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February 20, 2014, 12:25:10 AM |
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February 20, 2014, 12:27:18 AM |
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How would others rate the top 2 or 3 books and in what order? Listing the bottom 2 or 3 would also help.
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February 20, 2014, 12:44:13 AM |
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.........I would like to find a credible agent for those 3 books (or any single one of them).
At this point I don't feel secure that sbobitcoin.com is the agent I'm looking for .........
Gogo- Agents don't exist for books unless you are playing on credit. This goes for post up books and bitcoin books. You'll never get any information on other agents with one exception. Some agents are highly respected because of their payout history. You still can't research the agent. It's word of mouth. |
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February 20, 2014, 01:00:47 AM |
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Use BitBook as an example. How long have they been in business and what type of research can you do on Bitbook? It's the same with almost all bitcoin books.
Most of the time, you go by personal experience, what it posted, what the book says and what's on google. Then you try to filter the truth from fiction. This is for the initial rating and it's far from a complete science. With SBOBitcoin there was more research done since it was available.
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February 20, 2014, 01:04:23 AM
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.........I would like to find a credible agent for those 3 books (or any single one of them).
At this point I don't feel secure that sbobitcoin.com is the agent I'm looking for .........
Gogo- Agents don't exist for books unless you are playing on credit.Charlie Robert - " sbobitcoin.com is an agent for opening sportsbook account with renowned market leader like SBOBET, IBCBET and Pinnacle." Peeps Place - You are an absolute idiot. |
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You'll never get any information on other agents with one exception. Gogo- I said one exception and that is SBOBitcoin. Agents do not exist with other books unless it's on credit. It's word of mouth. What information do you have on any of the bitcoin books? If you have something, then share it. |
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February 20, 2014, 01:12:22 AM |
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Coinbet is another book that is transparent and you can get a lot more information. Most bitcoin books stay under the radar as much as possible.
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February 20, 2014, 01:14:25 AM |
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Gogo- There are many agents for Pinnacle Sports but you will not be able to personally find anything about them.
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February 20, 2014, 01:23:29 AM |
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Gogo- There are many agents for Pinnacle Sports but you will not be able to personally find anything about them.
Typically irrelevant comment. I am investigating sbobitcoin.com I don't know if this is your version of trolling, or if you really have an empty room upstairs. |
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February 20, 2014, 02:40:54 AM |
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I have 3 or 4 other reasons for doubting sbobitcoin.com, or at least questioning whether they are legitimate.
Another way to say this is that I am still uneasy about depositing funds there.
At this time, I am choosing not to mention those reasons.
So you have information on Sbobitcoin that shows they aren't legitimate but aren't going to tell the forum? |
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February 20, 2014, 05:11:16 AM |
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I have 3 or 4 other reasons for doubting sbobitcoin.com, or at least questioning whether they are legitimate.
Another way to say this is that I am still uneasy about depositing funds there.
At this time, I am choosing not to mention those reasons.
I'm hoping instead I can get the questions answered satisfactorily which I asked Charlie Robert.
I would like to find a credible agent for those 3 books (or any single one of them).
At this point I don't feel secure that sbobitcoin.com is the agent I'm looking for, and I am seeking some reassurance.
I have found Peeps Place to be no help whatsoever in trying to investigate further, yet that should be one of the goals of a legitimate rating list.
Dear Gogo, You are most welcome to visit us anytime. There is no hidden agenda here. Exposing our address can be good also bad thing for our business. Thanks for all yout quiry |
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February 20, 2014, 06:02:33 AM |
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One thing that I did is ask the book is if they had any problems with payouts. I didn't ask for an exact issue that they had although I knew that some did have a problem for one reason or another. It was refreshing to see the honesty of most of the bitcoin books.
Some book said there has never been an issue and there's nothing out there that I could find. Others said that they may red flag an account for suspicious activity and it may take up to 4 hours. A lot of it coincided with what's posted on the boards. Some said that there was a technical issue that caused delays. That was confirmed by what's out on the forums. Honesty is important.
