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Author Topic: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.  (Read 89153 times)
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May 09, 2014, 02:23:32 AM
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New broker opened. Evolvebets is similar to SBOBitcoin.

Books include SBOBet, IBCbet and TBSBET.


Anybody know anything about them?

Offhand I'd prefer SBOBitcoin.com, as they have 24/7 live chat and 24/7 withdrawals, while this place is down for 7.5 hrs/day and their chat currently says "Leave a message" so if they do have live chat it is not 24/7 either.
I never heard of them but it doesn't make any sense to use them unless you like TBSBET and I've never heard of that book either.

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May 09, 2014, 08:12:44 AM
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Gobetgo and Webetcoins open at D+

"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)

"C" rated books
Casinobitcoin C+ (2013)
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
Betcoinsports C (2013)
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *
Bitbm C- (2013)

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
BetVIP D+ (2014)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitcoinlivebets D- (2013)

"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC

* longer accepting cash deposits



Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are slow paying or stiffing players

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May 09, 2014, 09:45:41 PM
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Bitcoinsportstrade opened a couple of weeks ago. They don't have lines for full game. It's only for props and they only list one or two props per day such as

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Dirk Nowitzki total points+assists+rebounds starting in 7:10
Dwight Howard total points+rebounds starting in 9:40

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May 13, 2014, 12:31:15 AM
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DirectBet- I think that you should offer both sides of wagers. Many times you just offer one side such as Mia/Brook in game. Brooklyn is +166 but no odds on Mia.

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May 13, 2014, 07:25:04 PM
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Info@Anonibet - [Re: statement in T&C that withdrawing without 1x play through will be charged 5%]

"Dear Gogo ppp,

Thank you for your comment. As I have already explained, we do not want to become a safe box. We have never applied this rule so far. I do not understand why this disturbs you..."




Michael - Since you said you don't understand...


I leave a few coins in various books that I feel comfortable with, in case I find a bet I would like to make in the future and can save time this way.

I would feel comfortable doing this with Anonibet, except I don't want to be charged 5% if I decide to withdraw (a few coins). Part of the positives of bitcoins is they can be moved for a few pennies, not 5%.

So it makes me uncomfortable for that reason. Yours is the only book where I see that charge.
If I leave 4 coins valued at ~$500 usd each it will cost me $100 if you change your mind/someone other than you applies the charge, etc.

You say the charge has never been applied.
But then, as I asked, why not remove the language, and give individual warnings that you will apply the 5% charge in the future to people you feel are using Anonibet as a safe box.

So this is why it disturbs me and why I mentioned it for a 2nd time.



OK I see your point now. You might be right, we shall remove it from our T&C.

We have set this rule in order to prevent large amounts of BTC kept in Anonibet. Bitcoin is very attractive for hackers and we do not want to attract "bad guys" thinking we keep large amounts of BTC. This was the only purpose really. We do not even charge withdraw fees, we pay the network fee at each withdraw so that our customers receive the exact amount they have withdrawn from Anonibet.

Regards,
Michael

The above re: the following in Anonibet's T&C:
"2.02
In order to withdraw funds from your account, you are required to place bets as much as the amount deposited. If you make a withdrawal request without placing bets 5% handling fee shall be deducted from the amount you have requested."


Michael - "OK I see your point now. You might be right, we shall remove it from our T&C."


Peeps Place - "Nice work by both gogo and Anonibet working together. It's good to see a book take our opinions seriously."


Yet I notice it is still there 9 days later. Perhaps you forgot to remove it?



Anonibet - What is happening with the above situation?
Did you decide not to remove the 5% charge for withdrawing without rolling over a deposit one time?

  Posted May 4th


Hi Gogo,

- We will remove this %5 from our T&C. I have requested from our IT team to remove it. They will certainly do it this week.


Huh


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Last edit: May 15, 2014, 05:21:43 AM by WhatsBitcoin
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Initiated a withdraw for 1357 credits (1.357 BTC) with BetcoinSports at 11:23 PM CST. Will update when payout has been sent.

Edit: Withdraw received approximately 30 minutes after request. Thanks betcoin.

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May 15, 2014, 01:57:53 PM
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Two new bitcoin sportsbooks have entered the ratings this week. Webetcoins.com and Gobetgo.com both opened the ratings at D+. Webetcoins.com is offering extremely low juice in baseball: 5 cent lines on sides and 10 cent lines on totals.  Gobetgo.com also talks openly about a desire to offer the lowest juice of all bitcoin books, but that isn’t the case yet. A quick look at Friday’s lines for MLB shows Gobetgo.com is using 17 cent lines for sides, and 12 cent lines on totals.

