#1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.

[Rating Place]

"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)

"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
Jetwin C (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *
BetVIP C- (2014)

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D


"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC

NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports
betxcp

* longer accepting cash deposits

Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are slow paying or stiffing players

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Bitbook opens at B+

The only thing stopping Bitbook from having an "A" rating is that they have only been in existence for 10 months. The lines are identical to Pinnacle Sports at a -107 price. The only con is that rotation numbers aren't listed which is the case with many Bitcoin books.

Bitbook advertises a limit of 50 BTC. This is true in most cases although they have what's called "popular bets" where games will be limited. In most cases we still will be able to bet 3 BTC. The only delay in grading is on obscure events. Withdraws are instant and there have been no delays in payment.

No information is needed other than a username and password. This feature may someday make cash books not only unnecessary, but unwanted due to instant withdraws and anonymity of the bitcoin books.

Opened : 2013
Maximum bet : 50 BTC
Minimum bet : .001 BTC
Live betting : Yes
Sports offered : Football, baseball, basketball, hockey, MMA, soccer, tennis, e-sports, cricket and rugby.

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Cloudbet opens at C-

One of the only problems that I found with Cloudbet is that they did not respond by email. This can be frustrating to players not aware of Cloudbet's forum presence where they are courtesy and reply in a timely matter.

Cloudbet is currently offering a 100% bonus up to 5 BTC. The bonus is released gradually based upon loyalty points. Cloudbet does not move their lines based upon other bookmakers, they move according to action. Instead of moving a line off a number, as most sports books do, many times they will adjust the take back. Cloudbet offers a wide variety of sports including live betting.

Grading is automatic and deposits and withdrawals are instant. The interface is user friendly and unique. At this time, there have not been any complaints of no or slow payouts. Cloudbet would be rated higher if they were in the business longer than a little over two months.

Opened : November, 2013
Maximum bet : 50 BTC
Minimum bet : .001 BTC
Live betting : Yes
Sports offered : American football, bandy, baseball, basketball, boxing, cricket, golf, handball, hockey, MMA, rugby, soccer, tennis, volleyball, curling, skiing.

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SBObitcoin opens at "A"

SBObitcoin.com opens at an “A” rating surpassing Bitbook as the top rated place to play using bitcoins. SBObitcoin is an agent of the top sports books in the world in PinnacleSports, SBOBET and IBCBET. Players deposit bitcoins with SBObitcoin and they are then exchanged for your choice of Hong Kong dollars or Singapore dollars. The Asian dollars are then deposited into the sports book. The exchange rate of your deposits and withdraws will stay the same and not fluctuate. It takes 3-5 minutes for withdraws and six confirmations are needed for deposits. Live chat is open 24/7.

SBObitcoin has been in business for six months with bitcoin accounts and seven years overall. SBObitcoin states that they are one of the products of Ole Group Philippines Inc., and are licensed and regulated by the Government of the Philippines under First Cagayan Resort & Leisure Corporation.

There have been no reports of payout problems with SBObitcoin. Both Pinnacle Sports and SBOBET are top rated sports books in the world taking the highest wagers. Pinnacle takes the largest wagers on American sports while SBOBET takes the largest wagers in soccer. The book hold at Pinnacle is the lowest in the industry and SBOBET is not far behind.

[b!z]

http://bitcoinreviewer.com/bitcoinsports-eu-scam/

BitcoinSports.eu (Bit365) has disappeared recently along with player/investor funds.

[waylon james]

Possible problems with Bitbook

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Possible problems with Bitbook

That would be awful for the Bitcoin community since Bitbook is one of the stronger books.

[phinzphan]

do you guys settle disputes?   I made a complaint  to SBR about a  bitcoin book and they gave me nothing but blank stares.

[phinzphan]

I'll give them a few more days then I'll contact you if needed (thanks for the PM)

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Jetwin opens at “D-“


Jetwin.com is one of the few bitcoin books that requires your name, address, date of birth and phone number upon registration. The best way to describe Jetwin is by quoting some of their rules:

“The Customer hereby accepts that the Company maintains the right to demand additional information and/or documentation from the Customer in order to verify the Customer as the account holder in the event of such a security check.”

