750 GH/s - 3TH/s Miners from $3565 - www.bitcoinultra.co.uk

[V4Vendettas]

Cut and paste from : http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/vies/

So looks like that checks out to me can anyone confirm?

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VIES VAT number validation


Yes, valid VAT number

Member State   GB   
VAT Number   GB 181109625
Date when request received   2014/03/05 18:11:12
Name   JENRA LIMITED
Address   38 DERRY GROVE
THURNSCOE
ROTHERHAM
SOUTH YORKSHIRE
S63 0TS

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[raskul]

orders open on 7th March but not shipping til 31st March.
that's preorder.

email showing only a render.


SCAM. 

[bitcoinultra]

After a busy day (and working late again), we have lots of good news!  Today, we have received our electronics components delivery, which means we now have everything in stock for large scale production of our miners.

Tomorrow at 16:00pm GMT, we are officially opening our orders for a limited quantity of Enigma 1 Miners, which will be dispatched on 31st March 2014. (Local customers in the UK can collect their order from our office, from Sunday 30th March onwards).

All orders placed are covered by our dispatch date guarantee, to ensure you receive your miner on time as promised!! The following week, we will be opening up for larger quantities of the Enigma 1, as well as the rest of the Enigma range.

As you may already know, our miners are based on the Coincraft A1 ASIC chip. We were targeting a power usage of 0.65 W/GH (as stated on the data sheet) but using the A1, the best we can achieve is 0.85 W/GH. We feel that given the current lack of hardware available, it is better to provide our hardware at 0.85 W/GH and for it to be readily available now, than to delay for another month or two.

We are also pleased to announce that the price of our Enigma 1 is now $3200 (£1910), which also includes an RPI controller for complete standalone operation.

On behalf of everyone at Bitcoin Ultra, Thank You for your recent interest and we look forward to becoming a big part of the Bitcoin community.

[bitcoin_miner]

waiting info from senior inthis forum to review this product..


I receved email from bitcoinultra

[Biffa]

We are already VAT registered and our listed prices are inclusive of VAT. We also have an EROI number for exporting from the UK.

Sorry to be pendantic.

Can you confirm the new price of $3200 (£1910) INC VAT or around 4.9BTC INC VAT?

Thanks

[Tad3j]

Are the payment are made tomorrow, or at the dispatching time?

[Gator-hex]

The wait is finally over! 750GH/s dispatching on 31st March

Hold on I thought you said the wait was over? That means I got to wait 24 more days!  

Send me one, I'll review/photo/video it so everyone knows it's legit, then I'll pay you for it so it won't cost you a dime.  

[klondike_bar]

Not impressed at all personally. This is about as vaporware as possible. There isnt even a case design - just a shitty 3D render that actually appears to be hollow.

for reference, bitmain had 3D renders of the actual board available before they had actual photos, and that again was before they opened sales.

PROOF comes before SALES. not the other way around

[V4Vendettas]

I honestly think I might want one or more of your rigs more than anyone else on the planet right now.

HOWEVER

"Here at Bitcoin Ultra, our main goal is to reinvent the way people purchase their mining equipment; by putting a stop to the endless pre-order queues, offered by other hardware suppliers.
We will NOT accept any pre-order payments, until our mining rigs are in full production."

So why are you asking us to pre order ?

Prove to me your in full production and I will be more than happy to hand over the last cash I have to my name.

You cant tell me you don't have a prototype so post pictures of it ( no one cares how messy it looks).

Show us a video of it hashing away on a pool or something.

Go to your manufacturing location (you claim its less than 1 mile away) and open the box's that just came thu the door. Take pictures of them show us the chips you have,show us the PCB's show us the hands of one of your workers assembling a unit and put a copy of the local Yorkshire times or what ever's front page in every photo.

This honestly would not take more than 1 hour of your time and mean so very very much to your potential customer base. A customer base I might add that you know very well has been plagued with bullshit claims and scams for too long. You can be different.

If you cant do that you should not take a single pre order payment until you can prove you have units in stock and then sell them in an honest fashion.

Why would you tar your self with the same brush like the other companies you claim to be different from.

I cant tell you how much I hope your company is legit and can deliver but (and I'm sure I don't speak only for myself) I have no more blind faith to give.


Please do the right thing because "the wait is NOT finally over"

[V4Vendettas]

Just looked at both your twitter and Facebook page both fantastic marketing platforms for a company such as yourself and not a single picture.

Come on fix this and prove the doubts wrong you know its in your interest...well if your legit anyway.

