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January 04, 2019, 02:43:25 PM
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All of you can deny the existence of God. However you have ZERO evidence that proves the God of the Bible doesn't exist.

And all of you may claim that the existence of your God is real and a fact. And you also have Zero evidence to prove that you GOD really exists in the current time. Cool

Quite the contrary. This thread - Scientific proof that God exists? - shows two major, scientific proof areas that prove God absolutely exists.

The posts in this thread also prove that people are made in ways where they have the choice to accept proof while denying other proof.

Four simple links that show the scientific proof for God are these:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

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January 04, 2019, 06:39:24 PM
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Quite the contrary. This thread - Scientific proof that God exists? - shows two major, scientific proof areas that prove God absolutely exists.

Doesn't claim that God really exist, hence it questions about the evolution made by Darwin's Ideas.

God, based on the history is only a spiritual thing then it came to earth as a human then once again it is said to be a spirit again. The question is, where is that bones? What does God look like? What power does he holds? If someone can tell and prove that, I'll end up believing you. But if its only like a story there can be no change at facts at all.
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January 04, 2019, 08:01:35 PM
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Quite the contrary. This thread - Scientific proof that God exists? - shows two major, scientific proof areas that prove God absolutely exists.

Doesn't claim that God really exist, hence it questions about the evolution made by Darwin's Ideas.

God, based on the history is only a spiritual thing then it came to earth as a human then once again it is said to be a spirit again. The question is, where is that bones? What does God look like? What power does he holds? If someone can tell and prove that, I'll end up believing you. But if its only like a story there can be no change at facts at all.


Some of the posts in Scientific proof that God exists? show the scientific proof that God exists.

More proof is found in the difficult task of scientifically examining the history of the Bible and the nation of Ancient Israel right up to the present.

But the fact that multitudes of people all over the whole world, both in the present and the past, recognize that God exists enough to venerate Him (even though they don't understand Him clearly), is a very important point to consider... that He appears to exist.

Even the idea that God is dead, shows that He exists... or at least existed.

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January 05, 2019, 02:49:05 AM
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Everything in the universe can be gather to the science.as i think religion also one kind of a science.unfortunately when we say science we think only about provable things.no unprovable things also have science.so we can't rejected any things "this can't prove so this is not science".religion also science everything can't prove but humans not ask to prove them,they believe it.it not harmful to anyone.humans believe religion,it not harmful to anyone and make a better world so for what try to prove  everythings?there are no differents in between science and religion.
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January 05, 2019, 04:01:52 PM
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Religion goes way beyond science.

A car mechanic might know all about the precise operation of certain parts of a car... like the engine, transmission, and differential, etc. But he doesn't know about all but a few of the places the owner drives the car.

The owner might take a road trip, and visit many grand sites in his travels. Mechanics along the way might service the car, but if they never become drivers, they will never visit the grand sites that the owner visits.

The owner needs the mechanic, because he doesn't know about the mechanical operation of his car, except in small ways - change a flat tire. But his life is broadened by what he sees out on the road, more than the mechanic's life is, while sitting around in the shop working on cars.

Science is like the mechanic, only dreaming of going places, but never getting there.

Religion is like gaining all kinds of exciting revelations of what is out there, without knowing the nitty-gritty operation of many of them, or even the machine he travels in.

Religion and science work together, like the mechanic and the traveler. But which would you rather be?

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January 05, 2019, 04:50:57 PM
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Religion goes way beyond science.

A car mechanic might know all about the precise operation of certain parts of a car... like the engine, transmission, and differential, etc. But he doesn't know about all but a few of the places the owner drives the car.

The owner might take a road trip, and visit many grand sites in his travels. Mechanics along the way might service the car, but if they never become drivers, they will never visit the grand sites that the owner visits.

The owner needs the mechanic, because he doesn't know about the mechanical operation of his car, except in small ways - change a flat tire. But his life is broadened by what he sees out on the road, more than the mechanic's life is, while sitting around in the shop working on cars.

Science is like the mechanic, only dreaming of going places, but never getting there.

Religion is like gaining all kinds of exciting revelations of what is out there, without knowing the nitty-gritty operation of many of them, or even the machine he travels in.

Religion and science work together, like the mechanic and the traveler. But which would you rather be?

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John Lennox explains the difference between religion and science by using the Ford motor car engine.

Religion answers how the engine got here (Henry Ford's doing)
Science answers how the engine works (internal combustion)

"God no more competes with science as an explanation than Henry Ford competes with the law of internal combustion as an explanation for the motor car engine"  -John Lennox

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January 07, 2019, 02:43:20 PM
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If you took all the religions in the world and destroyed them, in 1000 years there would be entirely new religions, completely different from the old religions...

If you took all the science in the world and destroyed it... in 1000 years there would be EXACTLY THE SAME SCIENCE

Mathematics is not something invented by humans, it is discovered by humans... mathematics is the same in any language, on any planet... 1 + 1 = 2 is a provable concept and does not change based on societal norms or which deities they currently worship

Newton and Leibniz are credited with the co-discovery of calculus... they did not invent it, they both discovered it at the same time... math/science is universal, religion is not

Let me quote that "there is no new DISCOVERY in this world it was already there before hand" . You cant just say if you learn something new you'll say Eureka. Its was already there and was only waiting for man To explore. God has already prepare everything we need since the age of time.

