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January 17, 2016, 05:43:27 PM
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Do you know where your tax dollars are going?

US Government-Funded RAND Research Examines Strategies for Disrupting Digital Currency

What do you do when your country is barreling towards twenty trillion dollars worth of debt, while facing abysmal workforce participation rates at home and massive foreign policy challenges abroad? Well, if you’re the US government, there’s really only one sensible option: you fund a research project to have RAND examine different ways to disrupt digital currencies.

Yes, that’s right: the federally-funded RAND National Defense Research Institute’s International Security and Defense Policy Center was asked by the Office of the US Secretary of Defense to examine the national security implications presented by digital currency implementation, as well as possible options the United States could use to disrupt such currencies should the nation determine that they somehow pose a national security risk.

The report manages to be both thought-provoking and chilling, and offers a wonderful opportunity for interested readers to sneak a peek behind the curtain at the types of concerns their tax dollars help to address.


Very interesting... I'm writing a brief synopsis for anyone who doesn't have time to read the entire report, and will be posting it shortly.
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January 17, 2016, 06:12:32 PM
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Do you know where your tax dollars are going?

US Government-Funded RAND Research Examines Strategies for Disrupting Digital Currency

What do you do when your country is barreling towards twenty trillion dollars worth of debt, while facing abysmal workforce participation rates at home and massive foreign policy challenges abroad? Well, if you’re the US government, there’s really only one sensible option: you fund a research project to have RAND examine different ways to disrupt digital currencies.

Yes, that’s right: the federally-funded RAND National Defense Research Institute’s International Security and Defense Policy Center was asked by the Office of the US Secretary of Defense to examine the national security implications presented by digital currency implementation, as well as possible options the United States could use to disrupt such currencies should the nation determine that they somehow pose a national security risk.

The report manages to be both thought-provoking and chilling, and offers a wonderful opportunity for interested readers to sneak a peek behind the curtain at the types of concerns their tax dollars help to address.


Very interesting... I'm writing a brief synopsis for anyone who doesn't have time to read the entire report, and will be posting it shortly.

Thanks CryptoBroker, I look forward to it. I'm reading a couple pages here and there, it is quite interesting.

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January 17, 2016, 09:50:18 PM
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Do you know where your tax dollars are going?

US Government-Funded RAND Research Examines Strategies for Disrupting Digital Currency

What do you do when your country is barreling towards twenty trillion dollars worth of debt, while facing abysmal workforce participation rates at home and massive foreign policy challenges abroad? Well, if you’re the US government, there’s really only one sensible option: you fund a research project to have RAND examine different ways to disrupt digital currencies.

Yes, that’s right: the federally-funded RAND National Defense Research Institute’s International Security and Defense Policy Center was asked by the Office of the US Secretary of Defense to examine the national security implications presented by digital currency implementation, as well as possible options the United States could use to disrupt such currencies should the nation determine that they somehow pose a national security risk.

The report manages to be both thought-provoking and chilling, and offers a wonderful opportunity for interested readers to sneak a peek behind the curtain at the types of concerns their tax dollars help to address.


Although I do object to taxpayer money being used to fund NGO research projects, the report itself was very interesting. They are clearly lacking in some areas of expertise, but overall it was very informative and provided a fair overview of the industry.

Here is a quick point form overview of the report:

- Main targets: Services such as exchanges, wallets, and cell phone apps used for transactions.

- Attacks on centralized services (pools / web wallets) likely to be DDOS.

- Attacks on entire currency likely to be 51% attack or software corruption.

- Virtual currencies have no intrinsic value (DNotes value will primarily come from the business and services underlying the currency).

- The most effective forms of money were developed from objects that were otherwise quite useless such as paper or binary code.

- Commodity based currencies maintain stable volume over time, however are vulnerable to short term value fluctuations that are beyond the control of authorities. This is because they are based on supply and demand of the commodity.

- Commodity based currencies are difficult to transfer over long distances.

- Fiat currency value is dependent on users trust in the central authority, and are difficult to transfer over long distances (but easier than commodity based currencies).

- Virtual currencies act as a store of value, unit of account, and medium of exchange within their community of interest.

- Virtual currencies are easily transferrable and do not need to transit through borders as currency, reducing cross border transaction costs.

- Types of coins:

1) Pure Altcoins - Modified Bitcoin to create new blockchain based currencies.

2) Anonymous Coins - Used additional cryptographic techniques to provide greater anonymity than Bitcoin.

3) Appcoins - Use blockchains for other purposes - They may also be used as currencies or for financial transactions.

- Centralized architectures require a central server that ensures security. The drawbacks to this is a single point of failure, and the requirement of trust in the central authority.

- Decentralized authority mechanisms work on consensus of many users, therefore even if some users are malicious, they cannot impede correct behavior.

- Semi -centralized virtual currencies (such as Ripple), distribute authority among restricted set of participants.

