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February 16, 2017, 06:53:26 AM
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;P payblk is using 0.12.1 client(https://payblk.blackcoin.io) for example.  It is unsustainable to use 0.13 client, currently around  44 C++ developers alone have participated,
who created 1683 commits, done with POW in mind, impossible to review all their impact on POS.

... I looked at the article about why qtum went to 0.13 base and it doesn't make any sense whatsoever,
http://www.bikaifa.com/qtum-blockchain-ported-pos-3-0-to-bitcoin-core-0-13

valid headers blockchain is in 0.12 too,
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/0.12/src/rpcblockchain.cpp#L736

1. invalid               This branch contains at least one invalid block
2. headers-only      Not all blocks for this branch are available, but the headers are valid
3. valid-headers     All blocks are available for this branch, but they were never fully validated
4. valid-fork           This branch is not part of the active chain, but is fully validated
5 active                 This is the tip of the active main chain, which is certainly valid

It cannot be used for synchronizing, you can easily end on a fork.
Bitcoin had a scripting language similiar to eth in his early days too, which was exploited and was removed
and Qtum is bringing it back? Oh my..DAO

Forking code is not enough, Bitcoin is full of magic numbers, you have to fork community and all the networks characteristics to have it work properly
and there is no need for that
https://nm.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/5m7af3/what_is_going_on_in_blk/dc42wgu/

What is going on in BLK

Thanks for the reply.  I'm not really a technical person but what I got from your post is Qtum might not be all that good lol.  That's making me having second thoughts in investing on the  ICO.  I still might but for a whole nother reason and for a smaller amount for sure.  I still think it's a good gamble to make some BTC's.  

Is there any updates with this coin?

Black halo looked so promsing, but have not heard much since.

Back in the day, yeah.  All the next generation ICO's changed the landscape.  They're getting all the limelight and the money.  

Anyway, dzimbeck, I'm dropping by here to ask what is different about Blackcoin's POS compared NXT's POS.  I'm thinking of investing in Qtum's ICO (I know, I know, I'll be careful), and I see in their ANN thread that they will be using code based on Bitcoin Core 0.13 and use that to create a POS platform based on Blackcoin's POS 3.0.  Is that even possible?  And what's the big deal with BC's POS 3.0?

Thanks.

Hi so the big difference is removing of all coinage and making the stake reward constant instead of based on coinage. This forces people to stay connected. Also there was several security fixes. I wrote a short paper on it but never published it.

Lastly, POS 3 allows for custom staking by putting the data in 6a. So it allows multisignature staking which is used for Halos coldstake. Also this makes it easy to add voting which will be in my next update.

Blackcoin is one of the most forked coins. However the people who do it will still have to code something useful out of it and most projects never move beyond the ANN

Ok, thanks.  If you don't mind me asking...  What do you of Qtum https://qtum.org/?

They have some 'big' names behind it but I was wondering what you think of what it will be technically.  Anything good?

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https://twitter.com/JoshuaJBouw/status/831196466764935169
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I will be making a community update... I really hope to get it all done in the upcoming days. Really good stuff.



Good to know I am really curious to know what will be the update. I think next week will be an interesting one for BLK.

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i think the coin should increase the interest.
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February 20, 2017, 01:44:15 AM
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Blackhalo has the "cash for coins" template. This is perfect for the Chinese! The initial inspiration for double deposit was to help the Chinese get money in and out of Bitcoin without any risk and no arbiters and no fees.
This is perfect solution for this situation in China, but why this is not priority of PR team? This is good opportunity for BLACKCOIN now use it wisely. Look how Monero stayed calmed. Because they know what they have and they will rise for sure.
I remember having some blackcoins in a wallet when I first started out  staking coins to give it a try.
Lost the waller and didn't try to get anymore.
Good to see there still is interest in it almost two years later.
I might try to collect these again and see where they take me.
Any exchanges taking it yet?

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February 20, 2017, 01:58:43 AM
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Blackhalo has the "cash for coins" template. This is perfect for the Chinese! The initial inspiration for double deposit was to help the Chinese get money in and out of Bitcoin without any risk and no arbiters and no fees.
This is perfect solution for this situation in China, but why this is not priority of PR team? This is good opportunity for BLACKCOIN now use it wisely. Look how Monero stayed calmed. Because they know what they have and they will rise for sure.
I remember having some blackcoins in a wallet when I first started out  staking coins to give it a try.
Lost the waller and didn't try to get anymore.
Good to see there still is interest in it almost two years later.
I might try to collect these again and see where they take me.
Any exchanges taking it yet?

I don't think blackcoin is on any exchanges.

This token is going nowhere!
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February 20, 2017, 02:29:11 AM
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Blackhalo has the "cash for coins" template. This is perfect for the Chinese! The initial inspiration for double deposit was to help the Chinese get money in and out of Bitcoin without any risk and no arbiters and no fees.
This is perfect solution for this situation in China, but why this is not priority of PR team? This is good opportunity for BLACKCOIN now use it wisely. Look how Monero stayed calmed. Because they know what they have and they will rise for sure.
I remember having some blackcoins in a wallet when I first started out  staking coins to give it a try.
Lost the waller and didn't try to get anymore.
Good to see there still is interest in it almost two years later.
I might try to collect these again and see where they take me.
Any exchanges taking it yet?

