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Author Topic: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.  (Read 89153 times)
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May 03, 2014, 04:45:47 AM
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What you say is unethical. We plug in promotional sections at other forums. I'm in an airport so will reply tonight if I don't finish. We plug at cash forums to turn them into bitcoin books. We also send out articles in publications.

Look at the date of my PMs. Your book has drastically changed since then. You no longer have line lines because of the hold on bets. This means that DirectBet is now useless. Your theoretical hold is outrageous.

You keep spreading false information about us.

You were betting in-play on DirectBet several times during April, as recent as April 26th, just 3 days before this story broke out, then you come here and say that we are useless ?

Why instead don't you give us credit for offering bets that were not available by your top rated books ?


I tried to play. Me bets were getting rejected. Some said pending and then 5 seconds later said rejected. That's why I'm saying that your book has become useless. You were good months ago but changes have been made.

I try to stay unbias and Directbet has seen my feedback. They are C-level book in my opinion. Just wanted to state that yesterday did place 2 nba wagers and the juice was not extreme for live betting. Line was 1.9/1.9 at some times. Good you lowered your hold.

Get sick. Get well.
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May 03, 2014, 04:51:37 AM
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What you say is unethical. We plug in promotional sections at other forums. I'm in an airport so will reply tonight if I don't finish. We plug at cash forums to turn them into bitcoin books. We also send out articles in publications.

Look at the date of my PMs. Your book has drastically changed since then. You no longer have line lines because of the hold on bets. This means that DirectBet is now useless. Your theoretical hold is outrageous.

You keep spreading false information about us.

You were betting in-play on DirectBet several times during April, as recent as April 26th, just 3 days before this story broke out, then you come here and say that we are useless ?

Why instead don't you give us credit for offering bets that were not available by your top rated books ?


I tried to play. Me bets were getting rejected. Some said pending and then 5 seconds later said rejected. That's why I'm saying that your book has become useless. You were good months ago but changes have been made.

I try to stay unbias and Directbet has seen my feedback. They are C-level book in my opinion. Just wanted to state that yesterday did place 2 nba wagers and the juice was not extreme for live betting. Line was 1.9/1.9 at some times. Good you lowered your hold.
thanks for the feedback. Keep it coming guys.

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May 03, 2014, 06:02:22 AM
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Speaking of lines.. we have among the best lines online. Running 2 cent lines on many events. Bet with GoBetGo!

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May 03, 2014, 06:24:07 AM
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What you say is unethical.

Unethical?

Why?
It's unethical to rate the books for pay at bitcointalk since the ratings are for this community.

Yes, of course. I agree.

I meant what did DirectBet say that's unethical. But never mind, the thread has moved on.
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May 03, 2014, 07:31:40 AM
Last edit: May 03, 2014, 08:01:32 AM by DirectBet
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What you say is unethical. We plug in promotional sections at other forums. I'm in an airport so will reply tonight if I don't finish. We plug at cash forums to turn them into bitcoin books. We also send out articles in publications.

Look at the date of my PMs. Your book has drastically changed since then. You no longer have line lines because of the hold on bets. This means that DirectBet is now useless. Your theoretical hold is outrageous.

You keep spreading false information about us.

You were betting in-play on DirectBet several times during April, as recent as April 26th, just 3 days before this story broke out, then you come here and say that we are useless ?

Why instead don't you give us credit for offering bets that were not available by your top rated books ?


I tried to play. Me bets were getting rejected. Some said pending and then 5 seconds later said rejected. That's why I'm saying that your book has become useless. You were good months ago but changes have been made.


You keep spreading false information here on DirectBet.

You did successfully placed several bets on DirectBet during April and they were confirmed.

A few days after your most recent confirmed bet you come here and say that we are useless, instead of crediting us for offering bets that were not available by your top rated sponsored books.

The bet you had rejected was not our fault. I have already explained it to you in this post :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448302.msg6454587#msg6454587

Again and again I am proving that you post false information here on DirectBet to hurt our business.

You do it because we did not want to pay you to advertise us and because we dared to question your ratings.

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May 03, 2014, 07:40:07 AM
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We plug in promotional sections at other forums. I'm in an airport so will reply tonight if I don't finish. We plug at cash forums to turn them into bitcoin books. We also send out articles in publications.

Peeps, so how about you put a disclosure in the opening post, stating that :

"We are getting paid by the following Bitcoin Sportbooks to advertise them on our web site and in forums (just not this forum)"

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May 03, 2014, 09:24:22 AM
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Directbet , youre a sportsbook with terrible odds. Sportsbook are parasites by nature. You dont even extend the curtesy to punters by offering decent odds for the right to suck on them, thats considering your promo you still take too much juice.

You dont want to pay for advertisement so dont complain.


You shouldnt talk about ethics and play the victim. Do it like cloudbet who despite their rating stay classy and do their best to offer a decent service. At least they understand public image and how to build a repuation.

In the end if peeps gets paid then its his right and its not less unethical then beeing a bookie.

I have seen more then 1 rating thread and somehow this got to be most popular so I suggest you deal with it. Everyone has the right to make a rating thread and its up to the community to accept it.

If you were smart you would do your best to be the best and point out why youre good and proof yourself instead of playing the victim.

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May 03, 2014, 10:14:11 AM
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If you were smart you would do your best to be the best and point out why youre good and proof yourself instead of playing the victim.

We explained in previous posts why we believe that we are better than Anonibet, the top rated Bitcoin sportsbook in this list.

We beat them in every category, including the odds. If you'd like to read our reasoning, the discussion starts here :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448302.msg6137493#msg6137493

If you disagree, we certainly respect that.