Science and religion are diff. From each other dont say that science nor math is constant and religions are not. Lets just give respect to people with diff races.

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January 09, 2019, 06:28:23 AM
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Religion changes very slowly if at all to the  world around us making it difficult to apply its knowledge to new problems and circumstances.  Science is self-correcting, constantly challenging ideas, throwing out old ones in place of new and better ones.
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January 09, 2019, 01:26:15 PM
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If you took all the science in the world and destroyed it... in 1000 years there would be EXACTLY THE SAME SCIENCE

Science is always changing as we accumulate more knowledge about this world. People from a thousand years ago does not have the same science nor world view we have today. It is possible that in a thousand years we would have even more paradigm shifts.


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January 09, 2019, 06:27:56 PM
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Religion changes very slowly if at all to the  world around us making it difficult to apply its knowledge to new problems and circumstances.  Science is self-correcting, constantly challenging ideas, throwing out old ones in place of new and better ones.

Religion exists to understand the fundamental questions of everything. Science can't even touch these fundamentals.

Science exists to relate things to each other. Science is barely scratching the surface in relating things to each other.

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January 09, 2019, 09:49:53 PM
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Religion changes very slowly if at all to the  world around us making it difficult to apply its knowledge to new problems and circumstances.  Science is self-correcting, constantly challenging ideas, throwing out old ones in place of new and better ones.

Religion exists to understand the fundamental questions of everything. Science can't even touch these fundamentals.

Science exists to relate things to each other. Science is barely scratching the surface in relating things to each other.

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Jesus fucking Christ, get off your religion horse, would you?  You are such a pretentious prick!!!

  • Religion provides answers without evidence.
  • Science provides answers based on evidence.


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January 10, 2019, 02:04:54 AM
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Religion changes very slowly if at all to the  world around us making it difficult to apply its knowledge to new problems and circumstances.  Science is self-correcting, constantly challenging ideas, throwing out old ones in place of new and better ones.

Religion exists to understand the fundamental questions of everything. Science can't even touch these fundamentals.

Science exists to relate things to each other. Science is barely scratching the surface in relating things to each other.

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Jesus fucking Christ, get off your religion horse, would you?  You are such a pretentious prick!!!

  • Religion provides answers without evidence.
  • Science provides answers based on evidence.


My religious horse even goes to church, right?

Can't you even read the topic title? Let me quote it for you: "The difference between science and religion." If we don't talk about our religious horses, how is anybody going to know about them in this thread that talks about them?

Religion provides answers based on evidence, eye witness accounts, and personal experience... just like science. Science must be a religion.

You can't destroy the Christian religion. God won't let it happen.

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January 10, 2019, 01:45:46 PM
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Religion provides answers based on evidence, eye witness accounts, and personal experience... just like science.
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I simply use the words "anecdotal evidence"

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January 10, 2019, 02:13:25 PM
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Religion provides answers based on evidence, eye witness accounts, and personal experience... just like science.
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I simply use the words "anecdotal evidence"

Yes. Doing the thinking to prove via thinking, is very difficult.

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January 10, 2019, 02:30:56 PM
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Religion provides answers based on evidence, eye witness accounts, and personal experience... just like science.
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I simply use the words "anecdotal evidence"

Yes. Doing the thinking to prove via thinking, is very difficult.

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I agree. Would you say anecdotal evidences are extremely powerful convincers to the person who experienced it?

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January 10, 2019, 02:46:49 PM
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Religion provides answers based on evidence, eye witness accounts, and personal experience... just like science.
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I simply use the words "anecdotal evidence"

Yes. Doing the thinking to prove via thinking, is very difficult.

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I agree. Would you say anecdotal evidences are extremely powerful convincers to the person who experienced it?

Only to those who breeze by without doing studious examinations.

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November 29, 2019, 10:15:35 PM
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Christianity for example has lasted more than 2000 years. On what basis then do you say that it won't be around in the next 1000 years?

Egyptian gods were worshiped for a few thousand years. Now gone. Greek gods. Now gone. Old Norse religion. Gone. Semitic religion. Gone. Mesopotamian religion. Gone. Babylonian. Gone. Celtic polytheism. Gone. Etc. Etc. Etc.

The number of extinct religions vastly outnumbers the number of practicing religions. On what basis then do you say that Christianity will still be around in 1000 years, especially since we are proving more and more of Christian doctrine demonstrably false?

We believe in religions based on bibles
We believe in science based on evidence
But there are things that cannot be explain by science, like how this world started, that only bible can tell since all theories about the beginnings has not yet been proven
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November 29, 2019, 11:40:20 PM
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Religion tells us what exists. Science is the often futile method for trying to prove how religion is right.

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Most science build their theorie on reproducible experiment.

Religion based on dogma.
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Science if about observations and facts, religion is about faith.
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