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January 31, 2017, 01:06:44 PM
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https://twitter.com/CoinBlack/status/826370972643057664
What is this? What is going on with Polo? Can anyone confirm otherwise?

Everything starts with small talks and when happened it is too late to get out. That is why we need decentralisation,
and  projects such as NightTrader. I love to trade but i would better sleep if private keys are in my possession.
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January 31, 2017, 01:08:09 PM
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https://twitter.com/CoinBlack/status/826370972643057664
What is this? What is going on with Polo? Can anyone confirm otherwise?

Everything starts with small talks and when happened it is too late to get out. That is why we need decentralisation,
and  projects such as NightTrader. I love to trade but i would better sleep if private keys are in my possession.

ditto ...

decentralization for most things like this is the way to go - for stability at least ...

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January 31, 2017, 01:32:44 PM
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https://twitter.com/CoinBlack/status/826370972643057664
What is this? What is going on with Polo? Can anyone confirm otherwise?

Everything starts with small talks and when happened it is too late to get out. That is why we need decentralisation,
and  projects such as NightTrader. I love to trade but i would better sleep if private keys are in my possession.

Right NightTrader can be a microtrader but it would trade live coins and require users to buy Blackcoin to set up a double deposit contract. This is why it is something I'm hesitant to finish. Since the time it would take to set up that contract (a few minutes) and the amount of trades required per trade (10-20 transactions) and the fact that Bitcoin transactions are expensive IF you want it in a block (several dollars per trade) and the amount you would put in a deposit in BLK (at least 20% collateral)

All of it makes me worried that 1000 hours of coding the user interface charting and fail safes and ability to check any blockchain would be in vain if nobody used it. Guys, I always try to keep my promises to myself and others. We have decentralized exchange already, but it might not be worth additional effort for the pretty UI and dedicated nodes for fast order matching if nobody wants to deal with the slow trading.


In theory you can ALREADY do microtrading in BlackHalo. Its just you will have a hard time finding trade partners. People want speed, marketing, muscle. Without fast trading, we get low volume.


This is why atomic trading is actually a little more exciting. The only problem with AT means that NightTrader will not be exclusive to Blackcoin anymore since the double deposit would be unnecessary.

Also AT still requires you to clear all your orders live. Thats a lot of transactions added to the already slow Bitcoin. Again, I'm not sure people will even wait for AT orders to confirm on Bitcoin blockchain (because AT can't be done in one transaction). Again, if I build out NightTrader as an AT exchange those are the drawbacks.
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January 31, 2017, 04:58:33 PM
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This is why atomic trading is actually a little more exciting. The only problem with AT means that NightTrader will not be exclusive to Blackcoin anymore since the double deposit would be unnecessary.

Why is important for Black coin to be "exclusive" on AT? You can create system where exchange can be in for example 3 modes, starter - trader needs 1000blk as deposit - ticket, fish - trader 5k blk and whale 20k blk. And all this can be adjusted in according of btc price.  I bealive this model was used for quatloo coin, this way you will get exclusivity for BLK.
My thoughts if atomic trader is best solution..
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February 05, 2017, 06:09:38 AM
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Rat4, are you okay? I hope you can appear here, the Chinese blackcoin community a lot of people want to know your message.

I'm alive and hope to resolve my real-life problems this summer.

Of course it will. As long as our russian developer RAT4 is not high on Vodka.

Currently I may not drink vodka.


Glad to still have your message and hope you are in good health. Do not worry about trifles

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Blackcoin are still not strong enough, when you have free time please take care of it.


I'm marketing blackcoin on the Chinese network.Gradually active.



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February 05, 2017, 06:29:28 AM
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When will Blackhalo be finished? I'm also interested to know who are the members of dev team, and maybe Slack Invitation wont harm? I will put all on Black this time, already i can feel small of victory. For so long this was very undervalued coin.  We all together can contribute to this project, positivity is also very helpfull!

