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Author Topic: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.  (Read 89153 times)
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July 10, 2014, 11:03:41 PM
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This is how books are rated:

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If we feel that a book is a top book, then we ask them to advertise. It only makes sense to have the top books as advertisers.

You are acknowledging here that we are a top book, because you did beg several times that we will advertise on your website.

Here is the proof :


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393147.msg7714802#msg7714802

It was only after we turned off your hustling attempts that you started discrediting us publicly.

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July 11, 2014, 04:04:54 PM
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I want to bring this to the forum before making an upgrade. Betcoinsports now qualifies for a "B" rating since they opened in April of 2013. Betcoinsports was once rated "C+" but they were downgraded to "C" because of two hiccups. In both disputes the player and Betcoinsports posted their case in this thread. Posters agreed with the player in both instances and Betcoinsports paid the players.

Betcoinsports has now revamped their software. I personally feel that Betcoinsports should be upgraded to "B-". Is there anyone that feels the upgrade is unjustified?
No one seems to have a problem with the upgrade, Betcoinsports upgraded to "B-".

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July 11, 2014, 04:06:54 PM
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"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)

"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
BetVIP D+ (2014)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D
Bitcoinlivebets D- (2013)

"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC

NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports


* longer accepting cash deposits



Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are slow paying or stiffing players

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July 11, 2014, 07:30:18 PM
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I thought you were a good book at one time. We took your banner down paying 1%. As I stated in your thread, you started the smear campaign when your banner went down.

It all started when I went over the list of your ratings criteria, one by one, and proved that in each and every category we are as good or better than Anonibet, your top rated Bitcoin Sportsbook.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448302.msg6137493#msg6137493

And so I honestly asked you why did you rate us lower ?

Just a few hours later you "suddenly" changed the ratings criteria !!! so that Anonibet can be the only Bitcoin Sportsbook with a rating of A and they were also granted the max possible rating of A, on top of all other books. Our rating on the other hand was reduced to C.

That is when it became obvious that your ratings guide is a disguised paid advertisement for Anonibet.

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July 11, 2014, 07:45:33 PM
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DirectBet- What you say are lies. The criteria was changed because that's what the posters wanted. Anonibet and Nitrogen are 1 and 2 on Ryans guide. This rating guide says the same. All guides have Anonibet and Nitrogen at top.

Ryan's ratings.
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4.3   nitrogensports.eu
4.1   anonibet.com
3.8   bitcoinlivebets.com
3.8   casinobitco.in
3.5   jetwin.com
3.3   coindrafts.com
3.3   directbet.eu


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July 11, 2014, 07:46:45 PM
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Recommended books here are rated "B-" and above.

"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)

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July 11, 2014, 08:22:44 PM
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DirectBet- What you say are lies.

I only presents the facts. I invite everyone to read the archive of this thread and see for themselves :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448302.msg6137493#msg6137493

I honestly asked you why were we rated lower than Anonibet. You couldn't explain and a few hours later you changed the ratings criteria in order to downgrade us and shut us up.

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Anonibet and Nitrogen are 1 and 2 on Ryans guide.

Yes and # 3 in Ryan's list is bitcoinlivebets.com, not far behind Anonibet.

You gave Anonibet A and bitcoinlivebets.com D-

How do you explain such a big difference between your ratings and the users ratings ?

There are two options :

1) The ratings in Ryan's thread is greatly influenced by shills accounts.

OR

2) bitcoinlivebets.com didn't pay you so you rated them D-

Which one is it ?

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July 11, 2014, 08:41:18 PM
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DirectBet- What you say are lies.

I only presents the facts. I invite everyone to read the archive of this thread and see for themselves :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448302.msg6137493#msg6137493

I honestly asked you why were we rated lower than Anonibet. You couldn't explain and a few hours later you changed the ratings criteria in order to downgrade us and shut us up.

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Anonibet and Nitrogen are 1 and 2 on Ryans guide.

Yes and # 3 in Ryan's list is bitcoinlivebets.com, not far behind Anonibet.

You gave Anonibet A and bitcoinlivebets.com D-

How do you explain such a big difference between your ratings and the users ratings ?

There are two options :

1) The ratings in Ryan's thread is greatly influenced by shills accounts.

OR

2) bitcoinlivebets.com didn't pay you so you rated them D-

Which one is it ?

I have nothing against Ryan or his ratings so I try to stay away of any criticism since it's nice to have multiple rating guides.

bitcoinlivebets is a very shaky book. They have problems on almost a daily basis and automation is never fully working. Each person has different reasons for playing at a book. I think that bitcoinlivebets is at the top of the list of the next book to go under although I hope it's not the case.

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July 11, 2014, 08:45:33 PM
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Posted concerning bitcoinlivebets https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=215014.1740

Today
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Hi,

please check the following withdraws:

118589
118621
118647
118667
118846
118895
119081
119126

im still waiting a couple of days.

And please payback 10 % of the Wettschein ID 56183


best regards

today
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Already the 11th of the month, no earnings posted for June?

today
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No live bets tonight?
Why is that?