It bears repeating once again: The popularity of bitcoins has led to a number of new businesses using the digital currency, with casinos and sportsbooks near the top of the list. New sportsbooks, dealing either with bitcoins or postup, are likely to fail. It has been estimated less than 10% of all sportsbooks make it at least one year before folding. Anonibet and Nitrogen Sports have passed the time test; one can feel relatively confident they are planning to stay for the long haul. The newer books haven’t had the opportunity to show this endurance, so are riskier to the average player. Caution is advised.

“A” rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

“B”rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)

“C” rated books
Casinobitcoin C+ (2013)
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
Betcoinsports C (2013)
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *
Bitbm C- (2013)

“D” rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
BetVIP D+ (2014)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitcoinlivebets D- (2013)

“F” rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC

* longer accepting cash deposits

 

Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A – 2 years
B – 1 year
C – 3 months
D – 1 month
F – reserved for books that are slow paying or stiffing pla
http://news.rouletters.com/the-may-15th-bitcoin-sportsbook-ratings-0002199.html

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May 15, 2014, 02:33:41 PM
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Just writing a small feedback on nitrogensports, They at least deserve some praising:

I have used them for 6 months now, I didn't have any problems with the websites nor grading/slip placing . Grading for 90% of the events occurred within less than 10 minutes of it ending regardless of the time. I get my withdrawals instantly (not playing E-sports), Most comfortable User-interference since Old Bitbook days.

They also have teasers and I doubt anyone else has those on current BTC bookies, Best sport bookie I have used so far.
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May 15, 2014, 03:10:44 PM
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Darkbet to be down a couple of days.

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May 15, 2014, 03:22:32 PM
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Anonibet World Cup contest. 22 BTC

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Anonibet World Cup Contest with 22 BTC up for grabs!

It comes once every four years, which is why we have decided to make it worth remembering. Anonibet brings to you the 2014 World Cup Promotion where exciting 22 BTC is up for grabs.

CONTEST RULES

•   Bets with a minimum stake of 0.1 BTC qualify for the promotion.
•   Promotion will run from the 19th of May 00:00 GMT until 10 minutes before kick off of the opening World Cup match(Brazil vs Croatia).
•   The player who has the MOST WINNING ACCUMULATIVE ODDS at the end will win the Grand Prize of 10 BTC (if a betting slip wins, all the odds are put into your points basket).
•   Second Prize Receives 5 BTC while 3rd place will get 3 BTC
•   There will be a consolation prize for the unlucky loser i.e when your slip misses by 1 game, the remainder of the odds will be put to your losing basket. Biggest loser receives 2 BTC.
•   In order to participate to the promotion, customers should copy and paste their betting slip (with the bet slip number) to the Bitcointalk.org Anonibet.com thread. This will be done so as to show transparency as we are running this promotion FOR the players, we would want the players to observe as well on the forum.
•   Customers can participate with an unlimited amount of betting slips.
•   Anonibet is doing this to thank OUR players for believing in us and for promoting our beloved BTC therefore prizes from the contest will be deposited into the winning player`s Anonibet account, and they can withdraw the prize immediately without placing any bet.
•   Posts made after the expiry of the contest duration will not by any chance be eligible for the contest.
•   In the event of tied points, prizes will be split respectively among the  participants.
•   For the World Cup, our Facebook page will run a World Cup Bitcoin Meme contest where the meme with the most Likes will receive 2 BTC. For more details on this promotion, visit our facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Anonibet/139078896207240).

•   Because we are doing this for the players, player feedback will be greatly appreciated.

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May 15, 2014, 03:28:08 PM
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Feel free to post any other World Cup contests. Thanks

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May 16, 2014, 06:30:54 AM
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For DirectBet - Just want to show more proof that we aren't paid to post here. Here's another article we got out.

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Nitrogensports.eu, one of the top bitcoin sportsbooks in the world, has released odds on individual games in the World Cup.

Brazil, the host country, faces off against Croatia in the first game of the Cup on June 12. Brazil is -317 to win outright, with Croatia at +1127 odds to pull the upset. A draw in the game is +443.

The total is set at 2.5 goals, with the over slightly favored at -118. For those bettors interested in the goal line for the game, Brazil is favored by 1.5 goals, -104.

Three games will be played on Friday, June 13th. Cameroon and Mexico will play the early game. Mexico is the slight favorite, +113, to win the game outright. Cameroon is +307, with a draw at +224.