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February 20, 2014, 06:04:58 AM |
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Can anyone here describe how SBObitcoin actually works? It seems like they actually deposit your funds to a Pinnacle account which you then login to. So the risk in this case would be SBObitcoin taking money from the account and not paying you out, correct? New to this agent thing, and just trying to figure out the mechanics and risk involved.
You are 100% correct. SBObitcoin.com opens at an “A” rating surpassing Bitbook as the top rated place to play using bitcoins. SBObitcoin is an agent of the top sports books in the world in PinnacleSports, SBOBET and IBCBET. Players deposit bitcoins with SBObitcoin and they are then exchanged for your choice of Hong Kong dollars or Singapore dollars. The Asian dollars are then deposited into the sports book. The exchange rate of your deposits and withdraws will stay the same and not fluctuate. It takes 3-5 minutes for withdraws and six confirmations are needed for deposits. Live chat is open 24/7.
SBObitcoin has been in business for six months with bitcoin accounts and seven years overall. SBObitcoin states that they are one of the products of Ole Group Philippines Inc., and are licensed and regulated by the Government of the Philippines under First Cagayan Resort & Leisure Corporation.
There have been no reports of payout problems with SBObitcoin. Both Pinnacle Sports and SBOBET are top rated sports books in the world taking the highest wagers. Pinnacle takes the largest wagers on American sports while SBOBET takes the largest wagers in soccer. The book hold at Pinnacle is the lowest in the industry and SBOBET is not far behind. |
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February 20, 2014, 06:11:42 AM |
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There is also a chart of bookmaker theoretical hold that will be posted. We all would rather have -105 instead of -110.
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February 20, 2014, 06:20:46 AM |
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Some books may say that there has never been a problem with a payout. It's always been instant. Then I go and read 20 similar complaints here and elsewhere, I just toss out a lot of what the book says in that tye of situation.
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February 20, 2014, 06:24:19 AM |
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With an agent, you work directly with the agent and all communication is with the agent. If you contact the book directly, they won't give you any information on your account.
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February 20, 2014, 07:56:38 AM
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Gogo- The easiest way to explain it is that when you are an affiliate, you get a cut of the net losses or volume depending on the package. The player deals with the book and not the affiliate. The book pays the affiliate.
With an agent, the player deals with the agent and not the book. For this reason, agent information is almost never available. Pinnacle deals with high volume. SBOBitcoin most likely receives a percentage of the volume that they bring to Pinnacle. The same goes for SBOBET. It doesn't have to be that way but that's my guess.
Since SBOCoinbet has a nice deal working with two of the biggest books without complaint, common sense says that they want to keep this deal. With the bitcoin books, at the first sign of trouble, you should be very cautious. They aren't dealing with close the volume and it may be better off for them to run wth your money.
Agents can be much more trustworthy than books although there are many rogue agents that will stiff you. It is their reputation that counts.
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February 20, 2014, 08:23:56 AM |
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There are agents that will give players $100k worth of credit or $500k worth of credit at Pinny. If you get set up with this agent, you don't ask for their address and how long that they have been in business.
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February 20, 2014, 08:29:39 AM |
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There are agents that will give players $100k worth of credit or $500k worth of credit at Pinny. If you get set up with this agent, you don't ask for their address and how long that they have been in business.
If someone is fronting me 500k, I'm pretty sure we both know a lot about each other. |
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February 20, 2014, 08:46:32 AM |
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There are agents that will give players $100k worth of credit or $500k worth of credit at Pinny. If you get set up with this agent, you don't ask for their address and how long that they have been in business.
If someone is fronting me 500k, I'm pretty sure we both know a lot about each other. Good point. I should have used smaller amounts such as $1k or $5k. You aren't asking the agent for his information. |
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