[jegersmart]

I got the same email and basically replied that I am already in a pre-order situation right now so unwilling to commit to another, but would visit them as soon as they have physical units and place a multi-unit order in person at their premises on seeing the units.

I guess there are many who will pre-order anyway but I am not going through this again...

J

[V4Vendettas]

I got the same email and basically replied that I am already in a pre-order situation right now so unwilling to commit to another, but would visit them as soon as they have physical units and place a multi-unit order in person at their premises on seeing the units.

I guess there are many who will pre-order anyway but I am not going through this again...

J

Yea I am going to be doing exactly the same as you unless they can provide the evidence I suggested a few posts up.

Wont lie I'm a little gutted about this right now.

[jegersmart]

I got the same email and basically replied that I am already in a pre-order situation right now so unwilling to commit to another, but would visit them as soon as they have physical units and place a multi-unit order in person at their premises on seeing the units.

I guess there are many who will pre-order anyway but I am not going through this again...

J

Yea I am going to be doing exactly the same as you unless they can provide the evidence I suggested a few posts up.

Wont lie I'm a little gutted about this right now.

Gutted? why?

Yes, many may pre-order but I would rather see and order rather than get into a Bitmine/BFL/Cointerra storm...

J

[Swimmer63]

No pictures??  No interest.
Stop sending these emails and announcements.  Put one together.  Run it.  Take pictures and videos. Post them.
Then we will listen.  Anything less is a waste of both of our time.  And it's actually insulting.

So much for changing the face of miner sales.

[ineedit]

We are already VAT registered and our listed prices are inclusive of VAT. We also have an EROI number for exporting from the UK.

Excellent, what is your VAT number?

Sorry for the delay with any updates we are currently working flat out:

Our VAT number is 181109625

...

You told a porkie by saying that you were registered for VAT when you were not. Your registration date is a few weeks after I asked.


It may have been a mistake and having started up my own businesses before I know just how hard that can be but based on the lack of transparency I would not pre-order.


I really do want your firm to be a success because I will not have to pay any import VAT extra on top of your advertised prices so I am really hoping you are genuine but FUD and scams are everywhere in virtual currency. If you have a working product then I will buy it.

I can come over just about any afternoon to see a working miner, it is not that far from where I work. When you have a working miner, and I stress working, it doesn't have to be perfect but it does have to be stable, then PM me and I will come over.

[V4Vendettas]

I hope the next step from bitcoinulta is not not accepting credit cards for this first batch.

[raskul]

I hope the next step from bitcoinulta is not not accepting credit cards for this first batch.

I have a legitimate UK business and can easily accept credit cards. this took all of 6 days to set up, so bitcoinultra should have no excuses not to accept credit cards. since they knew from the off it would be most people's preferred method of payment, it would have been the first thing they would organise.

[firejuan]

So you are now taking preorders.  Can you please provide videos of your miners operating as requested by other members?  It is difficult to ask a community that has been scammed so many times to put trust in an unknown company without proof of product that has not been vetted by trusted member of this forum.

After a busy day (and working late again), we have lots of good news!  Today, we have received our electronics components delivery, which means we now have everything in stock for large scale production of our miners.

Tomorrow at 16:00pm GMT, we are officially opening our orders for a limited quantity of Enigma 1 Miners, which will be dispatched on 31st March 2014. (Local customers in the UK can collect their order from our office, from Sunday 30th March onwards).

All orders placed are covered by our dispatch date guarantee, to ensure you receive your miner on time as promised!! The following week, we will be opening up for larger quantities of the Enigma 1, as well as the rest of the Enigma range.

As you may already know, our miners are based on the Coincraft A1 ASIC chip. We were targeting a power usage of 0.65 W/GH (as stated on the data sheet) but using the A1, the best we can achieve is 0.85 W/GH. We feel that given the current lack of hardware available, it is better to provide our hardware at 0.85 W/GH and for it to be readily available now, than to delay for another month or two.

We are also pleased to announce that the price of our Enigma 1 is now $3200 (£1910), which also includes an RPI controller for complete standalone operation.

On behalf of everyone at Bitcoin Ultra, Thank You for your recent interest and we look forward to becoming a big part of the Bitcoin community.

[railzand]

won't a posse of you northern types just don your flat 'ats and go there?

[nytrolic]

Like I said on the previous page.

If they are happy to welcome visitors/potential customers, I'll drive over with whoever wants to come with me, as long as you can get to Leeds

They are about a 30 min car drive from me, I don't mind nipping over, if anybody else wants to come with me and can get to Leeds, I'll pick you up from the train station