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April 02, 2014, 03:41:31 PM
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I understand honesty is hard in crypto. That's why when we found this exploit the FIRST thing i did was find the dev's contact details. You do not want to see the replies. Contact your dev's and demand a fix.



actually we DO wanna see the replies. Just post them here. That way you could provide proof that you've done as you told us. Thank you!
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April 02, 2014, 03:43:26 PM
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yes I agree it wasn't as bad as what happened with blackcoins fork when alot of people lost blackcoins


If you would read up on that you'd know the loss of Blackcoin on Cryptorush has nothing to do with the fork that we made.
It has to do with Cryptorush using the getbalance accounts system that is inherently broken: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Accounts_explained#Account_Weaknesses.



Well it looks like mint was the main coin our good friends were trying to find vulnerabilities with. Wouldn't this effect your coin?

It affects a range of PoW/PoS hybrids I suspect, rat4 looked at mint only right now. If this is possible for Mint then any forks from Mint will have the same issue. If the coin where mint is forked from did not address it it'll too have this vulnerability.

You attacked to kill the coin, couldnt do it. Thats the fact.
mint have never forked, your coin already has.

Developers and coin holders, attacking other coins. not good for crypto.

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April 02, 2014, 03:44:34 PM
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I understand honesty is hard in crypto. That's why when we found this exploit the FIRST thing i did was find the dev's contact details. You do not want to see the replies. Contact your dev's and demand a fix.



actually we DO wanna see the replies. Just post them here. That way you could provide proof that you've done as you told us. Thank you!

+1

I do wanna see the replies.  If the MINT devs are incompetent douchebags, I wanna know.
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April 02, 2014, 03:46:22 PM
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It's no longer theoretical it's actually happened.

I didn't notice anything, what exactly is supposed to have happened? Was there a successful double spend?

For about an hour they were able to stop minting completely.  If this can be sustained this is just another coin without any value since our biggest selling point is minting.  And since I don't know anything about development, I don't know what else can be done with this attack.

But this isn't even the issue, due to the lack of dev responses I don't even believe they are too involved in this coin.  This threat was posted 3 days ago, more then enough time to read through it real quickly to determine if it was FUD or not.  Due to the timestamps, I can't tell you how long the bugs been posted or how long ago the attack was.

The real issue is, how they address future problems.  Do we have to wait another 3 days and a successful attack before we see anything?
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April 02, 2014, 03:49:33 PM
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as all of you guys know I'm a MINT fan from the start. after reading the posts the last day I decided to sell half my MINT. im on a fixed budget and i sold 1,000,000MINT. just keeping it in BTC at mintpal. if the MINT dev came on and to respond to this attack and has a fix im would buy back my million even if it shoot up 5-6 points.


but i still dont see any MINT dev,top people respond here. i dont check other forums or sites for MINT. i go to this thread.





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April 02, 2014, 03:52:37 PM
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It's no longer theoretical it's actually happened.

I didn't notice anything, what exactly is supposed to have happened? Was there a successful double spend?

For about an hour they were able to stop minting completely.  If this can be sustained this is just another coin without any value since our biggest selling point is minting.  And since I don't know anything about development, I don't know what else can be done with this attack.

But this isn't even the issue, due to the lack of dev responses I don't even believe they are too involved in this coin.  This threat was posted 3 days ago, more then enough time to read through it real quickly to determine if it was FUD or not.  Due to the timestamps, I can't tell you how long the bugs been posted or how long ago the attack was.

The real issue is, how they address future problems.  Do we have to wait another 3 days and a successful attack before we see anything?

It seems as if they haven't been concerned with the issue and if minting was stopped for an hour how much did it cost the attackers to do that?

As gonzoucab pointed out there was an attack but it seems to have failed without even a fork. I don't really understand the technical details but there is really not much there that I can go on except objective evidence of a doublespend or something of the sort.

If it kills the coin then so be it, but I'm not listening to rumours and innuendo on the internet. Posting supposed email responses doesn't mean a thing because they are easily faked.
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April 02, 2014, 03:54:23 PM
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It's no longer theoretical it's actually happened.

I didn't notice anything, what exactly is supposed to have happened? Was there a successful double spend?

For about an hour they were able to stop minting completely.  If this can be sustained this is just another coin without any value since our biggest selling point is minting.  And since I don't know anything about development, I don't know what else can be done with this attack.

But this isn't even the issue, due to the lack of dev responses I don't even believe they are too involved in this coin.  This threat was posted 3 days ago, more then enough time to read through it real quickly to determine if it was FUD or not.  Due to the timestamps, I can't tell you how long the bugs been posted or how long ago the attack was.

The real issue is, how they address future problems.  Do we have to wait another 3 days and a successful attack before we see anything?

It seems as if they haven't been concerned with the issue and if minting was stopped for an hour how much did it cost the attackers to do that?

As gonzoucab pointed out there was an attack but it seems to have failed without even a fork. I don't really understand the technical details but there is really not much there that I can go on except objective evidence of a doublespend or something of the sort.