BlackHalo has been working for years. It was the worlds first smart contracting software (years before Ethereum) and it was the worlds first decentralized markets. Although people don't use the markets, they certainly work. It is integrated with BitHalo and you can switch coins at the click of a button. There are a few templates left to work on and staking but other than that, the client has been functional for years. It translates to 92 languages, has "pay to email" with steganography and like 100 other little features. Honestly I'm not sure why everyone doesn't use it. It should have replaced localbitcoins due to trustless p2p cash deals since there is no arbiter required (double deposit). It even has a price tracker in the cash for coins template so you don't have to chase market price. It can be used as a decentralized exchange. Just download it and see for yourself. I'm sure some of the guys on slack will walk you through a demo contract. As for devs there is  rat4, myself (3+ years and counting I'm the only dev working on BlackHalo), Janko who I think has also been here since the beginning, and maybe a couple others.

www.blackhalo.info




Hello, dzimbeck, BlackHalo is great. When the blackcoin of the ecosystem strong, people know the existence of BlackHalo, they will use. Now the blackcoin of the ecosystem is still small. Many people just buy or sell blackcoin.

Please believe me, the market potential is very large.


I am marketing blackcoin in china, the situation is improving.
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February 05, 2017, 06:38:21 AM
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Rat4, are you okay? I hope you can appear here, the Chinese blackcoin community a lot of people want to know your message.


I am preparing to make a video of the marketing blackcoin, can I use your photos? and your information?

How is Chinese bagholders going? People screwed by the fake pump in mintpal, many bagholders hurt and left crypto world. R.I.P BLK.



For a long time, China did not have any blackcoin in the news, nor any marketing.
No one initiative to promote the blackcoin.

Now I am marketing the blackcoin on the Chinese network.


China has 700 million Internet users, But very few people know digital currency , and very few people know the blackcoin.

My marketing is very effective. QQ group is now very active.

There will be more and more blackcoin users.Trust me.
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February 05, 2017, 09:27:46 PM
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When will Blackhalo be finished? I'm also interested to know who are the members of dev team, and maybe Slack Invitation wont harm? I will put all on Black this time, already i can feel small of victory. For so long this was very undervalued coin.  We all together can contribute to this project, positivity is also very helpfull!

BlackHalo has been working for years. It was the worlds first smart contracting software (years before Ethereum) and it was the worlds first decentralized markets. Although people don't use the markets, they certainly work. It is integrated with BitHalo and you can switch coins at the click of a button. There are a few templates left to work on and staking but other than that, the client has been functional for years. It translates to 92 languages, has "pay to email" with steganography and like 100 other little features. Honestly I'm not sure why everyone doesn't use it. It should have replaced localbitcoins due to trustless p2p cash deals since there is no arbiter required (double deposit). It even has a price tracker in the cash for coins template so you don't have to chase market price. It can be used as a decentralized exchange. Just download it and see for yourself. I'm sure some of the guys on slack will walk you through a demo contract. As for devs there is  rat4, myself (3+ years and counting I'm the only dev working on BlackHalo), Janko who I think has also been here since the beginning, and maybe a couple others.

www.blackhalo.info




Hello, dzimbeck, BlackHalo is great. When the blackcoin of the ecosystem strong, people know the existence of BlackHalo, they will use. Now the blackcoin of the ecosystem is still small. Many people just buy or sell blackcoin.

Please believe me, the market potential is very large.


I am marketing blackcoin in china, the situation is improving.


You know BlackHalo translates to Chinese right? It's one of the only clients that even features a chinese version.

And yeah for NightTrader it doesn't have to be BLK exclusive. Obviously the world needs a real decentralized exchange. I've thought about AT and Microtrade as a backup. However one needs to be built before the other.

We shall see, I'm finishing up all the templates as of right now. The next version will have time locks supported in the user interface and voting as well. So I'm going to finish all the features and then see if we can get enough active users.
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February 06, 2017, 06:32:03 AM
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Is there any updates with this coin?

Black halo looked so promsing, but have not heard much since.

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February 06, 2017, 06:42:06 AM
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Is there any updates with this coin?

Black halo looked so promsing, but have not heard much since.

Back in the day, yeah.  All the next generation ICO's changed the landscape.  They're getting all the limelight and the money.  