- There is no evedence that organized criminal groups have developed and deployed virtual currencies, but there is some evidence that some have exploited Bitcoin for illegitimate transactions.

- One of the most common criminal uses for virtual currency is ransomware. Another is the purchase of illicit goods online.

- There is little evidence that terrorists are using virtual currency on a meaningful scale. This could change if they feel there is more to gain (politically, economically, or operationally) by moving toward increased virtual currency usage.

- Sovereign currencies are being deployed to replace existing currencies for reasons such as rampant inflation (with or without government approval).

- Controlling their own currency, non-state groups such as insurgents may be able to increase their political and economic leverage in contested territories.

- Given the large tech infrastructure requirements , virtual currencies have not been used as the medium of choice for insurgents involved in civil conflicts.

- Non-State currencies emerge when State currencies do not meet group needs.

- Consumers in emerging markets are using Bitcoin to hedge their volatile currencies.

- Central banks and governments in developed countries have assessed the monetary control risk posed by virtual currencies circulating in their areas of resposibilty to be low.

- The two conditions under which virtual currencies are likely to gain traction are:

1) The central authority does not provide a stable macroeconomic environment, and as a result the territorial fiat currency is non-existant or its value becomes unstable.

2) Since most community currencies are geographically constrained, virtual currencies may play an important role in building and maintaining communities.

- Most local communities that have adopted community currencies have done so within the structure of a well developed financial system.

- Insurgent groups with contested territorial control over a region have three options when adopting a currency:

1) Adopt commodity based currency in which the currency in circulation is the commodity itself.

2) Adopt another country's currency. This ranges from circulating pre-existing currency in the local economy to minting a new currency that is backed with reserves of another country's currency.

3) Adopt its own currency that may not nessarily be backed by a commodity or by stocks of a reserve currency. The benefit to this option is the new group requires smaller reserves to roll out their new currency. A fixed exchange rate may help combat volatility, however unless the market believes the currency value is inaccurate, or the group has insufficient reserves to defend their exchange rate peg, the group may be unable to defend the currency's value.

- There are three reasons why separatist groups are not expected to establish virtual currencies:

1) Insurgent organizations lack skills to deploy virtual currencies.

2) Monetary rules underlying virtual currencies need to be specific and maintained.

3) User's trust in new currencies tends to be low.  Users need time to become familiar with the system, the stability, and ease of use.


- Low initial penetration of virtual currencies in day to day economic life will increase users suspicion. This suspician will erode as they become more familiar with virtual currencies.

- In the near term paper currencies will be far more acceptable and inherently more trustworthy even though they are less resilient to physical attack and require greater infrastructure.

- An insurgent group is more likely to choose paper currency over a virtual currency today.

I've decided to omit the development and deployment of a virtual currency, as DNotes has been a model in this regard. However my takeaway is the importance of wisely incentivizing mining. Too drastic of a block reward reduction without increased adoption, could leave miners operating at a loss.

I've also omitted the vulnerabilities section as it's a lot of theoretical what ifs and hearsay that smaller VC's and centralized services (exchanges, pools, web and mobile wallets) are more susceptible to. If zero day vulnerabilities of Bitcoin were known, it's likely that Bitcoin would be long gone by now. Sophisticated attackers may take advantage of careless VC users by undermining their software and/or hardware. If enough users are compromised, the VC may be as well.


-Bitcoin is anonymous in the sense that every transaction and every account balance is known to anyone with an internet connection; the unknown information is who owns each account (something that can be revealed through user transactions).

-Decentralized VC's such as Bitcoin have provided a resilient means to store and update data in a highly distributed fashion that's hard to corrupt.

-The time required to distribute and agree upon the data is a limiting factor.

-A central challenge in adopting blockchain technology to other non-financial applications will be how to incentivize the security of a decentralized system.

-While blockchain applications may be useful for national security, they would be particularly beneficial for adversaries who would have access to far more resilient services than they would otherwise considering their limited skill set.

-Increased awareness of blockchain technology has increased awareness of sophisticated cryptographic techniques for distributed consensus and computation, which can be used by less sophisticated developers to enable greater security.

-Increased mining based VC use may increase the amount of hardware available capable of breaking cryptographic security.

-The development of a VC by a non-state actor is most feasible when supported by a nation state with advanced cyber expertise. The nation state could enable the non-state actor to overcome the considerable hurdles associated with developing a VC.
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January 17, 2016, 10:14:22 PM
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Do you know where your tax dollars are going?

US Government-Funded RAND Research Examines Strategies for Disrupting Digital Currency

What do you do when your country is barreling towards twenty trillion dollars worth of debt, while facing abysmal workforce participation rates at home and massive foreign policy challenges abroad? Well, if you’re the US government, there’s really only one sensible option: you fund a research project to have RAND examine different ways to disrupt digital currencies.

