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June 03, 2015, 01:39:35 PM
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@ Gultahin
you are so full of shit man...
you and the rest of the clowns attacking everyone who questions scrypt.cc
you never come with facts...
we try to protect each other here from fraudulant websites...
We never try to convince people to invest in schemes.....
however you beliebers keep attacking cryptodevil and me...
keep on doing so ....makes all you less credible...all you are problably marcelo santos beliebers....he is like jesus ,,he speaks word of god...

I'm sorry bloedhond but you may need glasses to read correctly what i said.
First point, i never said this was or was not a ponzi operation (just related experiences on facts i lived my self and experiences others told me directly), second point i sometimes do reply to you and cryptodevil because of MOST of the way you guys post (you do can see some facts on latest cryptodevil posts although they prove only speculation they are at least something) but when you two come here with more than nothing than words like ponzi/scam or your verbal agression toward me i have no option but to belive you are trying to spam for signature campaing or just to throw away your time. (saying so add nothing to discussion and just create volume, OPNIONS are NOT FACTS)

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June 03, 2015, 01:42:39 PM
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Where did you get 75%? Last info I got was "23% of the mined coins" as info. And why you focus so strong on LTC? I got alraedy a few times that it's also DOGE and a 3rd one. As I wrote about, only 7 or 8 coins are big enough for this, and in two of them I found hash rate down ramps exactly fitting to the "energy shutdown" in May and also to the 850GH capacity. Combining this with an other coin which had not so a clear ramp, the numbers are perfect fitting.

On the other side your's and other's arguments are also not nonsense. And I know people personally (known them before scrypt.cc...) who have good and high withdrawn.
So for me there is still not a clear answer with facts.

I had many businesses myself of very different kinds in the past.
And if Marcelo realy has this good hardware and I would be in his place, I would also hide like hell.
I developed myself "forbidden" tech in the past, and had to hide years from "nice industry people...", after they did all to crash my business. So you can expect I'm not naive, but I have more than one perspective on things.

It is called 'confirmation bias', meaning you are looking for things which might serve to support the claims that have been made about 'power issues' and altcoins. Hashrate fluctuations happen all the time, are they all supposed to be because scrypt.cc claim to have had one of their DC's get switched off?

As for Dogecoin, it is merge-mined, that extra hashrate it gained when they switched to what they call AuxPoW, comes from Litecoin miners on the Litecoin network which elect to merge-mine (not everybody merge-mines), the total scrypt hashrate for LTC merge-mining is not Litecoin+Dogecoin+Syscoin etc. It is simply Litecoin. (caveat: there will still be a few die-hards who will mine their favourite coin directly but the hashrate for them would be negligible compared to the juggernaut of Litecoin mining hash-power)

http://digiconomist.net/how-auxpow-affected-dogecoin-mining/

With regards to 'forbidden tech', you're just speculating based on what people have claimed. There is no evidence to suggest some secret scrypt-ASIC chips have been developed and sold, and it would be nonsensical to assert some guy in Brazil bought millions of dollars-worth of scrypt-ASIC miners from an unknown manufacturer when the hashrate for the total scrypt network for altcoins is already accounted for with the scrypt-ASIC units built by known manufacturers.

In any event, he doesn't need to show hardware to prove he has 850GH/s of scrypt miners at his disposal, he only needs to show evidence of the freshly mined blocks he'd be churning out each day. Apparently he can't do this either.


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June 03, 2015, 02:01:46 PM
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the total scrypt hashrate for LTC merge-mining is not Litecoin+Dogecoin+Syscoin



Thx for the link, but as I understood it, it's exactly in opposite. The hashrate is Litecoin+Dogecoin (see the table, it's added), and it would not make sense to be in one, but the payment is in both coins. I think in this point you misunderstood, or it is written wrong in the article (or my english is to poor...).
http://digiconomist.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/statistics1509.png



he only needs to show evidence of the freshly mined blocks he'd be churning out each day. Apparently he can't do this either.


Yes, that's a good point, but still a difference between "can't do" and "don't want to". So it's a good point, but not a fact.
This still leads me to the inner strcture of the pools. Any info about this?
If I get no straight fact for the one or the other side, I can digg deeper and try to eliminate unclear points. At the end I maybe find clear straight facts...