Don't mind the previous poster. You can find BlackCoin on the following exchanges:

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/blackcoin/#markets

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February 20, 2017, 10:46:45 AM
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Blackhalo has the "cash for coins" template. This is perfect for the Chinese! The initial inspiration for double deposit was to help the Chinese get money in and out of Bitcoin without any risk and no arbiters and no fees.
This is perfect solution for this situation in China, but why this is not priority of PR team? This is good opportunity for BLACKCOIN now use it wisely. Look how Monero stayed calmed. Because they know what they have and they will rise for sure.
I remember having some blackcoins in a wallet when I first started out  staking coins to give it a try.
Lost the waller and didn't try to get anymore.
Good to see there still is interest in it almost two years later.
I might try to collect these again and see where they take me.
Any exchanges taking it yet?

I don't think blackcoin is on any exchanges.

This token is going nowhere!

And then there is this guy, love you too Complexring lol
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February 22, 2017, 05:44:59 AM
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;P payblk is using 0.12.1 client(https://payblk.blackcoin.io) for example.  It is unsustainable to use 0.13 client, currently around  44 C++ developers alone have participated,
who created 1683 commits, done with POW in mind, impossible to review all their impact on POS.

... I looked at the article about why qtum went to 0.13 base and it doesn't make any sense whatsoever,
http://www.bikaifa.com/qtum-blockchain-ported-pos-3-0-to-bitcoin-core-0-13

valid headers blockchain is in 0.12 too,
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/0.12/src/rpcblockchain.cpp#L736

1. invalid               This branch contains at least one invalid block
2. headers-only      Not all blocks for this branch are available, but the headers are valid
3. valid-headers     All blocks are available for this branch, but they were never fully validated
4. valid-fork           This branch is not part of the active chain, but is fully validated
5 active                 This is the tip of the active main chain, which is certainly valid

It cannot be used for synchronizing, you can easily end on a fork.
Bitcoin had a scripting language similiar to eth in his early days too, which was exploited and was removed
and Qtum is bringing it back? Oh my..DAO

Forking code is not enough, Bitcoin is full of magic numbers, you have to fork community and all the networks characteristics to have it work properly
and there is no need for that
https://nm.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/5m7af3/what_is_going_on_in_blk/dc42wgu/

What is going on in BLK

Thanks for the reply.  I'm not really a technical person but what I got from your post is Qtum might not be all that good lol.  That's making me having second thoughts in investing on the  ICO.  I still might but for a whole nother reason and for a smaller amount for sure.  I still think it's a good gamble to make some BTC's.  

Is there any updates with this coin?

Black halo looked so promsing, but have not heard much since.

Back in the day, yeah.  All the next generation ICO's changed the landscape.  They're getting all the limelight and the money.  

Anyway, dzimbeck, I'm dropping by here to ask what is different about Blackcoin's POS compared NXT's POS.  I'm thinking of investing in Qtum's ICO (I know, I know, I'll be careful), and I see in their ANN thread that they will be using code based on Bitcoin Core 0.13 and use that to create a POS platform based on Blackcoin's POS 3.0.  Is that even possible?  And what's the big deal with BC's POS 3.0?

Thanks.

Hi so the big difference is removing of all coinage and making the stake reward constant instead of based on coinage. This forces people to stay connected. Also there was several security fixes. I wrote a short paper on it but never published it.

Lastly, POS 3 allows for custom staking by putting the data in 6a. So it allows multisignature staking which is used for Halos coldstake. Also this makes it easy to add voting which will be in my next update.

Blackcoin is one of the most forked coins. However the people who do it will still have to code something useful out of it and most projects never move beyond the ANN

Ok, thanks.  If you don't mind me asking...  What do you of Qtum https://qtum.org/?

They have some 'big' names behind it but I was wondering what you think of what it will be technically.  Anything good?

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https://nm.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/5vs3b8/blackcoin_is_three_years_old_years/
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Happy birthday BlackCoin! What an exciting time it was when BlackCoin launched and gained heaps of attention and value within a very short period of time.

I wonder if something similar in store for us this year?  Cool

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February 25, 2017, 07:15:46 AM
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From a purely charting perspective, BLK may have just established a double bottom, which means prices should start rising from here, hopefully Smiley

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February 25, 2017, 07:20:05 AM
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A long time not followed the topic. The project continues to develop, or abandoned?

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February 25, 2017, 07:36:41 AM
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"Happy 3rd birthday!"

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February 25, 2017, 07:52:56 AM
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A long time not followed the topic. The project continues to develop, or abandoned?

The project continuously being develop with the help of loyal community members who still believe in the potential of BLK.

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February 27, 2017, 08:07:25 AM
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come on rat4,we need you going on for blk
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February 27, 2017, 09:07:19 AM
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  My first coin  is BLK,may BLK more and more better
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February 27, 2017, 09:24:39 AM
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  My first coin  is BLK,may BLK more and more better

We back to 2014 early price lvls but now distribution is far way better IMO.
With all centralization IN BTC who knows where BLK can go later.

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February 28, 2017, 09:02:58 AM
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Can save lots of time, thanks.  Smiley

time and tide is wait for none so keep it up and hurry up its better chance to move up.
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February 28, 2017, 06:39:12 PM
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  My first coin  is BLK,may BLK more and more better

We back to 2014 early price lvls but now distribution is far way better IMO.
With all centralization IN BTC who knows where BLK can go later.

same price level but market value has tripled. I like Black, it seems to be a good coin to trade


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March 03, 2017, 08:55:09 AM
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Guys, I'm having troubles withdrawing BLK from Poloniex. It says withdrawal 'complete', but there's no such record in blockchain.
So I have to ask their very slow support to kick it. It happend lot of times last monthes. But why? Anybody experienced same problem?
BLK always was quite a fast coin, now it takes weeks to transfer thanks to Polo
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