Yes, that’s right: the federally-funded RAND National Defense Research Institute’s International Security and Defense Policy Center was asked by the Office of the US Secretary of Defense to examine the national security implications presented by digital currency implementation, as well as possible options the United States could use to disrupt such currencies should the nation determine that they somehow pose a national security risk.

The report manages to be both thought-provoking and chilling, and offers a wonderful opportunity for interested readers to sneak a peek behind the curtain at the types of concerns their tax dollars help to address.


Although I do object to taxpayer money being used to fund NGO research projects, the report itself was very interesting. They are clearly lacking in some areas of expertise, but overall it was very informative and provided a fair overview of the industry.

Here is a quick point form overview of the report:

- Main targets: Services such as exchanges, wallets, and cell phone apps used for transactions.

- Attacks on centralized services (pools / web wallets) likely to be DDOS.

- Attacks on entire currency likely to be 51% attack or software corruption.

- Virtual currencies have no intrinsic value (DNotes value will primarily come from the business and services underlying the currency).

- The most effective forms of money were developed from objects that were otherwise quite useless such as paper or binary code.

- Commodity based currencies maintain stable volume over time, however are vulnerable to short term value fluctuations that are beyond the control of authorities. This is because they are based on supply and demand of the commodity.

- Commodity based currencies are difficult to transfer over long distances.

- Fiat currency value is dependent on users trust in the central authority, and are difficult to transfer over long distances (but easier than commodity based currencies).

- Virtual currencies act as a store of value, unit of account, and medium of exchange within their community of interest.

- Virtual currencies are easily transferrable and do not need to transit through borders as currency, reducing cross border transaction costs.

- Types of coins:

1) Pure Altcoins - Modified Bitcoin to create new blockchain based currencies.

2) Anonymous Coins - Used additional cryptographic techniques to provide greater anonymity than Bitcoin.

3) Appcoins - Use blockchains for other purposes - They may also be used as currencies or for financial transactions.

- Centralized architectures require a central server that ensures security. The drawbacks to this is a single point of failure, and the requirement of trust in the central authority.

- Decentralized authority mechanisms work on consensus of many users, therefore even if some users are malicious, they cannot impede correct behavior.

- Semi -centralized virtual currencies (such as Ripple), distribute authority among restricted set of participants.

- There is no evedence that organized criminal groups have developed and deployed virtual currencies, but there is some evidence that some have exploited Bitcoin for illegitimate transactions.

- One of the most common criminal uses for virtual currency is ransomware. Another is the purchase of illicit goods online.

- There is little evidence that terrorists are using virtual currency on a meaningful scale. This could change if they feel there is more to gain (politically, economically, or operationally) by moving toward increased virtual currency usage.

- Sovereign currencies are being deployed to replace existing currencies for reasons such as rampant inflation (with or without government approval).

- Controlling their own currency, non-state groups such as insurgents may be able to increase their political and economic leverage in contested territories.

- Given the large tech infrastructure requirements , virtual currencies have not been used as the medium of choice for insurgents involved in civil conflicts.

- Non-State currencies emerge when State currencies do not meet group needs.

- Consumers in emerging markets are using Bitcoin to hedge their volatile currencies.

- Central banks and governments in developed countries have assessed the monetary control risk posed by virtual currencies circulating in their areas of resposibilty to be low.

- The two conditions under which virtual currencies are likely to gain traction are:

1) The central authority does not provide a stable macroeconomic environment, and as a result the territorial fiat currency is non-existant or its value becomes unstable.

2) Since most community currencies are geographically constrained, virtual currencies may play an important role in building and maintaining communities.

- Most local communities that have adopted community currencies have done so within the structure of a well developed financial system.

- Insurgent groups with contested territorial control over a region have three options when adopting a currency:

1) Adopt commodity based currency in which the currency in circulation is the commodity itself.

2) Adopt another country's currency. This ranges from circulating pre-existing currency in the local economy to minting a new currency that is backed with reserves of another country's currency.

3) Adopt its own currency that may not nessarily be backed by a commodity or by stocks of a reserve currency. The benefit to this option is the new group requires smaller reserves to roll out their new currency. A fixed exchange rate may help combat volatility, however unless the market believes the currency value is inaccurate, or the group has insufficient reserves to defend their exchange rate peg, the group may be unable to defend the currency's value.

- There are three reasons why separatist groups are not expected to establish virtual currencies:

1) Insurgent organizations lack skills to deploy virtual currencies.

2) Monetary rules underlying virtual currencies need to be specific and maintained.

3) User's trust in new currencies tends to be low.  Users need time to become familiar with the system, the stability, and ease of use.


- Low initial penetration of virtual currencies in day to day economic life will increase users suspicion. This suspician will erode as they become more familiar with virtual currencies.

- In the near term paper currencies will be far more acceptable and inherently more trustworthy even though they are less resilient to physical attack and require greater infrastructure.

