[ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com

[Planethill]

Singapore server is online: stratum+tcp://asia.clevermining.com:3333

any plans for an useast server ? please

Please!  +1

[pengoau]

Singapore server is online: stratum+tcp://asia.clevermining.com:3333

Thank you, switched to it successfully.

[Ritual]

Just a comment about profitability. Remember that its not just determined by how well other altcoin are performing against LTC but it also highly depends on the LTC/BTC exchange rate. We get paid in BTC not LTC after all. On march 3 the exchange rate was .0205.  Today its .02529.  Thats a 23% decrease in profits right there! Also the prices of both LTC and BTC have increased in the past few days. If the graphs displayed were in $/MH/day things would nearly look so bad.

That's a more than fair observation, to which my answer is:

Can we be paid in LTC if we choose please? I asked this about 40 pages ago on this thread and was told "maybe". Personally, I would like to stock up on LTC, and while I can trade BTC to it, I prefer not to pay the fees if I can avoid it - I am a very small miner (700 KHash) and this matters to me.

Rit.

EDIT: And yes I know I would receive the same payout I just would like to HODL LTC at the moment.

hoLD

same here

I meant what I said and I said what I meant!

HODL!!!!!

[chilin_dude]

Any ETA on when people that need accounts merged will be fixed?  I've kept mining since I like this pool, but my stashed bitcoins is getting up there (well for my meager hash-power).  No pressure just curious for a word.

[2]

no payouts yet for me too.

what is the point of mining if you cant get paid ?

You are a right self-entitled cunt.
First you say clevermining is freezing payouts, when in fact YOU made a mistake, not once do you then acknowledge or even say sorry for false accusations. Then you go on twitter and complain about the fact that it hasn't been fixed yet, be patient, you were the one that fucked up!

[klondike_bar]

I went from 5-8% rejected in the last few hours to suddenly having a ~25% reject rate over the last hour.

anybody else have this? Its almost entirely "rejected untracked stratum share" warnings and not actually rejects associated with any specific GPU

[Terk]

I went from 5-8% rejected in the last few hours to suddenly having a ~25% reject rate over the last hour.

anybody else have this? Its almost entirely "rejected untracked stratum share" warnings and not actually rejects associated with any specific GPU

This is some kind of wrong interpretation of messages sent by the pool by cgminer/sgminer and they probably aren't really rejected. The numbers next to your GPUs are correct.

[Terk]

I will be manually handling high unexchanged balances and address corrections first thing tomorrow morning. I'm sorry for the delay.

[klondike_bar]

I went from 5-8% rejected in the last few hours to suddenly having a ~25% reject rate over the last hour.

anybody else have this? Its almost entirely "rejected untracked stratum share" warnings and not actually rejects associated with any specific GPU

This is some kind of wrong interpretation of messages sent by the pool by cgminer/sgminer and they probably aren't really rejected. The numbers next to your GPUs are correct.

okay - thanks for the quick response. In the last 25min Ive had an average of 25% reject rate according to the top row (not the GPU stats) of cgminer and in cgwatcher

looks like my hashrate at the pool is dead-on though and zero reject rate now.... so if thats the real stats then I am very happy.
 
2.074 Mhash/s across a quad-270X setup (2 cards are reading just under 525khash!

[chadwickx16]

Terk, I just want to say thank you for your incredible hard work!! My rejects were cut in half with the launch of the new regional servers. I love your pool, and since I found it I have been mining here. Keep up the good work!

[Neon001]

the fact you impose arbitrary standards on this pool also seems to have glossed by your attention.  

I'm failing to see how it's arbitrary to say that the vast majority of pools charge 1% or less.  It's quite objective, and in no part arbitrary.

argumentum ad populum.  the vast majority of people on earth don't know what a bitcoin is.  ergo, bitcoin is worthless?

It's quite objective, and in no part arbitrary.

because why?  because you've declared it objective? where's your data? it's your fucking opinion that 2% is too high, you cheapskate.

Lets use an analogy then.  You can go to any number of online financial brokerages (Etrade and the like) and pay $10 a trade.  You can go to a financial advisor to do the same thing and provide you some advice while he's at it for $25 a trade.  When you're trading $5000 worth of securities at a time, it seems like a pittance either way, but the latter is still a LOT more expensive, relatively speaking.

so by your standard, a 0% pool should be best? sometimes you get what you pay for.  

pool operators should aim for sustainability, not a race to the bottom for pool fees.  

