RiceMiner69
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December 10, 2018, 03:51:47 AM |
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This is even worse than a Kickstarter campaign.... At least with Kickstarter, they actually check to see if you have a working prototype....
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philipma1957
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December 10, 2018, 03:53:40 AM |
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This is even worse than a Kickstarter campaign.... At least with Kickstarter, they actually check to see if you have a working prototype....
Which if you read my post I was asking for one. Getting insulted time and time again just for asking for one demo.
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ZedZedNova
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December 10, 2018, 04:05:07 AM |
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Either prove it can do what it originally was sold to do or start issuing refunds.
How much skin do you have in this game? Did you purchase Acorns or Nest cards? I have skin in the game and so do others here. Phil had skin in the game, requested a refund for the gear he ordered, and received it a while ago. Maybe not as fast as he would have liked, but he did receive a refund. Many others have done the same for Acorns, Nests, and BCUs. If you want a refund I'll bet that if you contacted SQRL support they'd refund your money. I opted to stick it out for basically the same reasons as vapourminer. I went in with my eyes wide open knowing that there were likely to be some hiccups along the way. That's almost always the case with pre-order hardware and software to power it. I'll take my lumps and bumps and see where things go when the bear market reverses Soon(TM). where is that bull? Waiting in the wings. I hope...
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RiceMiner69
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December 11, 2018, 02:31:26 AM |
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mfurman
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December 11, 2018, 02:59:42 AM |
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I completely agree with what philipma1957 said. I also took a refund. I can only say that I was almost crucified on GPUHoarder Discord (by all the people posting) when I kept asking to see SQRL Miner and test it before Acorn was released.
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RiceMiner69
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December 11, 2018, 03:04:40 AM |
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Hahah, I was almost crucified also for asking the same thing.
I think all those who got their Acorns have been using them as standalone miners to mine Zen Protocol coins.....Good luck with that..
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mfurman
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December 11, 2018, 03:12:06 AM |
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LOL
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December 11, 2018, 03:17:00 AM |
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..... All I keep hearing is that it will come out soon.....
Two weeks TM
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RiceMiner69
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December 11, 2018, 03:36:14 AM |
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..... All I keep hearing is that it will come out soon.....
Two weeks TMThe check is in the mail.....
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vapourminer
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
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December 11, 2018, 12:48:03 PM Last edit: December 11, 2018, 01:00:51 PM by vapourminer |
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The check is in the mail.....
hey! im making ~40 cents USD a day on my acorns mining ZP - so in a mere 6.5 years ill hit ROI and be rolling in da moneyz actually i would need to find an exchange that lists it and that i can use 1st.. hell i dont even know what this shitcoin im mining is. anyway. those who bought and kept them knew the risk when we rolled the dice. and the dice are still rolling. software will come out. as for roi, if i lose 99% of what i put in, oh well. it was an amount i was willing to lose. annoying for sure, but nothing to lose sleep over. that said, i too sure hope sqrl come up with some serious bitstreams and software soon. this wait is getting monotonous.
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ZedZedNova
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December 11, 2018, 05:06:14 PM |
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I completely agree with what philipma1957 said. I also took a refund. I can only say that I was almost crucified on GPUHoarder Discord (by all the people posting) when I kept asking to see SQRL Miner and test it before Acorn was released.
You were "almost crucified" not because you asked, but because you never stopped asking at least daily, along with a dozen (or more) others, sometimes only a few messages above yours. Then you kept asking after you requested and received a refund. After a while it gets old.
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mfurman
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December 11, 2018, 05:41:44 PM Last edit: December 11, 2018, 06:33:49 PM by mfurman |
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I completely agree with what philipma1957 said. I also took a refund. I can only say that I was almost crucified on GPUHoarder Discord (by all the people posting) when I kept asking to see SQRL Miner and test it before Acorn was released.
You were "almost crucified" not because you asked, but because you never stopped asking at least daily, along with a dozen (or more) others, sometimes only a few messages above yours. Then you kept asking after you requested and received a refund. After a while it gets old. Perhaps if others insisted to see SQRL miner and it had been released, we would have known earlier about the problems. It is still not out. I am surprised that you think that it is normal. On another note (although related), have you seen this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNy5Ta5ccNg&t=1s
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vapourminer
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
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December 11, 2018, 06:33:50 PM |
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those who bought and kept them knew the risk when we rolled the dice. and the dice are still rolling. software will come out. as for roi, if i lose 99% of what i put in, oh well. it was an amount i was willing to lose. annoying for sure, but nothing to lose sleep over.
Definitely agree it's a bet to have the ultimate hedge, and at even $~$300 it was a cheap bet. It's at minimum a great tool to learn as we all can see the writing on the wall, fpga is the future of most mining. If this just teaches me how to load bitstreams and configure them I much rather do it on $300 hardware before I do it on $5000+ hardware. agreed. i think fpga, with or without gpu assist, is minings future, and fpga are different beasts with different rig requirements. and if/when the next bear run occurs, those that understand how the tech runs will be ahead. $300 for an acorn to get in the game now and start learning is a no brainer to me. last bull run gpus were almost impossible to get. and thats with nvidia and amd shoveling them out the door as fast as they could. if this happens again.. well there are a lot less fpgas to be had than there were gpus. having a few fpgas and knowing their limitations, strengths and needs will make a big difference. try building a good fpga or fpga boosted gpu based system without knowing what they need or how they function.. have fun. sure guides for noobs will come out but too late for many.
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December 11, 2018, 07:18:55 PM |
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those who bought and kept them knew the risk when we rolled the dice. and the dice are still rolling. software will come out. as for roi, if i lose 99% of what i put in, oh well. it was an amount i was willing to lose. annoying for sure, but nothing to lose sleep over.