- An insurgent group is more likely to choose paper currency over a virtual currency today.

I've decided to omit the development and deployment of a virtual currency, as DNotes has been a model in this regard. However my takeaway is the importance of wisely incentivizing mining. Too drastic of a block reward reduction without increased adoption, could leave miners operating at a loss.

I've also omitted the vulnerabilities section as it's a lot of theoretical what ifs and hearsay that smaller VC's and centralized services (exchanges, pools, web and mobile wallets) are more susceptible to. If zero day vulnerabilities of Bitcoin were known, it's likely that Bitcoin would be long gone by now. Sophisticated attackers may take advantage of careless VC users by undermining their software and/or hardware. If enough users are compromised, the VC may be as well.


-Bitcoin is anonymous in the sense that every transaction and every account balance is known to anyone with an internet connection; the unknown information is who owns each account (something that can be revealed through user transactions).

-Decentralized VC's such as Bitcoin have provided a resilient means to store and update data in a highly distributed fashion that's hard to corrupt.

-The time required to distribute and agree upon the data is a limiting factor.

-A central challenge in adopting blockchain technology to other non-financial applications will be how to incentivize the security of a decentralized system.

-While blockchain applications may be useful for national security, they would be particularly beneficial for adversaries who would have access to far more resilient services than they would otherwise considering their limited skill set.

-Increased awareness of blockchain technology has increased awareness of sophisticated cryptographic techniques for distributed consensus and computation, which can be used by less sophisticated developers to enable greater security.

-Increased mining based VC use may increase the amount of hardware available capable of breaking cryptographic security.

-The development of a VC by a non-state actor is most feasible when supported by a nation state with advanced cyber expertise. The nation state could enable the non-state actor to overcome the considerable hurdles associated with developing a VC.

Great summary CryptoBroker, thank you! This was overall highly informative, very well thought out, and interesting. As the report goes on it becomes more clear why this may have been important to government.

Some of the vulnerabilities discussion was very interesting as well, but mostly required immense resources, and suggested just as immense counter measures.

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January 17, 2016, 11:01:40 PM
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Do you know where your tax dollars are going?

US Government-Funded RAND Research Examines Strategies for Disrupting Digital Currency

What do you do when your country is barreling towards twenty trillion dollars worth of debt, while facing abysmal workforce participation rates at home and massive foreign policy challenges abroad? Well, if you’re the US government, there’s really only one sensible option: you fund a research project to have RAND examine different ways to disrupt digital currencies.

Yes, that’s right: the federally-funded RAND National Defense Research Institute’s International Security and Defense Policy Center was asked by the Office of the US Secretary of Defense to examine the national security implications presented by digital currency implementation, as well as possible options the United States could use to disrupt such currencies should the nation determine that they somehow pose a national security risk.

The report manages to be both thought-provoking and chilling, and offers a wonderful opportunity for interested readers to sneak a peek behind the curtain at the types of concerns their tax dollars help to address.


Although I do object to taxpayer money being used to fund NGO research projects, the report itself was very interesting. They are clearly lacking in some areas of expertise, but overall it was very informative and provided a fair overview of the industry.

Here is a quick point form overview of the report:

- Main targets: Services such as exchanges, wallets, and cell phone apps used for transactions.

- Attacks on centralized services (pools / web wallets) likely to be DDOS.

- Attacks on entire currency likely to be 51% attack or software corruption.

- Virtual currencies have no intrinsic value (DNotes value will primarily come from the business and services underlying the currency).

- The most effective forms of money were developed from objects that were otherwise quite useless such as paper or binary code.

- Commodity based currencies maintain stable volume over time, however are vulnerable to short term value fluctuations that are beyond the control of authorities. This is because they are based on supply and demand of the commodity.

- Commodity based currencies are difficult to transfer over long distances.

- Fiat currency value is dependent on users trust in the central authority, and are difficult to transfer over long distances (but easier than commodity based currencies).

- Virtual currencies act as a store of value, unit of account, and medium of exchange within their community of interest.

- Virtual currencies are easily transferrable and do not need to transit through borders as currency, reducing cross border transaction costs.

- Types of coins:

1) Pure Altcoins - Modified Bitcoin to create new blockchain based currencies.

2) Anonymous Coins - Used additional cryptographic techniques to provide greater anonymity than Bitcoin.

3) Appcoins - Use blockchains for other purposes - They may also be used as currencies or for financial transactions.

- Centralized architectures require a central server that ensures security. The drawbacks to this is a single point of failure, and the requirement of trust in the central authority.

- Decentralized authority mechanisms work on consensus of many users, therefore even if some users are malicious, they cannot impede correct behavior.

- Semi -centralized virtual currencies (such as Ripple), distribute authority among restricted set of participants.

- There is no evedence that organized criminal groups have developed and deployed virtual currencies, but there is some evidence that some have exploited Bitcoin for illegitimate transactions.

