Acorn M.2 FPGA based GPU Accelerator

[vapourminer]

Do You think that we are going to see the miner done ?

personally i think yes, im sure the official gpu miner assist miner will come out. the sqrl company seems pretty solid. but thats just my opinion.

When I was given the chance to be refunded last month I took the refund.

I was afraid of no software support.

Sad so sad.

good call IMO. at this point i would advise folks to wait until the official miner software is in the wild. just to see real world gpu assist numbers and such. i believe acorns and nests are pretty much an off the shelf item now anyway. so as soon as the software is out and verified by regular folks you could order.

Someone airing out the Mineority dirty laundry

https://old.reddit.com/r/gpumining/comments/a27lhb/so_ohgodagirl_and_the_mineority_group_is_failing/

More will come to light as time passes.  Truth always prevails.  This was an exit dump onto consumers.

be prepared for a LOT of reading spread over several discords. the various discords seem to have all the raw, unfiltered dirt.

i have my own opinions of course but they are just that, opinions.

[64dimensions]

Questions:

Acorn nest X4.

On the SQRL website, it mentions that the X4 includes: "... an onboard DMA engine to reduce CPU load..."

a) Does the X4 need external software or a driver to utilize this capability?

b) It also looks like the X2G has the same chip. Does the X2G also have "... an onboard DMA engine to reduce CPU load..." ?

TIA

[Hueristic]

Someone airing out the Mineority dirty laundry

https://old.reddit.com/r/gpumining/comments/a27lhb/so_ohgodagirl_and_the_mineority_group_is_failing/

Looks like quite the shitshow going on.

[gsrcrxsi314]

Someone airing out the Mineority dirty laundry

https://old.reddit.com/r/gpumining/comments/a27lhb/so_ohgodagirl_and_the_mineority_group_is_failing/

tl;dr?

i cant open any of the attachments because i'm not a member of that forum.

[d57heinz]

Do You think that we are going to see the miner done ?

When I was given the chance to be refunded last month I took the refund.

I was afraid of no software support.



Sad so sad.

I'm not too worries honestly, I had some emails back and forth trying to get a review unit. I talked to one of the devs and he seemed to be ontop of his shit, they are super busy getting these orders out which I just went ahead and bought. (215+) fpga are definitely the future and I'd SQRL can't get a software solution out someone else will and charge for it since the hardware is out.

They don’t get off that easy.  This was sold as an all in one solution. Yes software has to be included. I know as long as you get your money screw the ethics of it all right?  Keep allowing shady business practices and all this will ever be is a shady financial scheme. Which is still up in the air with me.  I have some issue with the design of pow that can’t be addressed and never will.  There will always be a “war” over who has control over the blockchain. Yayyy man finding another way to help his undoing.  When will one learn from past mistakes!

[highaltitude]

Anyone know if there is a way to adjust the fan on the acorns? They seem to run loud when not in use.

[R0land]

Which FPGA models are the Acorns ?

[cudapop]

Which FPGA models are the Acorns ?

Xilinx Artix-7 series: XC7A100T in "CLE-101" acorn, XC7A200T in "CLE-215" acorn.

The number following the "CLE-" corresponds to the no. of logic cells in the Artix-7, ie. 101,440 cells in the CLE-101, 215,360 cells in the CLE-215.

[philipma1957]

Do You think that we are going to see the miner done ?

When I was given the chance to be refunded last month I took the refund.

I was afraid of no software support.



Sad so sad.

I'm not too worries honestly, I had some emails back and forth trying to get a review unit. I talked to one of the devs and he seemed to be ontop of his shit, they are super busy getting these orders out which I just went ahead and bought. (215+) fpga are definitely the future and I'd SQRL can't get a software solution out someone else will and charge for it since the hardware is out.

They don’t get off that easy.  This was sold as an all in one solution. Yes software has to be included. I know as long as you get your money screw the ethics of it all right?  Keep allowing shady business practices and all this will ever be is a shady financial scheme. Which is still up in the air with me.  I have some issue with the design of pow that can’t be addressed and never will.  There will always be a “war” over who has control over the blockchain. Yayyy man finding another way to help his undoing.  When will one learn from past mistakes!

I'm not saying they shouldn't release a software solution like promised what I am saying is the nature of FPGA especially in the mining world will be if there is a group of users with the exact same hardware and pinout it wouldn't make sense to not build software for it.