The over/under is two goals, and goal line is Cameroon +.5 -124.

The Netherlands and Spain will play the second game of the day. Spain, one of the favorites to win the 2014 Cup, is -101 on the money line. The Netherlands are +343, with a draw +238. The total for the game is two goals with over at -129.

The final game of the day will feature Australia vs. Chile. Chile is -201 on the money line, while Australia is +687. The draw is +333. The total is 2.5 goals with under -122.
http://news.rouletters.com/lines-are-released-for-early-games-of-the-world-cup-0002210.html

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May 16, 2014, 06:31:43 AM
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Anyone having problems with a book? It's been quiet so that's good news for us players.

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May 16, 2014, 08:06:58 AM
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DirectBet is pleased to announce that we are now accepting bets in Litecoins and Dogecoins !  Grin

http://www.DirectBet.eu

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May 16, 2014, 11:51:34 AM
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DirectBet is pleased to announce that we are now accepting bets in Litecoins and Dogecoins !  Grin

http://www.DirectBet.eu

Very Nice!


Jetwin is nice, very fast grading and good website utility. Odds are pretty much on par with the best in the bitcoinworld.

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May 20, 2014, 03:06:29 AM
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dplay talking about Coindrafts

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I need to retract my statement about them being thieves, I no longer think they are.

I've had a 2btc pending withdrawal request for weeks, when I finally threatened them to post my story on the forum they agreed to process a manual payout (as they supposedly have the funds but their software is riddled with glitches). When I was offered a manual payout I asked for a greater sum to be paid out than my initial 2btc request. I was given some random reason why they weren't able to fulfill my desire for my cash to be given to me, but they promised to pay out the 2btc.

As it appears, they did pay out half of it and I had no idea it was them until livechat pointed it out to me right now. They also apologized for sending only half the sum and promised again to send the other half today.

As for the rest of my balance with them I do not expect to see it soon, if ever. I was just given a line by livechat that 'it is looking good to have that done within the next 48 hours' but I do not believe one word of it.

Therefore, I repeat, I do not think they are thieves, I sincerely think honest people run the site. On the other hand I do think they're completely broke.

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May 20, 2014, 03:12:12 AM
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With the 2014 FIFA World Cup rapidly approaching JETWIN has prepared a special offer for all sports fans - 100% Deposit bonus on much more favorable terms as compared to standard terms and conditions. This special offer has not yet been published on the website; therefore bitcointalk users can take an advantage and be the first to use this offer.
Listed below are terms of the bonus offered:

WHAT IS THIS PROMOTION?
1. 100% DEPOSIT BONUS FOR FIRST DEPOSIT!
2. BONUS AMOUNT UP TO mBTC 300

               
HOW TO CLAIM?
1. Register non-anonymous account at https://JETWIN.com/.
2. Fill in BONUS CODE "F50" on the signup page during registration.
3. Make an initial deposit of at least mBTC 100.
4. Bonus will credited instantly upon successful deposit.


TERMS AND CONDITIONS
1. The first deposit must be at least mBTC 100. If the first deposit after your registration is below the minimum amount, then you will not be allowed to participate in the promotion.
2. Your initial deposit plus the bonus is subjected to 5 times turnover in JETWIN Sports book wager prior to any withdrawal may be made.
3. Bets made at below 1/2 (1.50) (-200), void, tie or cancelled will be not counted towards the rollover requirements.
4. The WELCOME BONUS is valid for residents from all countries.
5. The bonus amount and all winnings will be forfeited if the deposit and bonus rollover requirements are not met within 180 days of bonus credit.
6. Subjected to terms of use of JETWIN Standard Promotion Terms and Conditions.