- One of the most common criminal uses for virtual currency is ransomware. Another is the purchase of illicit goods online.

- There is little evidence that terrorists are using virtual currency on a meaningful scale. This could change if they feel there is more to gain (politically, economically, or operationally) by moving toward increased virtual currency usage.

- Sovereign currencies are being deployed to replace existing currencies for reasons such as rampant inflation (with or without government approval).

- Controlling their own currency, non-state groups such as insurgents may be able to increase their political and economic leverage in contested territories.

- Given the large tech infrastructure requirements , virtual currencies have not been used as the medium of choice for insurgents involved in civil conflicts.

- Non-State currencies emerge when State currencies do not meet group needs.

- Consumers in emerging markets are using Bitcoin to hedge their volatile currencies.

- Central banks and governments in developed countries have assessed the monetary control risk posed by virtual currencies circulating in their areas of resposibilty to be low.

- The two conditions under which virtual currencies are likely to gain traction are:

1) The central authority does not provide a stable macroeconomic environment, and as a result the territorial fiat currency is non-existant or its value becomes unstable.

2) Since most community currencies are geographically constrained, virtual currencies may play an important role in building and maintaining communities.

- Most local communities that have adopted community currencies have done so within the structure of a well developed financial system.

- Insurgent groups with contested territorial control over a region have three options when adopting a currency:

1) Adopt commodity based currency in which the currency in circulation is the commodity itself.

2) Adopt another country's currency. This ranges from circulating pre-existing currency in the local economy to minting a new currency that is backed with reserves of another country's currency.

3) Adopt its own currency that may not nessarily be backed by a commodity or by stocks of a reserve currency. The benefit to this option is the new group requires smaller reserves to roll out their new currency. A fixed exchange rate may help combat volatility, however unless the market believes the currency value is inaccurate, or the group has insufficient reserves to defend their exchange rate peg, the group may be unable to defend the currency's value.

- There are three reasons why separatist groups are not expected to establish virtual currencies:

1) Insurgent organizations lack skills to deploy virtual currencies.

2) Monetary rules underlying virtual currencies need to be specific and maintained.

3) User's trust in new currencies tends to be low.  Users need time to become familiar with the system, the stability, and ease of use.


- Low initial penetration of virtual currencies in day to day economic life will increase users suspicion. This suspician will erode as they become more familiar with virtual currencies.

- In the near term paper currencies will be far more acceptable and inherently more trustworthy even though they are less resilient to physical attack and require greater infrastructure.

- An insurgent group is more likely to choose paper currency over a virtual currency today.

I've decided to omit the development and deployment of a virtual currency, as DNotes has been a model in this regard. However my takeaway is the importance of wisely incentivizing mining. Too drastic of a block reward reduction without increased adoption, could leave miners operating at a loss.

I've also omitted the vulnerabilities section as it's a lot of theoretical what ifs and hearsay that smaller VC's and centralized services (exchanges, pools, web and mobile wallets) are more susceptible to. If zero day vulnerabilities of Bitcoin were known, it's likely that Bitcoin would be long gone by now. Sophisticated attackers may take advantage of careless VC users by undermining their software and/or hardware. If enough users are compromised, the VC may be as well.


-Bitcoin is anonymous in the sense that every transaction and every account balance is known to anyone with an internet connection; the unknown information is who owns each account (something that can be revealed through user transactions).

-Decentralized VC's such as Bitcoin have provided a resilient means to store and update data in a highly distributed fashion that's hard to corrupt.

-The time required to distribute and agree upon the data is a limiting factor.

-A central challenge in adopting blockchain technology to other non-financial applications will be how to incentivize the security of a decentralized system.

-While blockchain applications may be useful for national security, they would be particularly beneficial for adversaries who would have access to far more resilient services than they would otherwise considering their limited skill set.

-Increased awareness of blockchain technology has increased awareness of sophisticated cryptographic techniques for distributed consensus and computation, which can be used by less sophisticated developers to enable greater security.

-Increased mining based VC use may increase the amount of hardware available capable of breaking cryptographic security.

-The development of a VC by a non-state actor is most feasible when supported by a nation state with advanced cyber expertise. The nation state could enable the non-state actor to overcome the considerable hurdles associated with developing a VC.

Great summary CryptoBroker, thank you! This was overall highly informative, very well thought out, and interesting. As the report goes on it becomes more clear why this may have been important to government.

Some of the vulnerabilities discussion was very interesting as well, but mostly required immense resources, and suggested just as immense counter measures.

Thank you very much, CryptoBroker. You did an outstanding job. It is very helpful since I have little time to read through such a long report. I wish I have more time to comment on it.