Anyway, dzimbeck, I'm dropping by here to ask what is different about Blackcoin's POS compared NXT's POS.  I'm thinking of investing in Qtum's ICO (I know, I know, I'll be careful), and I see in their ANN thread that they will be using code based on Bitcoin Core 0.13 and use that to create a POS platform based on Blackcoin's POS 3.0.  Is that even possible?  And what's the big deal with BC's POS 3.0?

Thanks.

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February 06, 2017, 05:35:07 PM
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Is there any updates with this coin?

Black halo looked so promsing, but have not heard much since.

Back in the day, yeah.  All the next generation ICO's changed the landscape.  They're getting all the limelight and the money.  

Anyway, dzimbeck, I'm dropping by here to ask what is different about Blackcoin's POS compared NXT's POS.  I'm thinking of investing in Qtum's ICO (I know, I know, I'll be careful), and I see in their ANN thread that they will be using code based on Bitcoin Core 0.13 and use that to create a POS platform based on Blackcoin's POS 3.0.  Is that even possible?  And what's the big deal with BC's POS 3.0?

Thanks.

Bitcoin Core 0.13 is very new, there's no need to go with bleeding edge. Blackcoin has been already moved to bitcoin core 0.12(is running in production and can bee seen in explorers like this one https://chainz.cryptoid.info/blk/#!network .

There is no risk here, more stability and you won't miss anything they have in 0.13 too.
Core will backport everything to 0.12 (they have been already doing it.. https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/c1b7421781b7a53485c6db4a6005a80e32267c9f )

BC POS 3.0 has to be done correctly, coins that claim to implement it, have done their version of POS 3.0 not the BC one, deviations can be easily seen in their code..

..by the way.. where's the Qtum source? The link they provided doesn't work.

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February 07, 2017, 05:11:38 AM
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Is there any updates with this coin?

Black halo looked so promsing, but have not heard much since.

Back in the day, yeah.  All the next generation ICO's changed the landscape.  They're getting all the limelight and the money.  

Anyway, dzimbeck, I'm dropping by here to ask what is different about Blackcoin's POS compared NXT's POS.  I'm thinking of investing in Qtum's ICO (I know, I know, I'll be careful), and I see in their ANN thread that they will be using code based on Bitcoin Core 0.13 and use that to create a POS platform based on Blackcoin's POS 3.0.  Is that even possible?  And what's the big deal with BC's POS 3.0?

Thanks.

Bitcoin Core 0.13 is very new, there's no need to go with bleeding edge. Blackcoin has been already moved to bitcoin core 0.12(is running in production and can bee seen in explorers like this one https://chainz.cryptoid.info/blk/#!network .

What do you mean by Blackcoin has already been moved to Bitcoin Core 0.12?  I have no idea what you're talking about, unless you don't too.  Well then, touche!  Cheesy

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There is no risk here, more stability and you won't miss anything they have in 0.13 too.
Core will backport everything to 0.12 (they have been already doing it.. https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/c1b7421781b7a53485c6db4a6005a80e32267c9f )

BC POS 3.0 has to be done correctly, coins that claim to implement it, have done their version of POS 3.0 not the BC one, deviations can be easily seen in their code..

I want answers as to what are the differences in NXT's POS and Blackcoin's POS 3.0 and what makes it special.  I guess I'll have to wait for dzimbeck to get back and explain.

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..by the way.. where's the Qtum source? The link they provided doesn't work.


It will be available around March I think.

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February 07, 2017, 06:35:56 AM
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This dude has been shilling BLK  non stop on twitter  Grin


https://twitter.com/JoshuaJBouw

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February 07, 2017, 09:59:44 AM
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This dude has been shilling BLK  non stop on twitter  Grin


https://twitter.com/JoshuaJBouw

That is me and I have been in this since the beginning. Back from a hiatus. I remember you =P.
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That is me and I have been in this since the beginning. Back from a hiatus. I remember you =P.
I remember you were at Urose Event with Bohan Huang from URO COIN? Do you have that video and can you upload it somewhere please?  By the way you were out from BLK for some time, what happened with you then?
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February 07, 2017, 05:56:33 PM
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Is there any updates with this coin?