July 2
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All right, now that your site is ok, I would like to remind you that you would check
my two bet-slips (oh, there is one more, I just see):

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Wettschein ID 54935 - kombi - abgegeben 29.06.2014, 21:53:22 Uhr
Nächstes Tor Halbzeit Alianza Lima - Juan Aurich    1    2.15
Nächstes Tor Halbzeit Alianza Lima - Juan Aurich    X    3.00

Wettschein ID 54934 - einzel - abgegeben 29.06.2014, 21:52:22 Uhr
Toranzahl over/under 2.5 Alianza Lima - Juan Aurich    Under    1.85

Wettschein ID 54933 - einzel - abgegeben 29.06.2014, 21:51:49 Uhr
Toranzahl over/under 3.5 Alianza Lima - Juan Aurich    Under    1.34

they maked it: 0:0
---------------------------------------------------------------------

And pls, settle this bet-slip from yesterday also:

Wettschein ID 55122 - kombi - abgegeben gestern, 15:25:28 Uhr
Sieg Woodlands Wellington - Young Lions - 63. Minute 0:1    2    1.80
Einsatz: 0,025000 BTC (Einsatz je Schein 0,025000 BTC), möglicher Gewinn: 0,045000 BTC

Young Lions have won: 1:3



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July 11, 2014, 08:56:24 PM
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The last book to ask posters for investments was Bit365. They went under. Bitcoinlivebets takes investments from posters.

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July 11, 2014, 09:53:26 PM
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I'm not pushing for a downgrade since forum opinion is the driving force for the the ratings.

That's another lie from Peeps Place, but unlike him, we are not just saying "you lie"... we prove it !

Today we are going to present you with another new evidence why Peeps Place is a scam.


But first we would like to make it clear that we NEVER reveal information on our clients in public, unless they go public first and spread FALSE information on DirectBet, as Peeps Place is doing.

A couple of months ago we revealed and proved for the first time that Peeps is getting paid by his top rated Sportbooks to promote them in forums.

Immediately afterwards, Peeps got upset and downgraded us from C to D in his forum (see capture below).

This is another evidence that his ratings guide is not "By the players, for the players", as Peeps is claiming, but rather "By Peeps, for the guys that pay him".

Also notice that Peeps Place, "the gold standard when it comes to rating bitcoin sportsbooks", is advising his followers in regards to DirectBet that "I wouldn't play at this shop".

What he forgot to tell them is that during the following month, he was betting frequently at DirectBet, to the point where he earned a VIP reward, a bonus that is reserved to our most loyal clients !

Peeps is lying to his own crowd !!!

Do you think that Peeps Place has the creditability to rate Bitcoin Sportbooks, given that those he rates the highest are paying him to advertise and promote them ?

Please come and vote in our thread here




LOL !!!

I replied to your above post at PeepsPlace.com where you advised your followers not to bet at DirectBet. I wrote that contrary to your advise, you were betting frequently at DirectBet during the following month, to the point where you earned a VIP reward, a bonus that is reserved to our most loyal clients.

Guess what ? My post was deleted !

That's another evidence that you are a scam.

Honest people have nothing to hide. They don't need to delete posts to cover for their lies.

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July 11, 2014, 10:53:31 PM
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I've been using Anonibet for a few days now and I'm not impressed. I had a problem with one of my plays last night and I posted in their thread and sent support a message, sent support another message about an hour ago and still no reply after about 20 hours. I've never waited more than an hour or two for a response from Betcoin or Casinobitco.in.
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July 12, 2014, 12:51:12 AM
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Anonibet finally responded and while I wasn't particularly happy with the outcome I'll give them the benefit of the doubt this time and continue to use them.

On the other hand I had a minor issue at Casinobitco.in where my open parlays weren't displaying correctly on their site. They not only communicated promptly via email but they fixed the issue and went the extra mile to make sure I was satisfied. With their favorable lines and incredible support I really don't get how they aren't ranked higher than a B-. They should be up there with Anonibet or Nitrogen at the very least.
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July 12, 2014, 12:18:26 PM
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At BetVIP - the only licensed Bitcoin sportsbook - we credit your 100% first deposit bonus up to 1 BTC INSTANTLY, no loyalty points required... Smiley

Please see our betting preview and some great tips for Day 2 of the FIFA World Cup!
http://blog.betvip.com/2014/06/wc-2014-day-2-betting-preview/

If you just can't get enough football - try our new VFL (Virtual Football League) - it's new, live and exciting Smiley
https://www.betvip.com/virtualfootball


Hi,

I would like to see more tennis matches. Small tournements. (Cfr. Bet365 ).
Also your odds on tennis would be higher.
Furthermore, I like the betVIP sportsbook!


Grtz

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July 12, 2014, 03:35:08 PM
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I personally find DirectBet the best , as it is simple to just get payments to your address as soon as a bet is completed.

On the other hand , DirectBet should not try to change the ratings of Peeps Place.
The ratings are 100% controlled by one single person.

I have no idea on how much "posters rating" affects it , nor is any clear system given.
It could probably be that 1 million poster votes bumps your book by a grade.