However, I got the sense that it actually helps explain why DNotes is deploying so much resources to build a solid base to support the fundamental value of the currency. At this point, DNotes, like all other VCs, has no instinct value. It's market value is strictly the result of supply and demand. With low liquidity the price can be easily manipulated, a common practice in our industry. Such conditions cause high volatility rendering the VC unattractive as a viable medium of exchange, giving it nearly zero chance of mass acceptance. Hence, DNotes has been taking a very different path. To me there is no short cut. 
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Thank you very much, CryptoBroker. You did an outstanding job. It is very helpful since I have little time to read through such a long report. I wish I have more time to comment on it.

However, I got the sense that it actually helps explain why DNotes is deploying so much resources to build a solid base to support the fundamental value of the currency. At this point, DNotes, like all other VCs, has no instinct value. It's market value is strictly the result of supply and demand. With low liquidity the price can be easily manipulated, a common practice in our industry. Such conditions cause high volatility rendering the VC unattractive as a viable medium of exchange, giving it nearly zero chance of mass acceptance. Hence, DNotes has been taking a very different path. To me there is no short cut.

I'm sure there are more than a handful of investors who have spent tens of millions to arrive at this very conclusion.
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'Unobtanium and Dnotes and IndiaMikeZulu folk are all watching developments on Safecex. We have conducted our 'Hello, Support Desk, are you there?' test, and got a friendly answer. Had no trouble putting a tiny . . . deposit on.

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia'

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I love that mantra - there truly are NO shortcuts. You can get ahead initially for a bit, but take a look around our industry for example, and every company that had some initial success by doing so: Mt Gox (ran obsolete "beta" coding on their page long term), Cryptsy (lack of communication, build quality of exchange was buggy) have gone on to pay the price for their lack of foresight and negligence. Many millions of their users money has been lost. It's really unfortunate and I hope that the funds are recovered!

Interestingly, not too impressed with Mike Hearn. Could be 90% certain he left as a publicity stunt for his latest venture R3, which is the antithesis of Bitcoin, it's enemy - and Hearn was working behind the scenes with them the whole time. Hearn basically switched sides while the war was happening and intentionally caused disruption. As far as my research went a while back, he wanted to be the "benelovent dictator" of bitcoin, having authority to change bitcoin code to what he had developed. He knew exactly what his statement would do, and he timed it perfectly to his banking and Fed exec meet up. Hearn contributed greatly to Bitcoin, but now it is good to see him gone.

Like all things, we work through challenges. The blocksize is one, but this could end up being an opportunity for DNotes to decide on the best technologies and coding before hitting the mainstream. This makes DNotes much more agile than say, Bitcoin - at least in the interim.


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I love that mantra - there truly are NO shortcuts. You can get ahead initially for a bit, but take a look around our industry for example, and every company that had some initial success by doing so: Mt Gox (ran obsolete "beta" coding on their page long term), Cryptsy (lack of communication, build quality of exchange was buggy) have gone on to pay the price for their lack of foresight and negligence. Many millions of their users money has been lost. It's really unfortunate and I hope that the funds are recovered!

Interestingly, not too impressed with Mike Hearn. Could be 90% certain he left as a publicity stunt for his latest venture R3, which is the antithesis of Bitcoin, it's enemy - and Hearn was working behind the scenes with them the whole time. Hearn basically switched sides while the war was happening and intentionally caused disruption. As far as my research went a while back, he wanted to be the "benelovent dictator" of bitcoin, having authority to change bitcoin code to what he had developed. He knew exactly what his statement would do, and he timed it perfectly to his banking and Fed exec meet up. Hearn contributed greatly to Bitcoin, but now it is good to see him gone.

Like all things, we work through challenges. The blocksize is one, but this could end up being an opportunity for DNotes to decide on the best technologies and coding before hitting the mainstream. This makes DNotes much more agile than say, Bitcoin - at least in the interim.



TeeGee, we are always delighted to see your post. I agree that it is quite clear that Mike Hearn had a hidden agenda for sometime. I gave the guy the benefits of the doubt, until I have done my research. It is now too obvious that he told his story with ill intent. What he contributed to Bitcoin, he destroyed.

You got it, TeeGee. By strategic choice, we elected not to engage in core development, until the technology has evolved to a level of sufficient certainty, to the extent that the major issues are exposed and potential solutions well thought out. This phase is still on going or unsettled. Additionally, getting ahead of viable market demand is not a wise strategic investment. It is comparable to ramp-up with mass production too early and ended up with huge unsold inventory. Yet this happened all the time causing projects and companies to fail. This is a common problem of our industry.

The current price of DNotes is a buying opportunity for long term investors. Let the free market force take its course. Our focus is to be alert and agile so that we can react quickly and effectively to industry changes. We may not want to go big for a little longer but remained nimble in launching the book with a profitable company as soon as possible. When our industry and the world economy are confronted with elevated uncertainties and risks, it is prudent to hold back a little before taking a big leap forward.