If enough acorns are sold  someone will make software with a fee for sure.

[philipma1957]

Do You think that we are going to see the miner done ?

When I was given the chance to be refunded last month I took the refund.

I was afraid of no software support.



Sad so sad.

I'm not too worries honestly, I had some emails back and forth trying to get a review unit. I talked to one of the devs and he seemed to be ontop of his shit, they are super busy getting these orders out which I just went ahead and bought. (215+) fpga are definitely the future and I'd SQRL can't get a software solution out someone else will and charge for it since the hardware is out.

They don’t get off that easy.  This was sold as an all in one solution. Yes software has to be included. I know as long as you get your money screw the ethics of it all right?  Keep allowing shady business practices and all this will ever be is a shady financial scheme. Which is still up in the air with me.  I have some issue with the design of pow that can’t be addressed and never will.  There will always be a “war” over who has control over the blockchain. Yayyy man finding another way to help his undoing.  When will one learn from past mistakes!

I'm not saying they shouldn't release a software solution like promised what I am saying is the nature of FPGA especially in the mining world will be if there is a group of users with the exact same hardware and pinout it wouldn't make sense to not build software for it.

If enough acorns are sold  someone will make software with a fee for sure.

That's why I'm not too worried about this being hardware without a use. The hardware is flowing (I ordered Sunday and it arrives tomorrow) I can tell you I'm around order 4200 so there are plenty of these going out in the wild. Worst case scenario is SQRL flops and we have to get our fpga from somewhere else but I'm not expecting SQRL to flop.

 worst case is they work great and market floods with them.

Thus killing off most profits of most gpus.

[Iomgui]

Guys i didnt follow on discord, do you mean SQRL has quitted the goal of programming a miner to use with their fpga ?

[vapourminer]

Guys i didnt follow on discord, do you mean SQRL has quitted the goal of programming a miner to use with their fpga ?

no they havent. sqrl is still committed to releasing their gpu accelerated miner, and personally im sure they will fairly soon, my guess is within a couple weeks but again thats purely my guess.

just some drama going on because mineority shut down rather suddenly. sqrl is not mineority.

[Iomgui]

Guys i didnt follow on discord, do you mean SQRL has quitted the goal of programming a miner to use with their fpga ?

no they havent. sqrl is still committed to releasing their gpu accelerated miner, and personally im sure they will fairly soon, my guess is within a couple weeks but again thats purely my guess.

just some drama going on because mineority shut down rather suddenly. sqrl is not mineority.

Thanks for your answer, i didnt had the time to follow on discord. I think too that sqrl has every Reason to be committed as long as their hardware is not vaporware. The market potential is huge if they achieve their goal (i know that in terms of Hashpower, it would be generally cheaper to buy new GPU to achieve same hahsrate, but in terms of powersavings, Acorn wins in the long run)

[mfurman]

Do You think that we are going to see the miner done ?

When I was given the chance to be refunded last month I took the refund.

I was afraid of no software support.



Sad so sad.

You said word for word what I did and thought/think

[mfurman]

Do You think that we are going to see the miner done ?

When I was given the chance to be refunded last month I took the refund.

I was afraid of no software support.



Sad so sad.

You said word for word what I did and thought/think

I think that was foolish, especially at the acorns low price. The I understand the $5000+ ones but those are more general bitstreams. The early bird gets the worm in the world of mining and Philip knows this, a few hundred is a low risk for an fpga that can easily be reprogramed to new algorithms.

Acorn does not "have a low price". It is currently at least 50% more expensive than RX580 and will not earn more (even with the low power usage) than this GPU. GPUs can be sold and I have my doubts about Acorn. I am done with GPU mining and mentally out of mining all together. I do not believe in this illusive big rebound of crypto. There will be more and more POS coins and centralization will creep in.

[mfurman]

Do You think that we are going to see the miner done ?

When I was given the chance to be refunded last month I took the refund.

I was afraid of no software support.



Sad so sad.

You said word for word what I did and thought/think

I think that was foolish, especially at the acorns low price. The I understand the $5000+ ones but those are more general bitstreams. The early bird gets the worm in the world of mining and Philip knows this, a few hundred is a low risk for an fpga that can easily be reprogrammed to new algorithms.