If it kills the coin then so be it, but I'm not listening to rumours and innuendo on the internet. Posting supposed email responses doesn't mean a thing because they are easily faked.

The attack was made using a multipool.
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April 02, 2014, 03:54:43 PM
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^ Nothing has been faked. Look it up on the block explorer of mintcoin and you can see for 1 hour all blocks were switch to proof of work only.

Keep screaming fake whilst smart people tell mintcoin dev to fix it.



I understand honesty is hard in crypto. That's why when we found this exploit the FIRST thing i did was find the dev's contact details. You do not want to see the replies. Contact your dev's and demand a fix.



actually we DO wanna see the replies. Just post them here. That way you could provide proof that you've done as you told us. Thank you!

+1

I do wanna see the replies.  If the MINT devs are incompetent douchebags, I wanna know.

+2.

MINT dev is hiding.

So far all we hear from are champion fudsters mgburks77 and moderndezigns who live in the blackcoin topic trying to spread lies abt blackcoin to desperately protect their mintcoin bags. These fools should be THANKING the blackcoin dev right now.

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April 02, 2014, 03:55:56 PM
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It's no longer theoretical it's actually happened.

I didn't notice anything, what exactly is supposed to have happened? Was there a successful double spend?

For about an hour they were able to stop minting completely.  If this can be sustained this is just another coin without any value since our biggest selling point is minting.  And since I don't know anything about development, I don't know what else can be done with this attack.

But this isn't even the issue, due to the lack of dev responses I don't even believe they are too involved in this coin.  This threat was posted 3 days ago, more then enough time to read through it real quickly to determine if it was FUD or not.  Due to the timestamps, I can't tell you how long the bugs been posted or how long ago the attack was.

The real issue is, how they address future problems.  Do we have to wait another 3 days and a successful attack before we see anything?

It seems as if they haven't been concerned with the issue and if minting was stopped for an hour how much did it cost the attackers to do that?

As gonzoucab pointed out there was an attack but it seems to have failed without even a fork. I don't really understand the technical details but there is really not much there that I can go on except objective evidence of a doublespend or something of the sort.

If it kills the coin then so be it, but I'm not listening to rumours and innuendo on the internet. Posting supposed email responses doesn't mean a thing because they are easily faked.

We did not fork the coin as we did not want to. We could have and then you'd be blaming us for breaking your coin.


As for the mails with the mintcoin devs (the e-mail address provided in the OP)

http://imgur.com/9rIkQWw


Also, the attack used 3x 3.5Mh/s rigs. I think we could've pulled it off with less.

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April 02, 2014, 03:57:33 PM
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^ Nothing has been faked. Look it up on the block explorer of mintcoin and you can see for 1 hour all blocks were switch to proof of work only.

Keep screaming fake whilst smart people tell mintcoin dev to fix it.



I understand honesty is hard in crypto. That's why when we found this exploit the FIRST thing i did was find the dev's contact details. You do not want to see the replies. Contact your dev's and demand a fix.



actually we DO wanna see the replies. Just post them here. That way you could provide proof that you've done as you told us. Thank you!

+1

I do wanna see the replies.  If the MINT devs are incompetent douchebags, I wanna know.


+2.

MINT dev is hiding.

So far all we hear from are champion fudsters mgburks77 and moderndezigns who live in the blackcoin topic trying to spread lies abt blackcoin to desperately protect their mintcoin bags. These fools should be THANKING the blackcoin dev right now.



Thanks dev =)
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April 02, 2014, 03:59:48 PM
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It's no longer theoretical it's actually happened.

I didn't notice anything, what exactly is supposed to have happened? Was there a successful double spend?

For about an hour they were able to stop minting completely.  If this can be sustained this is just another coin without any value since our biggest selling point is minting.  And since I don't know anything about development, I don't know what else can be done with this attack.

But this isn't even the issue, due to the lack of dev responses I don't even believe they are too involved in this coin.  This threat was posted 3 days ago, more then enough time to read through it real quickly to determine if it was FUD or not.  Due to the timestamps, I can't tell you how long the bugs been posted or how long ago the attack was.

The real issue is, how they address future problems.  Do we have to wait another 3 days and a successful attack before we see anything?

It seems as if they haven't been concerned with the issue and if minting was stopped for an hour how much did it cost the attackers to do that?

As gonzoucab pointed out there was an attack but it seems to have failed without even a fork. I don't really understand the technical details but there is really not much there that I can go on except objective evidence of a doublespend or something of the sort.

If it kills the coin then so be it, but I'm not listening to rumours and innuendo on the internet. Posting supposed email responses doesn't mean a thing because they are easily faked.

We did not fork the coin as we did not want to. We could have and then you'd be blaming us for breaking your coin.


As for the mails with the mintcoin devs (the e-mail address provided in the OP)

http://imgur.com/9rIkQWw


Also, the attack used 3x 3.5Mh/s rigs. I think we could've pulled it off with less.

thank you for the image. could you please provide the rest of the conversation? it stops at "to fix the issue at hand"
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April 02, 2014, 04:00:42 PM
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mgburks77 and moderndezigns who live in the blackcoin topic

I've posted there maybe 15-20 times over the last several weeks and I hold BC so I don't see the problem.
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April 02, 2014, 04:01:20 PM
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It's no longer theoretical it's actually happened.