Any book rating site that rates books upon the whims of one individual , while claiming to take ratings from everyone (with no proof of doing so) is useless.


No longer active on bitcointalk, however, you can still reach me via PMs if needed.
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July 12, 2014, 04:10:35 PM
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Thanks for the input darkx3 and Tikk3r

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July 12, 2014, 04:16:57 PM
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I personally find DirectBet the best , as it is simple to just get payments to your address as soon as a bet is completed.

On the other hand , DirectBet should not try to change the ratings of Peeps Place.
The ratings are 100% controlled by one single person.

I have no idea on how much "posters rating" affects it , nor is any clear system given.
It could probably be that 1 million poster votes bumps your book by a grade.

Any book rating site that rates books upon the whims of one individual , while claiming to take ratings from everyone (with no proof of doing so) is useless.


This thread is much more than just ratings. Posters have helped a couple of players get paid as the dispute was brought to this thread. If any player has a problem they can also PM me and I will do what I can to help them get paid.


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July 12, 2014, 04:45:59 PM
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I'm not pushing for a downgrade since forum opinion is the driving force for the the ratings.

That's another lie from Peeps Place, but unlike him, we are not just saying "you lie"... we prove it !

Today we are going to present you with another new evidence why Peeps Place is a scam.


But first we would like to make it clear that we NEVER reveal information on our clients in public, unless they go public first and spread FALSE information on DirectBet, as Peeps Place is doing.

A couple of months ago we revealed and proved for the first time that Peeps is getting paid by his top rated Sportbooks to promote them in forums.

Immediately afterwards, Peeps got upset and downgraded us from C to D in his forum (see capture below).

This is another evidence that his ratings guide is not "By the players, for the players", as Peeps is claiming, but rather "By Peeps, for the guys that pay him".

Also notice that Peeps Place, "the gold standard when it comes to rating bitcoin sportsbooks", is advising his followers in regards to DirectBet that "I wouldn't play at this shop".

What he forgot to tell them is that during the following month, he was betting frequently at DirectBet, to the point where he earned a VIP reward, a bonus that is reserved to our most loyal clients !

Peeps is lying to his own crowd !!!

Do you think that Peeps Place has the creditability to rate Bitcoin Sportbooks, given that those he rates the highest are paying him to advertise and promote them ?

Please come and vote in our thread here




LOL !!!

I replied to your above post at PeepsPlace.com where you advised your followers not to bet at DirectBet. I wrote that contrary to your advise, you were betting frequently at DirectBet during the following month, to the point where you earned a VIP reward, a bonus that is reserved to our most loyal clients.

Guess what ? My post was deleted !

That's another evidence that you are a scam.

Honest people have nothing to hide. They don't need to delete posts to cover for their lies.
DirectBet- You were told to stop shilling your book at peepsplace. You continue to shill your book. Peepsplace forum is different than the bitcointalk forum.

My personal thoughts on DirectBet are that you are a "D" book but you do get some poster support which is why you are a "C" here at bitcointalk.

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July 12, 2014, 05:21:50 PM
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I'm not pushing for a downgrade since forum opinion is the driving force for the the ratings.

That's another lie from Peeps Place, but unlike him, we are not just saying "you lie"... we prove it !

Today we are going to present you with another new evidence why Peeps Place is a scam.


But first we would like to make it clear that we NEVER reveal information on our clients in public, unless they go public first and spread FALSE information on DirectBet, as Peeps Place is doing.

A couple of months ago we revealed and proved for the first time that Peeps is getting paid by his top rated Sportbooks to promote them in forums.

Immediately afterwards, Peeps got upset and downgraded us from C to D in his forum (see capture below).

This is another evidence that his ratings guide is not "By the players, for the players", as Peeps is claiming, but rather "By Peeps, for the guys that pay him".

Also notice that Peeps Place, "the gold standard when it comes to rating bitcoin sportsbooks", is advising his followers in regards to DirectBet that "I wouldn't play at this shop".

What he forgot to tell them is that during the following month, he was betting frequently at DirectBet, to the point where he earned a VIP reward, a bonus that is reserved to our most loyal clients !

Peeps is lying to his own crowd !!!

Do you think that Peeps Place has the creditability to rate Bitcoin Sportbooks, given that those he rates the highest are paying him to advertise and promote them ?

Please come and vote in our thread here




Peeps Place, the public want to hear from the "#1 ratings guide" :

Why were you advising players not to bet at DirectBet while at the same time you were betting there yourself frequently ?


This ratings guide is a paid advertisement !

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July 12, 2014, 10:01:25 PM
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The last book to ask posters for investments was Bit365. They went under. Bitcoinlivebets takes investments from posters.

Betting and/or "investing" at a sportsbook which seeks investors requires that one be brain dead to do this.

It's an obvious Ponzi. They need the "investments" to keep going. Why would a profitable enterprise ask bettors for investing and therefore giving away some of their profits?

Essentially, someone who "invests" in the book, and then bets there, is having their bets booked with their own money backing it up.
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