Standard promotion terms and conditions
The following are the terms and conditions governing all the promotion under this Website. All customer applications of the promotion under this website are subject to and governed by these terms and conditions.
1.   Customer is over the age of 18, or the age of consent in the customer's home jurisdiction, whichever is higher and has the mental capacity to take responsibility for the Customer's own actions and be bound by these terms and conditions. JETWIN shall reserves the right at any and all times to void any transactions involving minors.
2.   After a bonus has been credited to a customer’s betting account, any funds are unavailable for withdrawal. As soon as a customer fulfills bonus rollover requirements, the restriction will be cancelled.
3.   Only wagers that generate a win/loss return will contribute to the promotional rollover requirement.
4.   Bets placed on «Outright» markets do not count towards any rollover requirement. Multi Bet which contains selection belonging to the above-mentioned bet type similarly will not be counted towards the rollover requirements.
5.   Bets made below (Decimal Odds 1.5; US Odds -200; Fractional Odds 1/2) and void, tie, cancelled will not be counted towards the rollover requirements.
6.   All deposit bonuses must be turned over on any bet, with a maximum bet amount of mBTC 150. If the bet is worth more than mBTC 150, only mBTC 150 will be counted towards the wagering requirement.
7.   For wagering purposes only the first bet qualifies in one single event. Example on the match Arsenal vs Chelsea only the first bet qualifies and “following bets” will not count towards the rollover requirements.
8.   Obligation to bonus terms, rules and restrictions is fulfilled when an account balance is less than the minimum stake amount allowed (i.e. mBTC 0.20). Note that total account balance includes pending sports bets.

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May 21, 2014, 11:59:26 PM
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Info@Anonibet - [Re: statement in T&C that withdrawing without 1x play through will be charged 5%]

"Dear Gogo ppp,

Thank you for your comment. As I have already explained, we do not want to become a safe box. We have never applied this rule so far. I do not understand why this disturbs you..."




Michael - Since you said you don't understand...


I leave a few coins in various books that I feel comfortable with, in case I find a bet I would like to make in the future and can save time this way.

I would feel comfortable doing this with Anonibet, except I don't want to be charged 5% if I decide to withdraw (a few coins). Part of the positives of bitcoins is they can be moved for a few pennies, not 5%.

So it makes me uncomfortable for that reason. Yours is the only book where I see that charge.
If I leave 4 coins valued at ~$500 usd each it will cost me $100 if you change your mind/someone other than you applies the charge, etc.

You say the charge has never been applied.
But then, as I asked, why not remove the language, and give individual warnings that you will apply the 5% charge in the future to people you feel are using Anonibet as a safe box.

So this is why it disturbs me and why I mentioned it for a 2nd time.



OK I see your point now. You might be right, we shall remove it from our T&C.

We have set this rule in order to prevent large amounts of BTC kept in Anonibet. Bitcoin is very attractive for hackers and we do not want to attract "bad guys" thinking we keep large amounts of BTC. This was the only purpose really. We do not even charge withdraw fees, we pay the network fee at each withdraw so that our customers receive the exact amount they have withdrawn from Anonibet.

Regards,
Michael

The above re: the following in Anonibet's T&C:
"2.02
In order to withdraw funds from your account, you are required to place bets as much as the amount deposited. If you make a withdrawal request without placing bets 5% handling fee shall be deducted from the amount you have requested."


Michael - "OK I see your point now. You might be right, we shall remove it from our T&C."


Peeps Place - "Nice work by both gogo and Anonibet working together. It's good to see a book take our opinions seriously."


Yet I notice it is still there 9 days later. Perhaps you forgot to remove it?



Anonibet - What is happening with the above situation?
Did you decide not to remove the 5% charge for withdrawing without rolling over a deposit one time?



Anonibet Michael - You've twice stated that you will remove from your T&C the condition that deposits to your book must be
rolled over 1x before withdrawing or pay a 5% fee.

It's now over a month and you have not followed thru.

It's inexcusable to charge 5% for a btc withdrawal which costs you nothing.
Do you know of any other btc book that charges for withdrawals?

What is the problem? Did you decide you want that 5%?

If not, why haven't you followed thru after stating twice that you will?
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The above re: the following in Anonibet's T&C:
"2.02
In order to withdraw funds from your account, you are required to place bets as much as the amount deposited. If you make a withdrawal request without placing bets 5% handling fee shall be deducted from the amount you have requested."


Michael - "OK I see your point now. You might be right, we shall remove it from our T&C."


Peeps Place - "Nice work by both gogo and Anonibet working together. It's good to see a book take our opinions seriously."



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May 23, 2014, 02:04:05 PM
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The above re: the following in Anonibet's T&C:
"2.02
In order to withdraw funds from your account, you are required to place bets as much as the amount deposited. If you make a withdrawal request without placing bets 5% handling fee shall be deducted from the amount you have requested."


Michael - "OK I see your point now. You might be right, we shall remove it from our T&C."


Peeps Place - "Nice work by both gogo and Anonibet working together. It's good to see a book take our opinions seriously."



Peeps?

Please see the new T&C:

2.02 In order for our website not to be used as a storage facility, we shall impose a 5% fee on deposits that are withdrawn without being used for sporstbetting and casino. Proven Anonibet customers are excluded from this condition.

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