Black halo looked so promsing, but have not heard much since.

Back in the day, yeah.  All the next generation ICO's changed the landscape.  They're getting all the limelight and the money.  

Anyway, dzimbeck, I'm dropping by here to ask what is different about Blackcoin's POS compared NXT's POS.  I'm thinking of investing in Qtum's ICO (I know, I know, I'll be careful), and I see in their ANN thread that they will be using code based on Bitcoin Core 0.13 and use that to create a POS platform based on Blackcoin's POS 3.0.  Is that even possible?  And what's the big deal with BC's POS 3.0?

Thanks.

Bitcoin Core 0.13 is very new, there's no need to go with bleeding edge. Blackcoin has been already moved to bitcoin core 0.12(is running in production and can bee seen in explorers like this one https://chainz.cryptoid.info/blk/#!network .

What do you mean by Blackcoin has already been moved to Bitcoin Core 0.12?  I have no idea what you're talking about, unless you don't too.  Well then, touche!  Cheesy

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There is no risk here, more stability and you won't miss anything they have in 0.13 too.
Core will backport everything to 0.12 (they have been already doing it.. https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/c1b7421781b7a53485c6db4a6005a80e32267c9f )

BC POS 3.0 has to be done correctly, coins that claim to implement it, have done their version of POS 3.0 not the BC one, deviations can be easily seen in their code..

I want answers as to what are the differences in NXT's POS and Blackcoin's POS 3.0 and what makes it special.  I guess I'll have to wait for dzimbeck to get back and explain.

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..by the way.. where's the Qtum source? The link they provided doesn't work.


It will be available around March I think.

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What do you mean by Blackcoin has already been moved to Bitcoin Core 0.12?  I have no idea what you're talking about, unless you don't too.  Well then, touche!  Cheesy

;P payblk is using 0.12.1 client(https://payblk.blackcoin.io) for example.  It is unsustainable to use 0.13 client, currently around  44 C++ developers alone have participated,
who created 1683 commits, done with POW in mind, impossible to review all their impact on POS.

... I looked at the article about why qtum went to 0.13 base and it doesn't make any sense whatsoever,
http://www.bikaifa.com/qtum-blockchain-ported-pos-3-0-to-bitcoin-core-0-13

valid headers blockchain is in 0.12 too,
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/0.12/src/rpcblockchain.cpp#L736

1. invalid               This branch contains at least one invalid block
2. headers-only      Not all blocks for this branch are available, but the headers are valid
3. valid-headers     All blocks are available for this branch, but they were never fully validated
4. valid-fork           This branch is not part of the active chain, but is fully validated
5 active                 This is the tip of the active main chain, which is certainly valid

It cannot be used for synchronizing, you can easily end on a fork.
Bitcoin had a scripting language similiar to eth in his early days too, which was exploited and was removed
and Qtum is bringing it back? Oh my..DAO

Forking code is not enough, Bitcoin is full of magic numbers, you have to fork community and all the networks characteristics to have it work properly
and there is no need for that
https://nm.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/5m7af3/what_is_going_on_in_blk/dc42wgu/

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Where can I download BLk blockchain? It's syncing too long really. I want to stake some coins)

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February 07, 2017, 08:30:20 PM
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Where can I download BLk blockchain? It's syncing too long really. I want to stake some coins)

Kiklo's Premium Blockchain Snapshot Service

You will need a program that can uncompress rar files to access the files.
example:  http://rarlabs.com/download.htm
Tech Tips: Always scan a download for Viruses before installing , one such service is https://www.virustotal.com .

Our Blockchain Snapshots can be installed on a New or Already Working Wallet.
SnapShots will install much Faster than the BootStraps.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1378653.msg14024451

and direct link  from that forum
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1378653.msg15441053#msg15441053
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February 07, 2017, 10:14:37 PM
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Any good news ?

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holding the bag to take blackcoin at cheap price, I think the need to add another trading site for blackcoin
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