Just...wow.  You need a lot of work on reading comprehension.  Please quote the one place where I said 2% is "too high".   I guess you must've missed:

I'm not saying it's expensive, but to call it virtually free is just flat wrong.  2% isn't much overall, but perspective and opportunity cost need to play a role in where to point your hashes to.

Secondly, how are you too fucking stupid to understand what "industry standard" is?  It's *objective* because it's very easy to prove, not because I've declared it so.  You want data?  Here's some:

http://www.doktorrf.com/dogecoin/pools.html

It's a trivial exercise to look at that site and say that exactly 9 of the >55 pools on the list that charge anything more than 1%.  In point of fact, *26* of them charge nothing.  This list could very easily be assumed to be representative of the entire mining pool community, since many/most of the pools listed there host other coin pools as well.  

The FACT is that this pool charges more than most.  I'm not saying that it's too expensive.  In fact I've said the opposite.  Get the fuck off my back.

[nem2k]

n00b question: when checking rejects in cgminer do you look at the R value at the top next to your average overall hashrate? or the R value next to the GPU? because in my case these numbers are drastically different (50% reject vs 2%)

I assume its the per card rate, but is there a reason why I'm getting 50% in the top number?

[jasdace]

n00b question: when checking rejects in cgminer do you look at the R value at the top next to your average overall hashrate? or the R value next to the GPU? because in my case these numbers are drastically different (50% reject vs 2%)

I assume its the per card rate, but is there a reason why I'm getting 50% in the top number?

Your GPU values are the correct values.  The other R is counting Untracked Rejected Shares as well.  Read Terk's explanation a few pages back (p.108).

Cheers.

[ashfallen0]

I'd like to +1 the idea of either/and/checkbox for "AVERAGE" or "MEDIAN" numbers on the user stats charts.  I know it's likely down near the bottom of your TODO list Terk, but my excel does this and gives me that mentally, but visually might give the teeming masses some peace of mind .

Also,
I know that 80+ pages back there was mention of the vardiff being something other than 512; with the fast, low diff coins that are in the mixture, 512 is way too large. When is that going to get a look back in? I don't necessarily need a user configurable worksize, but wouldn't it be an easy fix to the system to select a pool worksize commensurate with the speed and difficulty of the coin being mined? All the rejects I get are "job not found" rejects which I don't know what you did with your hack of the backend, but that appears to be the same as the normal error you get when submitting a stale share when the block has changed, just without the hash codes to indicate which job.

To all of you who are whining on about profits:
Middlecoin:     0.0093 BTC/MH over 50 Days
Clevermining: 0.0112 BTC/MH over 30 Days
 
Thanks for the great work Terk!

[Munashiimaru]

I will be manually handling high unexchanged balances and address corrections first thing tomorrow morning. I'm sorry for the delay.

Thanks for the heads up ^.^

[elpsycongro]

I will be manually handling high unexchanged balances and address corrections first thing tomorrow morning. I'm sorry for the delay.

Thanks for the heads up ^.^

Looking forward to it, the unexchanged will make a nice bonus 

[bal3wolf]

I will be manually handling high unexchanged balances and address corrections first thing tomorrow morning. I'm sorry for the delay.

Hope its soon my Total Expected has droped from 0.023 to 0.0185 over the last 2 days almost 3 without any payout i had to switch pools so i could get payouts to change over while coins are at a high price.

[Terk]

I think I know what was causing the “rejected untracked share” error message and I fixed it.

Some miners ask stratum server for transaction list for a mined block. This is unnecessary in stratum protocol as stratum was designed to be able to work without sending the whole transaction list to miners and only sending hashed merkle root. The pool software responded with an error to this get_transaction request and miners were detecting this error as rejected share, but as it wasn't really a rejected share it couldn't match job id with any jobs that were sent so it didn't put it in GPU stats. It still included it in the overall stats at the top.

I changed the error message and error code which is returned for get_transactions and I hope cgminer/sgminer will recognise this response correctly.

If you experienced this issue before, please let me know if this has changed.

[jasdace]

I just restarted sgminer 4.1.0 on win8.1

the untracked errors are still being counted.

 

[inedenimadam]

I just restarted sgminer 4.1.0 on win8.1

the untracked errors are still being counted.

 

I second this, rejected untracked at roughly 1:1 to accepted, true reject around 2-3% from Atlanta Ga to Oregon server.

[Terk]

Did you reset the stats?