(And now pls. noone be attacked or pissed off of this):
I think all know that Goldmann Sachs invested 50 million USD in Bitcoin business. So by this now the real big gangsters entered the room... Not only the UA "amateurs" are here now... (btw. I'm on GS's blacklists..., I know a bit of the game...).
So one thing is a sure fact for me. If someone has a good business in any kind of money business, there will be for 100% sure people who got sent by GSs buddies to harm this business as much as possible. So who proofs me, that some here in forum are not "GS puppets"? No offense pls, but as i told you, I have more than one perspective to the topc...
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June 03, 2015, 02:09:37 PM
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Hold on while I just reach into my pocket and pull out my "Totally not a GS Puppet" membership card.

You *do* realise the absurdity of what you are asking, right?

Besides which, even *if* Goldman Sachs gave a flying one about some scrypt-mining operation, how does that change the facts that 850GH/s of scrypt-mining is clearly not down to scrypt.cc, as evidenced by the data I just posted?


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June 03, 2015, 02:14:57 PM
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You *do* realise the absurdity of what you are asking, right?


Sorry, it's not absurdity, it's just my own experience. So if you think this is absurdity, you are unexperienced, which is no problem, as 99,99% of all people are a bit naive... Grin


how does that change the facts that 850GH/s of scrypt-mining is clearly not down to scrypt.cc, as evidenced by the data I just posted?


I think the facts are not as clear as you may think. And this can have two reasons:
1. Maybe you did not ask all needed questions and did not follow all hints.
2. Maybe they are clear and you just explained it bad...

I'm still searching....

and btw. I have the impresson your card is ok...Cheesy
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June 03, 2015, 02:15:55 PM
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STILL - negative KHS

im had this situation my KHS was -negative and I cant use cancel button in (trading board)

I cant buy or sell KHS...

I already send ticket 2days ago but still pending Ticket ID: #708 and Ticket ID: #730

I hope somebody will help me... admin and support cant response on chat and even in support no response!!

any one here experiencing situation same as mine Huh



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June 03, 2015, 02:19:42 PM
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Thx for the link, but as I understood it, it's exactly in opposite. The hashrate is Litecoin+Dogecoin (see the table, it's added), and it would not make sense to be in one, but the payment is in both coins.

You misunderstand the situation:
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Before merged mining was implemented, Dogecoin mining and Litecoin mining were two separate lotteries that did not accept tickets from each other. Miners could only participate in a single lottery at any given time. When Dogecoin enabled its AuxPow algorithm, the Dogecoin lottery started accepting tickets from both groups of miners. For Litecoin miners, this meant they could generate additional (Dogecoin) revenue without any additional effort. As a result, the Dogecoin network total hashrate has increased tenfold, as most miners in the much larger Litecoin network started mining the former currency as well.

What this means is that if half of, say, 1000GH/s total hashing on the Litecoin network is merge-mined, this will show up as 1000GH/s hashrate for LTC and 500Gh/s hashrate on the Dogecoin network (plus the small amount of dedicated Dogecoin miners)

For an individual mining machine this means mining at a given hash-rate and for that hashrate to be reported within each of the coin networks it is merge-mining. e.g. a 300MH/s scrypt miner which is merge-mining LTC,DOGE and SYS will show up as 300MH/s on LTC, 300MH/s on DOGE and 300MH/s on SYS.

Do you follow?


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June 03, 2015, 02:27:04 PM
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For an individual mining machine this means mining at a given hash-rate and for that hashrate to be reported within each of the coin networks it is merge-mining. e.g. a 300MH/s scrypt miner which is merge-mining LTC,DOGE and SYS will show up as 300MH/s on LTC, 300MH/s on DOGE and 300MH/s on SYS.

Do you follow?


I try.

But this would be a stupid calculation, but crypto currencies (and people behind) are not stupid...
Is there somewhere a better kind of "official" definition to this?
From my mind (I'm php developer now btw...), I would clearly expect 300MH/s which mines 3 coins are calculated as 100MH/s on each coin...
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June 03, 2015, 02:31:04 PM
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No, that is multi-mining and basically is the same as mining on three completely separate scrypt networks, which all have difference 'answers' to the hash.