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January 18, 2016, 02:53:53 PM
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Guys,big thanks about this nice crypto game http://playoffchallenge.fantasy.nfl.com/ with big prizes! I hope,you make many giveaway or games,gambling campaigns in the future too:) I am strong DNotes holder and I hope for Dnotes price rising in near future:) We are waiting for 1 Dnote=5000 satoshi again or more:) Thank you! You are great team:)
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I love that mantra - there truly are NO shortcuts. You can get ahead initially for a bit, but take a look around our industry for example, and every company that had some initial success by doing so: Mt Gox (ran obsolete "beta" coding on their page long term), Cryptsy (lack of communication, build quality of exchange was buggy) have gone on to pay the price for their lack of foresight and negligence. Many millions of their users money has been lost. It's really unfortunate and I hope that the funds are recovered!

Interestingly, not too impressed with Mike Hearn. Could be 90% certain he left as a publicity stunt for his latest venture R3, which is the antithesis of Bitcoin, it's enemy - and Hearn was working behind the scenes with them the whole time. Hearn basically switched sides while the war was happening and intentionally caused disruption. As far as my research went a while back, he wanted to be the "benelovent dictator" of bitcoin, having authority to change bitcoin code to what he had developed. He knew exactly what his statement would do, and he timed it perfectly to his banking and Fed exec meet up. Hearn contributed greatly to Bitcoin, but now it is good to see him gone.

Like all things, we work through challenges. The blocksize is one, but this could end up being an opportunity for DNotes to decide on the best technologies and coding before hitting the mainstream. This makes DNotes much more agile than say, Bitcoin - at least in the interim.



TeeGee, we are always delighted to see your post. I agree that it is quite clear that Mike Hearn had a hidden agenda for sometime. I gave the guy the benefits of the doubt, until I have done my research. It is now too obvious that he told his story with ill intent. What he contributed to Bitcoin, he destroyed.

You got it, TeeGee. By strategic choice, we elected not to engage in core development, until the technology has evolved to a level of sufficient certainty, to the extent that the major issues are exposed and potential solutions well thought out. This phase is still on going or unsettled. Additionally, getting ahead of viable market demand is not a wise strategic investment. It is comparable to ramp-up with mass production too early and ended up with huge unsold inventory. Yet this happened all the time causing projects and companies to fail. This is a common problem of our industry.

The current price of DNotes is a buying opportunity for long term investors. Let the free market force take its course. Our focus is to be alert and agile so that we can react quickly and effectively to industry changes. We may not want to go big for a little longer but remained nimble in launching the book with a profitable company as soon as possible. When our industry and the world economy are confronted with elevated uncertainties and risks, it is prudent to hold back a little before taking a big leap forward.

I'm inclined to agree with both of you about Mike Hearn, and very glad that DNotes is built around a long term strategy Smiley
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January 18, 2016, 03:32:34 PM
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Guys,big thanks about this nice crypto game http://playoffchallenge.fantasy.nfl.com/ with big prizes! I hope,you make many giveaway or games,gambling campaigns in the future too:) I am strong DNotes holder and I hope for Dnotes price rising in near future:) We are waiting for 1 Dnote=5000 satoshi again or more:) Thank you! You are great team:)

Good to see you again butragenjo, thank you for the kind words. I'll be interested to hear how it turns out.

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Guys,big thanks about this nice crypto game http://playoffchallenge.fantasy.nfl.com/ with big prizes! I hope,you make many giveaway or games,gambling campaigns in the future too:) I am strong DNotes holder and I hope for Dnotes price rising in near future:) We are waiting for 1 Dnote=5000 satoshi again or more:) Thank you! You are great team:)

I'm glad you're enjoying the NFL Playoff Challenge, and it's always good to see loyal long term DNotes holders!
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I love that mantra - there truly are NO shortcuts. You can get ahead initially for a bit, but take a look around our industry for example, and every company that had some initial success by doing so: Mt Gox (ran obsolete "beta" coding on their page long term), Cryptsy (lack of communication, build quality of exchange was buggy) have gone on to pay the price for their lack of foresight and negligence. Many millions of their users money has been lost. It's really unfortunate and I hope that the funds are recovered!

Interestingly, not too impressed with Mike Hearn. Could be 90% certain he left as a publicity stunt for his latest venture R3, which is the antithesis of Bitcoin, it's enemy - and Hearn was working behind the scenes with them the whole time. Hearn basically switched sides while the war was happening and intentionally caused disruption. As far as my research went a while back, he wanted to be the "benelovent dictator" of bitcoin, having authority to change bitcoin code to what he had developed. He knew exactly what his statement would do, and he timed it perfectly to his banking and Fed exec meet up. Hearn contributed greatly to Bitcoin, but now it is good to see him gone.

Like all things, we work through challenges. The blocksize is one, but this could end up being an opportunity for DNotes to decide on the best technologies and coding before hitting the mainstream. This makes DNotes much more agile than say, Bitcoin - at least in the interim.