Acorn does not "have a low price". It is currently at least 50% more expensive than RX580 and will not earn more (even with the low power usage) than this GPU. GPUs can be sold and I have my doubts about Acorn. I am done with GPU mining and mentally out of mining all together. I do not believe in this illusive big rebound of crypto. There will be more and POS coins and centralization will creep in.

You have obviously not been into buying mining gear for a long enough time. I remember the big first Asics costing ~3500 and at the time that was 70 bitcoins. Scrypt Titans were $10k a pop. We aren't talking cheap GPUs, this is fucking cheap when it's new to mining. The fpga cards are $5000 and that's still not bad at all because the way they will hold their value and can go for any algorithm with the correct bitstream. Just because you aren't used to high price mining means nothing.

You are also comparing a single alpha bitstream by a Random user to a fully developed and optimized GPU. That's just faulty logic, solo mining isn't even the main reason for this being made.

Your vast experience aside, what is the main benefit of Acorn, in your mind? I mean gains of course. Is there even a concept of ROI for Acorn or ROI is only for newbies?
I do not think that any one who is mining at home can even remotely consider paying the prices, you mentioned when current high cost of electricity and pessimism of the market are taken into account. Keep in mind the price of Z9 mini when it was release - this, together with its gains in Summer, is a reference point for many (regardless if you consider it to be unreasonable or not)

[androstan1234]

It's pretty clear from the descriptions of the product that its primary use is to boost gpus, not standalone mining. I'm sure standalone mining will be one application, but it was designed as an adjunct to gpus in order to handle compute-heavy work at much lower power usage. So the overall effect is generally an improved hash/watt. I do wish we had real benchmarks.

[mfurman]

Do You think that we are going to see the miner done ?

When I was given the chance to be refunded last month I took the refund.

I was afraid of no software support.



Sad so sad.

You said word for word what I did and thought/think

I think that was foolish, especially at the acorns low price. The I understand the $5000+ ones but those are more general bitstreams. The early bird gets the worm in the world of mining and Philip knows this, a few hundred is a low risk for an fpga that can easily be reprogramed to new algorithms.

Acorn does not "have a low price". It is currently at least 50% more expensive than RX580 and will not earn more (even with the low power usage) than this GPU. GPUs can be sold and I have my doubts about Acorn. I am done with GPU mining and mentally out of mining all together. I do not believe in this illusive big rebound of crypto. There will be more and POS coins and centralization will creep in.

You have obviously not been into buying mining gear for a long enough time. I remember the big first Asics costing ~3500 and at the time that was 70 bitcoins. Scrypt Titans were $10k a pop. We aren't talking cheap GPUs, this is fucking cheap when it's new to mining. The fpga cards are $5000 and that's still not bad at all because the way they will hold their value and can go for any algorithm with the correct bitstream. Just because you aren't used to high price mining means nothing.

You are also comparing a single alpha bitstream by a Random user to a fully developed and optimized GPU. That's just faulty logic, solo mining isn't even the main reason for this being made.

Your vast experience aside, what is the main benefit of Acorn, in your mind? I mean gains of course. Is there even a concept of ROI for Acorn or ROI is only for newbies?

The main benefit is to lower the electricity use which is as we all know the biggest thing against roi (if you had free power you'd be mining on wildly inefficient miners) it also increases hashrate which might (MIGHT) allow you to stay profitable in the upcoming era of FPGA miners all over the main algorithms. This means those who don't use fpga or fpga optimized GPU will be all pushed to unprofitability and have to mine GPU only algorithms which will be crowded with other unoptimized GPU farms, meaning more difficulty and lower profitability.

To hedge against this a few hundred dollars isn't bad even for a handful, if this goes great the supply won't be there. The issue on Chinese clones (which will appear if  this works well) will be incompatible bitstreams meaning first mover Advantage is huge.

Perhaps you should look at what GPUHoarder was saying on sqrl-acorn Discord starting at 6:52 pm on Dec 4 (today)

[abstractHaze]

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Perhaps you should look at what GPUHoarder was saying on sqrl-acorn Discord starting at 6:52 pm on Dec 4 (today)
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yeah this shit again. ctrl c / ctrl v

[mfurman]

Well, this is a forum for GPUHoarder's Acorn (not any FPGA) so what he plans to do is relevant.