With merged-mining the ASIC produces a 'hash' and 'presents' it to each of the coin networks it is merge-mining at. If it works in any of them, ka-ching, block reward!

So 300Mh/s merge-mining is 300MH/s for each coin network being merge-mined, as I said.

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June 03, 2015, 02:40:07 PM
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No, that is multi-mining and basically is the same as mining on three completely separate scrypt networks, which all have difference 'answers' to the hash.

With merged-mining the ASIC produces a 'hash' and 'presents' it to each of the coin networks it is merge-mining at. If it works in any of them, ka-ching, block reward!

So 300Mh/s merge-mining is 300MH/s for each coin network being merge-mined, as I said.


Ok, but this can't be right. In this moment LTC is at 1.11 Th/s and DOGE at 1.48 Th/s. Supposed you are right, it had to be the other way around...?

Btw. in the one pool I found some big guys, so it's still possible (from this perspective) that it's scrypt.cc. So more to search....
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Just opened IRC this morning and saw topic updated by one of support members. It may calm you down, they currently have 859 tickets in line to be answered so it may take some time... But mostly he said that ["We're experiencing high server load. Don't be afraid if you have a negative balance, it'll sort out. Reward @ 12.8574Sat/KHS. Beware of phishing links and other scams. Escrow.com has info on preventing fraud in transfers.] so they are aware and working on it, just give sometime and then when stuff are solved/or not come and tell us how things were "sorted out"
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Really thanks for the update
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June 03, 2015, 02:46:14 PM
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Since it obviously still happens, once again, the warning:

DO NOT OPEN ANY LINKS FROM THE CHAT / TROLLBOX!

I can hardly believe that I really have to say it.

More specifically, the links to "Cloudminer.biz".

The "client" that can be downloaded from this site is demonstrably a Trojan.

And yes, I'm sure. VirusTotal, and similar tools do not recognize it.
Your anti-virus program does not protect you against it.

This Trojan is undetected! (yet)

This nasty little beast, digs deep into your system, occupy various system processes (and your browser)
and transmits sensitive data (eg your login information to Scrypt.cc ..) to its creator.

I actually thought common sense would be enough.
But if you shall download a "client" to get free Hashrate (already the 'free' is suspect),
every small Alarm lamp in your brain should suddenly begin frantically blinking.


Be careful people!


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An exception, of course, the two excellent projects sccstats.com and msgrelay.com Wink
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June 03, 2015, 02:55:05 PM
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No, that is multi-mining and basically is the same as mining on three completely separate scrypt networks, which all have difference 'answers' to the hash.

With merged-mining the ASIC produces a 'hash' and 'presents' it to each of the coin networks it is merge-mining at. If it works in any of them, ka-ching, block reward!

So 300Mh/s merge-mining is 300MH/s for each coin network being merge-mined, as I said.


Ok, but this can't be right. In this moment LTC is at 1.11 Th/s and DOGE at 1.48 Th/s. Supposed you are right, it had to be the other way around...?

Btw. in the one pool I found some big guys, so it's still possible (from this perspective) that it's scrypt.cc. So more to search....

No, remember you still have to account for those miners who only mine Dogecoin and don't merge-mine.

Remember, it is one hash 'answer' sent to each of the merge-mined coin networks for every new hash cycle. So a single hashing cycle will show up for each of them, not be divided amongst them.

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June 03, 2015, 03:05:41 PM
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No, remember you still have to account for those miners who only mine Dogecoin and don't merge-mine.

Remember, it is one hash 'answer' sent to each of the merge-mined coin networks for every new hash cycle. So a single hashing cycle will show up for each of them, not be divided amongst them.

ok, got it. Is there anywhere some info available, how much is merge-mining, and how much is "native" mining?
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June 03, 2015, 03:10:14 PM
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Ah, I don't know if you could. After all, the network is based on the number of hashes it receives per second, not whether those same hashes are also being sent to other coin networks.

Does anybody else have any suggestions for whether it can be discerned how much of a network is merged mining?