If anything, Mike Hearns dramatic ragequit could be the kick in the pants Bitcoin needed to spur adoption of bigger block sizes.

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http://dcebrief.com/imagine-if-skype-calls-were-encrypted-bitphone-creates-encrypted-video-web-calls/

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January 18, 2016, 04:47:35 PM
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Today is Martin Luther King day here in the states. I know many of you are not in the US, but it is an important day for remembering American history, he was an important activist for freedom and equality.

Martin Luther King's famous "I have a dream" speech:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I47Y6VHc3Ms


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Interesting technical article on why Bitcoin will probably eventually be replaced. I'm not sure I agree with his picks for replacements as I know of quite a few next generation coins that he doesn't even mention, but then again, I'm not a cryptographer...

https://tonyarcieri.com/the-death-of-bitcoin
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January 18, 2016, 06:59:39 PM
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Interesting technical article on why Bitcoin will probably eventually be replaced. I'm not sure I agree with his picks for replacements as I know of quite a few next generation coins that he doesn't even mention, but then again, I'm not a cryptographer...

https://tonyarcieri.com/the-death-of-bitcoin

Probably the most important topic, in my opinion, covered in this article is that we don't currently have a means of instant confirmation, which is necessary for consumer needs. On the existing framework, it wouldn't be possible to go buy your coffee without the business owner taking some level of risk. It's not a topic we can elaborate on very deeply, but we do have options for solving these problems. There will be breakthroughs and the DNotes blockchain may be very different from what it looks like today, and as Alan has mentioned there will be many on and off ramps in our payment system.

The key reason we feel DNotes has a chance to become the globally accepted supplemental digital currency we have envisioned is because we are building a framework that allows us and everyone else to have a vested interest in DNotes success.

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Interesting technical article on why Bitcoin will probably eventually be replaced. I'm not sure I agree with his picks for replacements as I know of quite a few next generation coins that he doesn't even mention, but then again, I'm not a cryptographer...

https://tonyarcieri.com/the-death-of-bitcoin

Probably the most important topic, in my opinion, covered in this article is that we don't currently have a means of instant confirmation, which is necessary for consumer needs. On the existing framework, it wouldn't be possible to go buy your coffee without the business owner taking some level of risk. It's not a topic we can elaborate on very deeply, but we do have options for solving these problems. There will be breakthroughs and the DNotes blockchain may be very different from what it looks like today, and as Alan has mentioned there will be many on and off ramps in our payment system.

The key reason we feel DNotes has a chance to become the globally accepted supplemental digital currency we have envisioned is because we are building a framework that allows us and everyone else to have a vested interest in DNotes success.

That's interesting that there are options for modifying the DNotes blockchain in the future to deal with these issues. And I can also see why it would be premature to try to do so now. I guess part of what you all need to do is pay attention to altcoins that do have interesting block chain innovations (especially the ones not getting media attention) and see what you can learn in the mean time.

I wonder if 1 second block interval with ten required confirmations would be technically feasible at this point. If so, it might work. There are probably better options out there in development, though, so no hurry...
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January 18, 2016, 07:35:48 PM
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Interesting technical article on why Bitcoin will probably eventually be replaced. I'm not sure I agree with his picks for replacements as I know of quite a few next generation coins that he doesn't even mention, but then again, I'm not a cryptographer...

https://tonyarcieri.com/the-death-of-bitcoin

Probably the most important topic, in my opinion, covered in this article is that we don't currently have a means of instant confirmation, which is necessary for consumer needs. On the existing framework, it wouldn't be possible to go buy your coffee without the business owner taking some level of risk. It's not a topic we can elaborate on very deeply, but we do have options for solving these problems. There will be breakthroughs and the DNotes blockchain may be very different from what it looks like today, and as Alan has mentioned there will be many on and off ramps in our payment system.

The key reason we feel DNotes has a chance to become the globally accepted supplemental digital currency we have envisioned is because we are building a framework that allows us and everyone else to have a vested interest in DNotes success.

That's interesting that there are options for modifying the DNotes blockchain in the future to deal with these issues. And I can also see why it would be premature to try to do so now. I guess part of what you all need to do is pay attention to altcoins that do have interesting block chain innovations (especially the ones not getting media attention) and see what you can learn in the mean time.

I wonder if 1 second block interval with ten required confirmations would be technically feasible at this point. If so, it might work. There are probably better options out there in development, though, so no hurry...

Absolutely, it has always been our intention that DNotes from a technology standpoint will evolve. It would be to our detriment to act too quickly and jump into the latest innovations, although we do feel there are some great innovations being made in the industry.

Even 10 seconds to confirm a transaction at the register with the customer waiting is far too long. I can't say we have all the answers yet and perfect solutions but we do fundamentally understand the issues and these problems are solvable.


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