“The Company reserves the right to void any or all bets made by, and/or withhold payments payable to, any person, group of persons or legal entities acting in concert or as a syndicate to defraud the Company, pending the outcome of a subsequent investigation by the proper authorities”

“The Company reserves the right at its sole and absolute discretion without explanation given to the Customer to refuse any bet or part of any bet without explanation and/or suspend or close an account at anytime for any reason, “

“ If a Customer account is inactive for twelve consecutive (12) months or longer, the Company reserves the right to close the Customer's account with the Company and the Customer agrees to forfeit any outstanding balance and all claims against the Company”

Jetwin does not have a big forum presence, live chat or phone number. The best that can be said at this time is that there have not been any complaints on payouts.

[Rating Place]

We are currently giving a synopsis of the sports books. A complete review, including bookmaker's hold, will be done at a later time.

[adept]

CasinoBitco.in?

[quone17]

anyone have experience with Stakebtc?

[Rating Place]

How the books will be rated and weighted emphasis in order.

1. A heavy emphasis will be placed on speed of payments. Several books immediately pay out after the game has been graded. Those are the books with the least risk involved. Sweat the game, not the payout is not just a slogan. It should be a way of life for these bitcoin books. Bitcoin books have a much higher standard involved than post-up books because there are no fees involved and no need for a third party processor.

2. Grading time. Most postup books have automated grading; the winners and losers are determined minutes after the game is over. Bitcoin books that do this show that they have invested in their software. Books that rely on an individual to grade all games tend to have a high degree of risk.

3. Books not requiring personal information including an email address will be graded higher. Anonymity is a plus.

4. Date opened if less than 2 years. Bitcoin has just taken off in the past year, so it's unfair for one to compare a top bitcoin book with a post-up book like Pinnacle. But it is still important that a book shows itself to not be a flash in the pan. The longer a period of time a book has been open, the better its track record.

5. Limits. In general, the higher the limits, the deeper the bankroll of the sportsbook. If a bitcoin book takes high limits and pays out quickly, it shows its strength.

6. Sports and options offered. Uniqueness of lines and betting options is a positive.

7. Mobile betting. The ability to bet on the go can be important to some.

8. Live betting. The more, the better. Offering live betting isn't easy; the ones that do offer live betting lines tend to be stronger in general.

9. Customer service. The better the customer service, the more professional the book.

10. Interface. Ease of use is important.

11. Whether or not the book requires a deposit account. Depositing into a bitcoin book is a much bigger risk to the bettor, especially since these books have not built up a strong history that shows their staying ability.

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CasinoBitco.in?

They are going to be a "B" and we will post more about them later today.

[boosblock]

I've had very positive experiences at both casinobitco.in and more recently coinbet.cc. 

Coinbet is very new but the service has been personal and prompt.  More importantly, they paid me 5 figures within their posted time frame.  Like any new book, there are growing pains, but they have been very responsive to my suggestions and encourage feedback. 

They're worth checking out IMO.

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Anyone having problems getting paid other than with the "F" rated books?

[djarot]

If there are delays in getting paid in getting paid, please post the book and the time of the wait. Thanks

I'll keep updating the ratings up top.

SBObitcoin   A
Anonibet   A-
BitBook   B+
Casinobitcoin B
Cloudbet   C-
Jetwin D-
Betcoinlive   F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitsaloon   F

From me ..

BitBook   A
Nitrogensports   A
Cloudbet   A

[Rating Place]

boosblock - Did BTCsportsbet.eu pay you all the money that was owed? Can you explain what happened again? Thank you,

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Casinobitco.in opens at "B+"

Casinobitco.in opened in June of 2013. Casinobitco.in is located in Panama with servers in Ireland and Hong Honk. One nice added feature is that Casinobitco.in is the only bitcoin sports book to have a provably fair casino. The only thing required to register is a username and password. Casinobitco.in seems to have the same lines as 5 Dimes on American sports at a price of -107. This includes the NCAA as well as totals.  Another feature is that they have is 1st and 2nd half wagering.
 
The only con is having a 2 BTC maximum bet. The maximum does fluctuate as risk management may lower limits on popularly bet games. The owner is very receptive to player feedback and has run free, as well as pay, NFL survivor pools along with Super Bowl squares.
 
Payouts are instant and there have not been any reports of no pays. On occasion an account may be flagged which could cause a delay of 4-6 hours. Deposits are instant and do not require any confirmations. Overall this is one of the best bitcoin books and is only some time away from being an “A” book.
 
Opened : 2013
Maximum bet: 2 BTC
Minimum bet : .001
Sports offered : Football, basketball, baseball, tennis, MMA, boxing and soccer.