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June 03, 2015, 03:11:56 PM
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ok, so if we get both (or all) lists, we can make a short program to filter them to get the number.
Any useable source you know?
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June 03, 2015, 03:44:47 PM
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Since it obviously still happens, once again, the warning:

DO NOT OPEN ANY LINKS FROM THE CHAT / TROLLBOX!

I can hardly believe that I really have to say it.

More specifically, the links to "Cloudminer.biz".

The "client" that can be downloaded from this site is demonstrably a Trojan.

And yes, I'm sure. VirusTotal, and similar tools do not recognize it.
Your anti-virus program does not protect you against it.

This Trojan is undetected! (yet)

This nasty little beast, digs deep into your system, occupy various system processes (and your browser)
and transmits sensitive data (eg your login information to Scrypt.cc ..) to its creator.

I actually thought common sense would be enough.
But if you shall download a "client" to get free Hashrate (already the 'free' is suspect),
every small Alarm lamp in your brain should suddenly begin frantically blinking.


Be careful people!


Edit:
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An exception, of course, the two excellent projects sccstats.com and msgrelay.com Wink




Here comes the BS again...so they only hack scrypt.cc hahahahaha you crack me open you funny ho
Why doesn,t their blockchain get hacked,,or their email gmail banc account etc....
Because this is all set up to make the ponzi work
steal deposits withdrawels and clean out complete accounts...
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And this is 4 you gulhatin
U talk more bs than me
U only attack people and u never come with facts...
I can say a lot of facts about scrypt....u can say ish
U climb in the butt cheeks from marcelo maybee he is mining in there ....loser
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@cryptodevil

I think it's important to have people out there that try to explain how mining actually works to people that are brand new to cryptocurrency.  That's why I offered evidence to show that scrypt.cc's historical returns are unjustifiable based on the actual profitability of scrypt coins.

But no matter what, evidence-based arguments are answered with complete nonsense.  Goldman Sachs was one of several companies that invested a total of $50 million in Circle, a website where you can buy Bitcoin with a credit card.  What the hell does that have to do with scrypt.cc?  As you pointed out, absolutely nothing.

Scrypt.cc says they paid like $2.50 per mhs for their hash power.  That's far less than what it will cost even when next generation hardware comes out.  There's no evidence they're actually mining, their returns are not based on reality, their payouts don't vary enough to account for the constant conversion from scrypt to Bitcoin they pretend they're doing, dissident voices are routinely muted in their chat, the list goes on...

These are things that we see and know are clear evidence of a scam, especially considering how easy it would be for scrypt.cc to prove us wrong if they were actually mining.  The evidence is out there for anyone to see.

My point with all this is to say, maybe it's time to throw in the towel.  The overwhelming tidal wave of stupidity will continue to crash down no matter what.
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June 03, 2015, 04:59:58 PM
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p.s.
I found info, that he is buying hardware in China. www.f2pool.com and ltc1btc.com are chinese pools, the two biggest LTC miners. Has anyone infos about them, or can read chineese (goole translator gave BS...)?  Any info about the inner pool structures available?
I can read chinese, what part do you want me to read?

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June 03, 2015, 05:13:27 PM
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Since it obviously still happens, once again, the warning:

DO NOT OPEN ANY LINKS FROM THE CHAT / TROLLBOX!

I can hardly believe that I really have to say it.

More specifically, the links to "Cloudminer.biz".

The "client" that can be downloaded from this site is demonstrably a Trojan.

And yes, I'm sure. VirusTotal, and similar tools do not recognize it.
Your anti-virus program does not protect you against it.

This Trojan is undetected! (yet)

This nasty little beast, digs deep into your system, occupy various system processes (and your browser)
and transmits sensitive data (eg your login information to Scrypt.cc ..) to its creator.

I actually thought common sense would be enough.
But if you shall download a "client" to get free Hashrate (already the 'free' is suspect),
every small Alarm lamp in your brain should suddenly begin frantically blinking.


Be careful people!


Edit:
small correction.
An exception, of course, the two excellent projects sccstats.com and msgrelay.com Wink


As a Linux Mint/Ubuntu user, I am not worried about this at all, lol.

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