A few hours after we claimed that we are better than Anonibet and questioned the rating, Peeps punished us and reduced our rating to C.

Peeps has the right to get paid for his work.

What we are asking is that Peeps disclose in the opening post which Bitcoin Sportbooks are paying him to promote them in forums so that the readers of this thread will have the relevant information to decide if and where the ratings are biased.

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May 03, 2014, 10:45:13 AM
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I have a proposal for the criteria by which the books are rated. I think that the books that void valid bets should be no better than A-.  Smiley
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May 03, 2014, 04:10:03 PM
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Ok youre better then anoni. But you cant be A rated because youre a startup as per rules in the OP which all books are subject to. Deal with it.

You say peeps is paid by anoni, he and anoni deny that. He wont admit to it even if its true. Deal with it.

Also if you aim to be best by comparing yourself to a A rated book in a thread that you believe is having paid for ratings you loose all credibility.

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May 03, 2014, 04:41:29 PM
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Peeps Place, what do you have anything to add to my dispute with Anonibet? What is your final opinion on that? Who is wrong, the sportsbook or the player? Do you lack any additional info?
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May 03, 2014, 04:47:40 PM
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Peeps Place, what do you have anything to add to my dispute with Anonibet? What is your final opinion on that? Who is wrong, the sportsbook or the player? Do you lack any additional info?
This is what I have to add. You are a first time poster. You claimed that Anonibet canceled a bet. I told you multiple times to send me the email that you sent to Anonibet and that I would look up a line history on archives.

I don't want what Anonibet sent you. I would need their approval but you refuse to give me information. How can a book be downgraded on the word of a first time poster with no proof?

On one side we have a book in existence since 2011 with a history of having not one stiff job or unfair cancellation. On the other side we have a first time poster that refuses to work with me.

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May 03, 2014, 05:12:24 PM
Last edit: May 03, 2014, 05:39:48 PM by Peeps Place
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If a poster is having problems getting paid from a book, I ask you to do it in this way:

1. Try to work it out with the book.
2. If that doesn't work, then bring it to the forums.
3. Please do not threaten a book to bring it to this thread if you are not paid. This thread is not to be used for forum extortion. Players that are rightfully owed should be paid but there is a correct way to go about it.


DirectBet tried to spin things because he feels unfairly treated. I'm on the players side and the book doesn't matter. This thread is for the players.

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May 03, 2014, 05:59:51 PM
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Any word on Jetwin? They offered me a good bonus with imrpoved T&C. Their website looks good and functional. Lines seem good for a bitcoinbook.

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May 03, 2014, 06:23:52 PM
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Peeps Place, what do you have anything to add to my dispute with Anonibet? What is your final opinion on that? Who is wrong, the sportsbook or the player? Do you lack any additional info?
This is what I have to add. You are a first time poster. You claimed that Anonibet canceled a bet. I told you multiple times to send me the email that you sent to Anonibet and that I would look up a line history on archives.

I don't want what Anonibet sent you. I would need their approval but you refuse to give me information. How can a book be downgraded on the word of a first time poster with no proof?

On one side we have a book in existence since 2011 with a history of having not one stiff job or unfair cancellation. On the other side we have a first time poster that refuses to work with me.
First of all, I'm not sure what our emails have to do with the bet being wrongly settled. I've laid out the facts and Michael hasn't denied any of them.

Either way, I've offered to have the whole conversation posted, I've received no response from the other side so I'll just post the emails I wrote.

I first sent them a message through their internal messaging system, I do not have the contents of that message.

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The game took place on a neutral venue, therefore there were no home and away teams.
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Once again, as the game was played on neutral ground, the order by which the teams are displayed is meaningless. There is no home advantage.

Also, kindly state if this is your final decision. If that's the case I'll proceed to the forums where you advertise yourselves and make my case there.
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There was no mistake about my bet, it was very much in line with the other bookmakers at the time I took it. So would you kindly elaborate on the "odds being attributed to the wrong team" part?
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What you've done is just made an adjustment for the market move. Both set of odds are for the same game, one are opening odds the other are closing odds. There is no obvious error.
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Was that your final say on the matter?
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I sincerely believe you are an honest sportsbook, however, what you're pulling here makes absolutely no sense. The bet I got on was valid, in line with the odds the rest of the world had. I've been around sportsbettng for years, and I have never had from a reputable sportsbook. Whenever a book voided my bet due to the line not going their way, they went bust shortly after. On the other hand, I can see you manage your lines well and frankly, I'm quite surprised with what happened here considering your reputation.

The bottom line is, I feel I've been wronged and I'll post our dispute publicly as we're unable to come to an agreement. Surely you understand that's how things work, as I don't think you're in the sporsbook since yesterday.
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May 03, 2014, 09:19:54 PM
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Any word on Jetwin? They offered me a good bonus with imrpoved T&C. Their website looks good and functional. Lines seem good for a bitcoinbook.
No problems with them as far as payouts. The major complaint was with their rules.

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May 04, 2014, 03:18:19 AM
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They never responded to my last post, in which I questioned several things in his response to me.

I haven't looked back at the T&C, didn't realize they've improved it after my posts.
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May 04, 2014, 04:37:38 AM
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Any word on Jetwin? They offered me a good bonus with imrpoved T&C. Their website looks good and functional. Lines seem good for a bitcoinbook.
Had several withdrawals with them last month.  0.5-3 BTC, in 20-30 min.


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May 04, 2014, 04:41:23 AM
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thx guy, ill try jetwin then

Their rules are iffy but after confronting them they offered me much better terms and promised to honor their side of the deal no matter what happens.




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May 04, 2014, 04:45:28 AM
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@Peeps it really doesnt make sense to discredit dplay . Anoni confirmed the issue .


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