck "The DAO" owners under Bus ain't going work!

[roselee]

Let's get this straight:

People who bought "The DAO" tokens own lot's of Ethereum, in fact they probably own up to 50% of the Networks Ethereum.

Secondly, all GPU miners require the buy support of "The DAO" token holders on the exchanges.

Therefore, when the "The DAO" got a SUPER-HACKED and those people were getting stolen from, it had to be fixed in their favour!

To protect Ethereum's "Buy Support" on exchanges, the Fork was a necessity.

As for the couple of hundred people with ASIC hardware or expecting delivery ASIC hardware or with FGPA's, they simply explioted the Super-Hack to make a clone-coin to sell cheapo coins for the next few years:

Constantly, reminding "The DAO" owners, that the couple of hundred people behind ETC would happily chuck "The DAO" owners under Bus ain't going work!

same did stalin hitler and the other tyrans  say

your bs is priceless

[suchmoon]

Heres a bit of info for you guys and gals .  https://archive.litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=26930.msg280015#msg280015

then there is this.    https://asicminermarket.com/

Dagger hashimoto asics are in the wild.  Since this algo wont disappear with pos on eth then we will soon see these asics once the manufacturers have the next step in efficiency and they can always be one step ahead of us.  See how this all works ...  rinse repeat.  Makes me wonder if the manufacturers of this equip arent the ones behind all this crypto stuff lol.. Sure could make a person rich if they always had the next step ahead of the public.  


and dont miss this comment  https://archive.litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=26930.msg280038#msg280038

"ASICs and FPGAs is be strongly discouraged by being rendered financially inefficient, which was confirmed in an independent audit. Don't expect to see them on the market, and if you do, proceed with extreme caution.
"
sounds like a challenge..."

Remember folks audits dont catch everything

Best Regards
d57heinz

You are linking to a thread discussing LTCGear scam to prove the conspiracy theory that that fork was somehow orchestrated by ASIC miners or manufacturers?

Let me help you, a couple more scammy ASIC links:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1453452.0
https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/8503/ethereum-asic-miner-rocketminer-scam

Just google "ASIC Ethereum" for more.

It's on the internet so it's 100% true.

[tylerderden]

Heres a bit of info for you guys and gals .  https://archive.litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=26930.msg280015#msg280015

then there is this.    https://asicminermarket.com/

Dagger hashimoto asics are in the wild.  Since this algo wont disappear with pos on eth then we will soon see these asics once the manufacturers have the next step in efficiency and they can always be one step ahead of us.  See how this all works ...  rinse repeat.  Makes me wonder if the manufacturers of this equip arent the ones behind all this crypto stuff lol.. Sure could make a person rich if they always had the next step ahead of the public.  


and dont miss this comment  https://archive.litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=26930.msg280038#msg280038

"ASICs and FPGAs is be strongly discouraged by being rendered financially inefficient, which was confirmed in an independent audit. Don't expect to see them on the market, and if you do, proceed with extreme caution.
"
sounds like a challenge..."

Remember folks audits dont catch everything

Best Regards
d57heinz

Yelp, ETC may just be marketing ploy for selling a whole bunch of ASIC mining hardware.

Which, will be owned by a couple hundred people, who then hope to dupe GPU owners into making them rich, whilst their ASICs pump cheapo clone-coins out for next few years!

Dude seriously your one of the craziest bastards I've seen on here lol, and that's saying something haha!

[tylerderden]

This explains some of the hate towards eth and the love of etc trying to destroy eth credibility.  

ETHF destroys ETHC credibility.

Your hacker and the support of him destroys ethc cred if that is your mindset.

Like with any project when you try something and it fails you move forward.  Your chain supports none of that.  You dont keep doing the same thing over expecting different results.  Thats the definition of insanity.

Best Regards
d57heinz

Oh you mean the eth hacker that people warned them about ahead of time with the flaw in the code? Push it anyway they say...now that is the definition of insanity. Talk all the shit you feel you need to, I love these situations...you gotta spin things make shit up whatever...all we have to do is tell the truth because that's enough...."white hat" "Robin hood" Fuckers caught trying to sell off coins they don't own lol! Yeah man keep backing that shit, obviously a smart and trustworthy group. Are they trying to beat the record of scammiest thing in crypto since Keycoin or what lol!!!!

[tylerderden]

Just gonna leave this here, feel free to roll it on back...

http://cointimes.tech/2016/08/13/ethereum-reputation-has-been-damaged-with-the-finance-and-banking-community/