Definitely agree it's a bet to have the ultimate hedge, and at even $~$300 it was a cheap bet. It's at minimum a great tool to learn as we all can see the writing on the wall, fpga is the future of most mining. If this just teaches me how to load bitstreams and configure them I much rather do it on $300 hardware before I do it on $5000+ hardware. agreed. i think fpga, with or without gpu assist, is minings future, and fpga are different beasts with different rig requirements. and if/when the next bear run occurs, those that understand how the tech runs will be ahead. $300 for an acorn to get in the game now and start learning is a no brainer to me. last bull run gpus were almost impossible to get. and thats with nvidia and amd shoveling them out the door as fast as they could. if this happens again.. well there are a lot less fpgas to be had than there were gpus. having a few fpgas and knowing their limitations, strengths and needs will make a big difference. try building a good fpga or fpga boosted gpu based system without knowing what they need or how they function.. have fun. sure guides for noobs will come out but too late for many. Ya but what about the fact that most coin dev's are doing what they can to keep asic and fpga's off their chain fpga's will never be a decentralized miner until one come's out that don't cost $4000-$5000 especially right now once they start flooding the chain profits are going to be shit and it'll take 10 years to ROI
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vapourminer
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
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December 11, 2018, 08:06:33 PM |
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last bull run gpus were almost impossible to get. and thats with nvidia and amd shoveling them out the door as fast as they could. if this happens again.. well there are a lot less fpgas to be had than there were gpus. having a few fpgas and knowing their limitations, strengths and needs will make a big difference. try building a good fpga or fpga boosted gpu based system without knowing what they need or how they function.. have fun. sure guides for noobs will come out but too late for many.
Ya but what about the fact that most coin dev's are doing what they can to keep asic and fpga's off their chain fpga's will never be a decentralized miner until one come's out that don't cost $4000-$5000 especially right now once they start flooding the chain profits are going to be shit and it'll take 10 years to ROI fpgas will come down in price, i mean an midrange acorn is what $300? ..cheap to get your fpga feet wet. and as for the race against devs changing algos.. well algos need a lot of testing, you dont just whip something up and risk the future of a coin on some new algo thats possibly faulty or can be gamed. in a race between fpga coders vs devs coming up with algo after algo? ill bet on the fpga coders. if my bet is wrong.. oh well.
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December 12, 2018, 01:15:10 AM |
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last bull run gpus were almost impossible to get. and thats with nvidia and amd shoveling them out the door as fast as they could. if this happens again.. well there are a lot less fpgas to be had than there were gpus. having a few fpgas and knowing their limitations, strengths and needs will make a big difference. try building a good fpga or fpga boosted gpu based system without knowing what they need or how they function.. have fun. sure guides for noobs will come out but too late for many.
Ya but what about the fact that most coin dev's are doing what they can to keep asic and fpga's off their chain fpga's will never be a decentralized miner until one come's out that don't cost $4000-$5000 especially right now once they start flooding the chain profits are going to be shit and it'll take 10 years to ROI fpgas will come down in price, i mean an midrange acorn is what $300? ..cheap to get your fpga feet wet. and as for the race against devs changing algos.. well algos need a lot of testing, you dont just whip something up and risk the future of a coin on some new algo thats possibly faulty or can be gamed. in a race between fpga coders vs devs coming up with algo after algo? ill bet on the fpga coders. if my bet is wrong.. oh well. Don't forget that you need to get the bitstream from the devs with time to roi as well.
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“Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.”
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vapourminer
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
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December 12, 2018, 02:27:24 AM |
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Don't forget that you need to get the bitstream from the devs with time to roi as well.
sure, we get ours after all the farms that pay for private bitstreams and regulars guys in secret bitstream clubs are done. then after that, the pions like me will get the public bitstreams, just in time for reletive scraps.. IOW, same old same old but now with fpgas.
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December 12, 2018, 02:51:41 AM |
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Don't forget that you need to get the bitstream from the devs with time to roi as well.
sure, we get ours after all the farms that pay for private bitstreams and regulars guys in secret bitstream clubs are done. then after that, the pions like me will get the public bitstreams, just in time for reletive scraps.. IOW, same old same old but now with fpgas.
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“Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.”
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December 12, 2018, 06:10:28 AM |
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Don't forget that you need to get the bitstream from the devs with time to roi as well.
sure, we get ours after all the farms that pay for private bitstreams and regulars guys in secret bitstream clubs are done. then after that, the pions like me will get the public bitstreams, just in time for reletive scraps.. IOW, same old same old but now with fpgas. Yeah, its this whole propritary "bitstream" thing that turns me off to these for the most part. That and the overhyped and underdelivered software. And I was so close to wanting to believe in this...
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ZedZedNova
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December 12, 2018, 07:13:21 AM |
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I completely agree with what philipma1957 said. I also took a refund. I can only say that I was almost crucified on GPUHoarder Discord (by all the people posting) when I kept asking to see SQRL Miner and test it before Acorn was released.
You were "almost crucified" not because you asked, but because you never stopped asking at least daily, along with a dozen (or more) others, sometimes only a few messages above yours. Then you kept asking after you requested and received a refund. After a while it gets old. Perhaps if others insisted to see SQRL miner and it had been released, we would have known earlier about the problems. It is still not out. I am surprised that you think that it is normal. On another note (although related), have you seen this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNy5Ta5ccNg&t=1sNever said that I thought it was normal, but for me it was not unexpected given the nature of the project. I bought into the project knowing full well that it might fail. It was a way to dip my toes into the FPGA world for far less than the available FPGA cards available at the time. I haven't seen that video.
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