I didn't notice anything, what exactly is supposed to have happened? Was there a successful double spend?

For about an hour they were able to stop minting completely.  If this can be sustained this is just another coin without any value since our biggest selling point is minting.  And since I don't know anything about development, I don't know what else can be done with this attack.

But this isn't even the issue, due to the lack of dev responses I don't even believe they are too involved in this coin.  This threat was posted 3 days ago, more then enough time to read through it real quickly to determine if it was FUD or not.  Due to the timestamps, I can't tell you how long the bugs been posted or how long ago the attack was.

The real issue is, how they address future problems.  Do we have to wait another 3 days and a successful attack before we see anything?

It seems as if they haven't been concerned with the issue and if minting was stopped for an hour how much did it cost the attackers to do that?

As gonzoucab pointed out there was an attack but it seems to have failed without even a fork. I don't really understand the technical details but there is really not much there that I can go on except objective evidence of a doublespend or something of the sort.

If it kills the coin then so be it, but I'm not listening to rumours and innuendo on the internet. Posting supposed email responses doesn't mean a thing because they are easily faked.

We did not fork the coin as we did not want to. We could have and then you'd be blaming us for breaking your coin.


As for the mails with the mintcoin devs (the e-mail address provided in the OP)

http://imgur.com/9rIkQWw


Also, the attack used 3x 3.5Mh/s rigs. I think we could've pulled it off with less.

thank you for the image. could you please provide the rest of the conversation? it stops at "to fix the issue at hand"

That is all we got. We have not gotten a reply back since the 'How is it an attack?'.

A serious dev would not even ask this.

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April 02, 2014, 04:03:12 PM
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wait mint go up again

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April 02, 2014, 04:07:24 PM
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It's no longer theoretical it's actually happened.

I didn't notice anything, what exactly is supposed to have happened? Was there a successful double spend?

For about an hour they were able to stop minting completely.  If this can be sustained this is just another coin without any value since our biggest selling point is minting.  And since I don't know anything about development, I don't know what else can be done with this attack.

But this isn't even the issue, due to the lack of dev responses I don't even believe they are too involved in this coin.  This threat was posted 3 days ago, more then enough time to read through it real quickly to determine if it was FUD or not.  Due to the timestamps, I can't tell you how long the bugs been posted or how long ago the attack was.

The real issue is, how they address future problems.  Do we have to wait another 3 days and a successful attack before we see anything?

It seems as if they haven't been concerned with the issue and if minting was stopped for an hour how much did it cost the attackers to do that?

As gonzoucab pointed out there was an attack but it seems to have failed without even a fork. I don't really understand the technical details but there is really not much there that I can go on except objective evidence of a doublespend or something of the sort.

If it kills the coin then so be it, but I'm not listening to rumours and innuendo on the internet. Posting supposed email responses doesn't mean a thing because they are easily faked.

We did not fork the coin as we did not want to. We could have and then you'd be blaming us for breaking your coin.


As for the mails with the mintcoin devs (the e-mail address provided in the OP)

http://imgur.com/9rIkQWw


Also, the attack used 3x 3.5Mh/s rigs. I think we could've pulled it off with less.

thank you for the image. could you please provide the rest of the conversation? it stops at "to fix the issue at hand"

That is all we got. We have not gotten a reply back since the 'How is it an attack?'.

A serious dev would not even ask this.

Holy crap that is bad. He asked how is it an attack? I am just a hobby programmer and I understood how it's an attack in 15 seconds.

Mintcoin dev is a copy paste dev that doesn't understand the basics?
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April 02, 2014, 04:09:30 PM
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guys, thank for the efforts. but i do think, that such an issue will be easily fixed by the developers. as provided in the other thread there are a couple of solutions for an easy fix. so i think we just need to relax and calm down. no coin is broken.
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April 02, 2014, 04:10:52 PM
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Hey sargecap welcome to the mintcoin forum
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April 02, 2014, 04:12:30 PM
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guys, thank for the efforts. but i do think, that such an issue will be easily fixed by the developers. as provided in the other thread there are a couple of solutions for an easy fix. so i think we just need to relax and calm down. no coin is broken.

Yes, the devs can easily address this.

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April 02, 2014, 04:23:29 PM
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guys, thank for the efforts. but i do think, that such an issue will be easily fixed by the developers. as provided in the other thread there are a couple of solutions for an easy fix. so i think we just need to relax and calm down. no coin is broken.

Yes, the devs can easily address this.

lol they cannot even respond in this thread.  asking them to FIX this this is a lost cause. they do not care enough to even make an attempt to clarify the situation.
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April 02, 2014, 04:25:30 PM
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apparently they think it isn't an issue, can we get on with the doublespend attack now all of this talk is getting lame.
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